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Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

jtdmkj — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:38:13 -0000

lets boycott brazil. dont travel there, dont support its vacation destinations, maybe if we all get together and are determined we can atleast keep our hard earned money from going to a country that supports kidnappers and wrongdoing. just think if it was your family over there on vacation and something tragic happened, you know for a certainty you could not count on the brazillian government to help you. so take your vacations and family fun far far away from brazil. none of our hard earned cash will support brazil until sean comes home.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

jtdmkj — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:38:13 -0000

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

mariebk — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:31:11 -0000

Bruna&#39s parent&#39s and Joao Paulo Lins e Silva had been brain washe&#39d Sean. How can people here say that Sean need to stay in Brazil where he has a sister, extra curricular activities, grand parents and a man that pretend to break the law and be his father http://www.bringseanhome.org/dateline.html What about Sean biological father nobody cares about him he don&#39t count? He was fighting to have his son back home 2 weeks after his wife call him saying that Sean was not going to return to NJ and since now he is still fighting. His son needs to come back to NJ under a psychiatric supervision to see if he loves his town school friends and also the extra curricular activities he can do. If he have problems and just want to go back to Brazil ok. ANYONE CAN SEPARATE SEAM FROM HIS BIOLOGICAL FATHER AND BORN TOWN. IT&#39S ILEGAL!!!!!!!!!!

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

mariebk — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:32:10 -0000

I&#39M FROM BRAZIL AND "LINS E SILVA" (STEP FATHER) AND "RIBEIRO" GRAND PARENTS ARE THE WORST FAMILYS. FIST OF ALL JOAO PAULO LINS E SILVA JUST WANTO TO STAY WITH SEAN TO STILL THE MONEY HIS MOM&#39S LEFT. DOES ANYBODY BELIVE THAT BRUNA WAS OK THE 9 MO. PREGNANCY AND AFTER HER DOUGHTER BORN SHE DIE HMMMM!!! SOMEBODY KILL BRUNA. SO SEAN FATHER BATTLE CAN END. JOAO PAULO LINS E SILVA E RIBEIRO VOCES NAO PASAM DE VERDADEIROS MONSTRUOS, TENHA VERGONHA NA CARA COMO E QUE VOCE PODE MENTIR ASSIM O QUE SERA QUADO SEU NETO DESCUBRA TODAS ESSAS MENTIRAS SUAS E QUE VC ESCONDEU ELE DO PAI E ATE ORQUESTROU COM O PADRASTRO MUDAR A CERTIDAO DE NACIMENTO SEMVERGONHAS!!!!!

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

mariebk — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:31:11 -0000

Bruna's parent's and Joao Paulo Lins e Silva had been brain washe'd Sean. How can people here say that Sean need to stay in Brazil where he has a sister, extra curricular activities, grand parents and a man that pretend to break the law and be his father http://www.bringseanhome.or... What about Sean biological father nobody cares about him he don't count? He was fighting to have his son back home 2 weeks after his wife call him saying that Sean was not going to return to NJ and since now he is still fighting. His son needs to come back to NJ under a psychiatric supervision to see if he loves his town school friends and also the extra curricular activities he can do. If he have problems and just want to go back to Brazil ok. ANYONE CAN SEPARATE SEAM FROM HIS BIOLOGICAL FATHER AND BORN TOWN. IT'S ILEGAL!!!!!!!!!!

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

mariebk — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:32:10 -0000

I'M FROM BRAZIL AND "LINS E SILVA" (STEP FATHER) AND "RIBEIRO" GRAND PARENTS ARE THE WORST FAMILYS. FIST OF ALL JOAO PAULO LINS E SILVA JUST WANTO TO STAY WITH SEAN TO STILL THE MONEY HIS MOM'S LEFT. DOES ANYBODY BELIVE THAT BRUNA WAS OK THE 9 MO. PREGNANCY AND AFTER HER DOUGHTER BORN SHE DIE HMMMM!!! SOMEBODY KILL BRUNA. SO SEAN FATHER BATTLE CAN END. JOAO PAULO LINS E SILVA E RIBEIRO VOCES NAO PASAM DE VERDADEIROS MONSTRUOS, TENHA VERGONHA NA CARA COMO E QUE VOCE PODE MENTIR ASSIM O QUE SERA QUADO SEU NETO DESCUBRA TODAS ESSAS MENTIRAS SUAS E QUE VC ESCONDEU ELE DO PAI E ATE ORQUESTROU COM O PADRASTRO MUDAR A CERTIDAO DE NACIMENTO SEMVERGONHAS!!!!!

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

yeyyey — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:38:12 -0000

thats easy to say.....hope u feel the same way if it happens to u

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

yeyyey — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:38:12 -0000

thats easy to say.....hope u feel the same way if it happens to u

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Stan__left_behind_parent — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:52:19 -0000

Sherstne, Mcat and marck1 are right. The same thing happened to me 11 years ago. I know it was wrong when it happened, but Sean obviuosly has a new life as does my son, in Canada. The fact is, the US should not be pressuring the Brazilian goverbment, any branch, to return a boy whose life is now in Brazil. They should, and in conversations with me (from State Department sources) have indicated receptiveness to the idea of helping David get settled, even to the point of giving him a job at the consulate closest to where Sean now lives, in Brazil. They have indicated that David only needs to approach them about it.

Ms. Apy, David&#39s attorney would probably rather that didn&#39t happen. Cash cow case gone, media attention gone, loss of this battle. Even at Sean&#39s expense, she would rather see a child abused to give hr a victory. I have tried to cantact David about States&#39 willingness to consider a win-win solution for everyone. If someone knows how, please forward this to David.

Consider also thar Congressman Smith has his own self-promoting agenda. I seriuosly doubt his best interests are the same as Seans.

I spent equally as long as Dvid did and almost as much money trying to go the other route. I moved to, and still have an apartment in Norht Dakota, 3 hours from my son, no work in my field here, cold as Siberia. I now contract in some pretty dangerous places to be able to afford to have half the year off with no income. Not the solution I&#39d envisioned, but I think my son is going to be alright. His life was and is around relatives, people who love him, (including me when I can get up there!) and he does have issues, but workable ones.

Our goverment, if they want to get serious about the poblem of international parental child abduction should concentrate on recent cases, not ones which will involve more trauma to the children by returns, and perhaps make a very clear and public statement to the rest of the world that there will be much more uncomfortable pressures brought to bear on the receiving nation - I mean REALLY uncomfortable!

Stan Hudson

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Stan — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:52:19 -0000

Ms. Apy, David's attorney would probably rather that didn't happen. Cash cow case gone, media attention gone, loss of this battle. Even at Sean's expense, she would rather see a child abused to give hr a victory. I have tried to cantact David about States' willingness to consider a win-win solution for everyone. If someone knows how, please forward this to David.

Consider also thar Congressman Smith has his own self-promoting agenda. I seriuosly doubt his best interests are the same as Seans.

I spent equally as long as Dvid did and almost as much money trying to go the other route. I moved to, and still have an apartment in Norht Dakota, 3 hours from my son, no work in my field here, cold as Siberia. I now contract in some pretty dangerous places to be able to afford to have half the year off with no income. Not the solution I'd envisioned, but I think my son is going to be alright. His life was and is around relatives, people who love him, (including me when I can get up there!) and he does have issues, but workable ones.

Our goverment, if they want to get serious about the poblem of international parental child abduction should concentrate on recent cases, not ones which will involve more trauma to the children by returns, and perhaps make a very clear and public statement to the rest of the world that there will be much more uncomfortable pressures brought to bear on the receiving nation - I mean REALLY uncomfortable!

Stan Hudson

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

jeannemhannah — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:45:44 -0000

CBS News, (Harry Smith), who interviewed Joao Paulo Lins e Silva and Sean&#39s grandmother on The Morning Show last week, needs to do the homework. The CBS interview was deficient in factual basis and full of bias. In my opinion, CBS preferred to sensationalize the case. I know that CBS was given access to legal documents that would have exposed the truth. AND see, for example how CBS now has re-routed this story to its 48 Hours | Mystery | Crimesider page. http://tinyurl.com/lbsopy. Oh, great sensationalism. Sean&#39s case was overshadowed, unfortunately, by the untimely death of Farrah Faucett and the death of Michael Jackson.

Does the move of this news story to the 48 Hours | Mystery | Crimesider page mean that CBS is now claiming that the Sean Goldman kidnapping is a mystery? Does CBS claim that this issue is incomprehensible? Is the "Mystery" supposed to excuse Harry Smith from failing or refusing to read background information that would have helped him to ask the "hard questions" on The Morning Show?

The Sean Goldman case is -- plain and simple -- a case about kidnapping. This time it is not a parental kidnapping. Rather, it is a second kidnapping (wrongful detention) of Sean Goldman in Brazil by his stepfather Joao Paulo Lins e Silva. Still, Brazil shirks its duty to return him immediately, as Judge Pinto ordered on June 1st. Brazil became a Hague Convention signatory on 12/01/2003. Since then over 65 children have been abducted by parents to Brazil and not one has been returned.

Sean&#39s stepfather is himself a Hague Convention lawyer, as is his father. Therefore, every possible defense under the Hague Convention has been raised in the latest proceedings in Brazil. The Brazilian federal court judge, Rafael Pinto, shot all of their defenses down.

Only the extraordinary and competent advocacy of David Goldman&#39s lawyers, Patricia Apy of Red Bank, New Jersey and Ricardo Zamariola Junior could have led Judge Pinto to his insightful and competent decisions. Those decisions swept away any serious consideration of the "defenses" raised by Lins e Silva.

If CBS is too busy to read the 65 page June 1st decision by Judge Pinto and his subsequent June 8th decision describing the parental alienation to which Sean is subjected in Brazil, then I suggest that at the very least they read my summaries. I trust that Patricia Apy will correct me here if I have in any way failed to accurately state what Judge Pinto stated -- both as findings of fact and conclusions of law.
My summaries may be found here: http://tinyurl.com/mjz2c5

Jeanne M. Hannah, Family Lawyer, Traverse City, Michigan

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

jeannemhannah — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:45:44 -0000

CBS News, (Harry Smith), who interviewed Joao Paulo Lins e Silva and Sean's grandmother on The Morning Show last week, needs to do the homework. The CBS interview was deficient in factual basis and full of bias. In my opinion, CBS preferred to sensationalize the case. I know that CBS was given access to legal documents that would have exposed the truth. AND see, for example how CBS now has re-routed this story to its 48 Hours | Mystery | Crimesider page. http://tinyurl.com/lbsopy. Oh, great sensationalism. Sean's case was overshadowed, unfortunately, by the untimely death of Farrah Faucett and the death of Michael Jackson.

Does the move of this news story to the 48 Hours | Mystery | Crimesider page mean that CBS is now claiming that the Sean Goldman kidnapping is a mystery? Does CBS claim that this issue is incomprehensible? Is the "Mystery" supposed to excuse Harry Smith from failing or refusing to read background information that would have helped him to ask the "hard questions" on The Morning Show?

The Sean Goldman case is -- plain and simple -- a case about kidnapping. This time it is not a parental kidnapping. Rather, it is a second kidnapping (wrongful detention) of Sean Goldman in Brazil by his stepfather Joao Paulo Lins e Silva. Still, Brazil shirks its duty to return him immediately, as Judge Pinto ordered on June 1st. Brazil became a Hague Convention signatory on 12/01/2003. Since then over 65 children have been abducted by parents to Brazil and not one has been returned.

Sean's stepfather is himself a Hague Convention lawyer, as is his father. Therefore, every possible defense under the Hague Convention has been raised in the latest proceedings in Brazil. The Brazilian federal court judge, Rafael Pinto, shot all of their defenses down.

Only the extraordinary and competent advocacy of David Goldman's lawyers, Patricia Apy of Red Bank, New Jersey and Ricardo Zamariola Junior could have led Judge Pinto to his insightful and competent decisions. Those decisions swept away any serious consideration of the "defenses" raised by Lins e Silva.

If CBS is too busy to read the 65 page June 1st decision by Judge Pinto and his subsequent June 8th decision describing the parental alienation to which Sean is subjected in Brazil, then I suggest that at the very least they read my summaries. I trust that Patricia Apy will correct me here if I have in any way failed to accurately state what Judge Pinto stated -- both as findings of fact and conclusions of law.
My summaries may be found here: http://tinyurl.com/mjz2c5

Jeanne M. Hannah, Family Lawyer, Traverse City, Michigan

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Marck1 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:29:20 -0000

Thank you Sherstone for the link. I hope it works out for Sean and all the people who love him. I saw the Brazilian relatives -- grandmother and step-father on CBS recently. Here is the link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5105638n

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Marck1 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:29:20 -0000

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Sherstone — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:44:09 -0000

Yes Marck1 - I believe that this is what the latest Court ruling is putting in place! Sean will have the security of being in a familiar setting and still have contact with the only people he knows while he gets a chance to re-bond with his father.

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Marck1 — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:12:15 -0000

Sir/ madam:

I think you did not understand my point. David has rights and this undeniable! My concern is the same concern that a psychologist has recently expressed to the media. Drastically changing the child away from his environment - sister, grand-parents, extended family, school, friends, etc can be devastating. He has lived in this environment for the past 5 years and has recently lost his mother. He has strong emotional ties to his grandmother. If I were David??? First.... I would try to slowly build a relationship with him down in Brazil.
I would want my child to be happy! The welfare of my child would be my first priority, But, this is just my humble opinion.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Sherstone — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:44:09 -0000

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Marck1 — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:12:15 -0000

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

dildo — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:18:03 -0000

you dont condone what his mother did???? if kidnapping is ok, then you must be fan rape too, right???good job stupid.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

dildo — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:18:03 -0000

you dont condone what his mother did???? if kidnapping is ok, then you must be fan rape too, right???good job stupid.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

iamoverworked — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:52:54 -0000

It about both the child and his "fathers" rights. To say it&#39s just whats best for the child would mean that if you had poor but loving parents that they should give their child up at birth to well to due and loving parents by court order. The child will still have loving parents and better schools, medical care, etc. A parent not only takes resposibility when having a child but also rights to decide as their parents whats best for that child. Do any Marck1 want a court telling you how to raise your child because they think they know a better way to do it for your childs sake. A year is to long to wait. The adjusting to his father should have started shortly after his mother died. If it had for the sake fo the child like you say the he would know his father already. This step father and the courts don&#39t care about whats best for the child or they would have started a returning process a long time ago. Its about power and wealth being used to control the court and claim its for the child.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

iamoverworked — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:52:54 -0000

It about both the child and his "fathers" rights. To say it's just whats best for the child would mean that if you had poor but loving parents that they should give their child up at birth to well to due and loving parents by court order. The child will still have loving parents and better schools, medical care, etc. A parent not only takes resposibility when having a child but also rights to decide as their parents whats best for that child. Do any Marck1 want a court telling you how to raise your child because they think they know a better way to do it for your childs sake. A year is to long to wait. The adjusting to his father should have started shortly after his mother died. If it had for the sake fo the child like you say the he would know his father already. This step father and the courts don't care about whats best for the child or they would have started a returning process a long time ago. Its about power and wealth being used to control the court and claim its for the child.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Marck1 — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:37:22 -0000

I agree with you totally! Bruna is the person that acted illegaly here. However, David is living in 2004. Shoud people just erase the last 5 years in the boys life. David is saying the boy has been "brain wahsed". I am sure the boy loves his sister, grand-parents, school friends etc. He learned how to read and write in Brazil. He just lost his mother a year ago. He has strong emotional ties to his family and friends in Brazil and no / few emotional ties to New Jersey or his father. Is touching seeing David&#39s pictures with baby Sean plastered all over CNN everyday. However, I wonder if they think about the emotional damage that Sean my incurr if he is forced to return. Unfortunately, is 5 years later. Now, this case should be about the best interest of the child not about David Goldman.

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

D. E.Rodriguez — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:13:51 -0000

Sherstone:

Thank you for your reasoned and well-informed comments.

If in fact, it is the intention of the Brazilian judge to do just that--to put Sean&#39s well-being first, by allowing time for father-son to re-establish a bond and trust-- then I have to, perhaps reluctantly, agree.

I hope you are right.

I hope that it will not turn out to be as, another reader (linsesilvaidiots) put it:

"This case will go on and on. From the Tribunal Regional Federal in Rio, it will go to the Superior Tribunal de Justica in Brasilia and then on to the Supremo Tribunal Federal. Each of those stops could take months or even years."

All we can do is hope and wait, albeit some more continuing political, legal, and popular pressure on the Brazilian government and Courts is also in order.

Dorian

Re: A “Ruling” in the Sean Goldman Brazil Custody Case

Marck1 — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:37:22 -0000

I agree with you totally! Bruna is the person that acted illegaly here. However, David is living in 2004. Shoud people just erase the last 5 years in the boys life. David is saying the boy has been "brain wahsed". I am sure the boy loves his sister, grand-parents, school friends etc. He learned how to read and write in Brazil. He just lost his mother a year ago. He has strong emotional ties to his family and friends in Brazil and no / few emotional ties to New Jersey or his father. Is touching seeing David's pictures with baby Sean plastered all over CNN everyday. However, I wonder if they think about the emotional damage that Sean my incurr if he is forced to return. Unfortunately, is 5 years later. Now, this case should be about the best interest of the child not about David Goldman.