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Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

StockBoySF — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:39:05 -0000

Hillary is secretive just like Bush (W) because she doesn't want the voters to know the real Hillary. It doesn't take a genius to realize that if something culd help Hillary, she would use it, including her letters. Since the letters could only hurt her, she resisted releasing them, until forced to with a lawsuit. The letters reveal just what we thought (not to sound like a repeat of slamfu but I do want to make my point).

As far as Hillary trying to change the focus from her to Obama... Well, Obama directly confronted his criticism this week with his "race speech" and a lot of talking heads said that Obama went beyond (though a few- very few- said he didn't go enough). Hillary, on the other hand is trying to change the focus away from her. Personally I'd like a president who will directly confront issues, rather than try to change the conversation (or mislead us into believing a load of crap).

Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

DLS — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:30:44 -0000

"they didn't show any leadership, just repeated what we've heard a million times"

Some, indeed, act as if it's still the 1950s until in some places, well into the 1970s and nobody dares to be an apostate and question the Gospel of Government; it is as if they are arrested in time, like some of the truly falling-apart places in the eastern USA that merit the term Cyanide Nation rather than only Blue Nation -- there is death all over the place. The first and only thing anyone there that is in the government (state, county, municipal fiefdoms) does is a) assume they know better than everyone else what is to be done; and b) raise taxes.

Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

DLS — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:05:50 -0000

"They get confused by pollsters or something and then just react slowly to whatever the GOP does and they are always a bit behind at the end of the day."

As they did in the 1990s after the 1994 elections. Can anybody who is awake and has an IQ above room temperature be fooled by the following?

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ka...

(I suspect Bayh is still a major contender to be Clinton's VP selection this year if she wants an insider with Experience...)

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci...

Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

Slamfu — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:13:21 -0000

The democrats just don't know how to win voters. They get confused by pollsters or something and then just react slowly to whatever the GOP does and they are always a bit behind at the end of the day.

Assumption 2000: Al Gore is the veep of a very popular president done with his 2 terms. Therefore, he's a shoe in, all we have to do is what the polls tell us and don't stray outside the lines.

Assumption 2004: Bush is wildly unpopular for a war that the wheels have come off of, and the economy isn't working for middle americans, and its been pretty obvious he's using his clout to hide back room deals and undermine limits on his authority. The people won't stand for that, lets run a guy who actually fought in a war where he got shot at to head off at the pass that he's militarily unfit for office. Again, please follow what the pollsters say and don't stray outside the lines and we can't lose.

Anyways, each campaign they fought defensively and got worn down because they didn't show any leadership, just repeated what we've heard a million times. Thats not going to cut it with the middle and left, even if it does work wonders on the right. Obama is going to kick Clinton's ass because he knows this and she doesn't. Clinton is following the exact same playbook thats lost for the dems in 2000 and 2004. Another reason I voted the way I have.

Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

DLS — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:52:26 -0000

"... going head to head with Obama's campaign like this since they've lost ground every time they've tried [...] typical of Democratic campaign staff since Al Gore"

The Clinton team seems to have made quite a few mistakes. Maybe they stayed stuck too long with the assumption or presumption that Clinton was obviously going to be the nominee. It is similar to Gore in that Bush didn't win in 2000 (he was a desperation insider-clique "brand name" candidate run by the GOP) but rather Gore managed to lose it, beginning at the debates. (Losing the debates to...uhhh, uhhh, D-Dubya...was what got the public to realize Bush had a chance to prevail after all, which he eventually did.)

Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

DLS — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:49:00 -0000

Actually, she is more qualified than Schriver, and would be farther left if unmasked.

"I want Penny-Kasich dead in three days" was not her husband's decision or words.

Re: ABC News: Clinton Documents Don’t Show Great Experience

Slamfu — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:35:00 -0000

Surprise surprise. It sounds like she was exactly what we thought she was those 8 years. A first lady. Not a diplomat, not a decision maker, a first lady. No more qualified by that experience to be POTUS than Maria Schriver is to be governor of CA.

Maybe if her staff hadn't made such a big deal out of it I'd consider this not so important, but shows the flaws her campaign has been running the whole time. And now they demand a document from Obama they hope will show something similarly damaging. You would have thought they'd learn by now not to try going head to head with Obama's campaign like this since they've lost ground every time they've tried. Slow learners and yet typical of Democratic campaign staff since Al Gore was running for the same job.