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Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Neocon — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:18:01 -0000

Ricorun

Moving slowly towards change is much better then rushing headlong into change that is WRONG.

Most everyone assumes that the GOP is going to get its clock cleaned come november. Most of us are terrified at having a bumbling Barak Obama in power unchecked with a cloture proof senate and unsurpassed power in a time when he is openly advocating the escalation of hostilities in Afghanistan with the possibility of going into Pakistan and a democratic party standing behind him going

Yippeeee Kai yeah................lets rock.

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Ricorun — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:48:09 -0000

Kristol's column is out. He says nary a word about Obama's trip except to mention how presumptuous an editorial in a German newspaper was.

His piece was a veritable psychological smorgasbord. He wanders from being afraid, to disappointed, to cheery, to morose. He's a sensitive one that Bill.

But his main point was that one should vote for McCain so as to ensure a divided government. There were two things I found interesting in that. First, for him to make such a plea one has to assume he's conceding that the GOP is going to get its clock cleaned in the House and Senate. Second, it seems to me he would be hard-pressed to come up with a worse example to back up his plea, because it argues for exactly the opposite. In the 1948 elections the people rejected a divided government. They didn't vote a divided government in, they voted a dead-locked and ineffective one out.

He must have missed that detail.

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

JSpencer — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:39:59 -0000

With regard to whether or not Obama "will meet Kristol’s “exigent” (i.e. partisan) criteria", I expect results to be grudging at best. Had the situation been reversed, and an R candidate was being received this well in Europe, we all know the event would be trumpeted and held up as a second coming by those who are now criticizing Obama. It's pretty amusing really.

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Neocon — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:26:01 -0000

Well I think your misleading yourself. Mr. Obama seems to want to escalate Afghanistan. So it sounds like there is s still a lot of blood left to shed in Mr. Obama's eyes. He just wants his turn at the helm as he screams Yipppeee Kai Yeah.........and leads us off to more death and destruction in Afghanistan.

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

AustinRoth — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:45:29 -0000

Ante up.

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Dorian — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:26:56 -0000

One does not have to walk in the streets to call the adminstration "names" it so rightly deserve...and no additional blood needs to be shed. Just little electronic or physical marks at the ballot "boxes"

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Neocon — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:53:17 -0000

Thats cause Im not a neocon. Im a democrat turned libertarian who is antiwar but does not march in the streets or call the current administration names. I just believe that enough blood has been shed over 911.

How many more have to die before we have exacted our reckoning?

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Dorian — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:22:14 -0000

Wow, that doesn't sound "neocon" at all.

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Neocon — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:56:39 -0000

I personally believe that no one should anti up and that we should all come home. I do not see a need to escalate in Afghanistan like Barak Obama wants to do

OBL should be a police Action and if people over there really want freedom, democracy and a non taliban type government then let them fight for it themselves..

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Dorian — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:53:30 -0000

Between Bush, McCain and Obama, who do you think may have better success in convincing the Germans (and the Euorpeans) to "anti-up"?

Re: Bill Kristol—In Anticipation

Neocon — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:46:46 -0000

I read a post from a German paper today in which the author indicated that yes Obama will be well received in Berlin but that when it comes to asking the Germans to anti up they will politely say not only no but "HELL NO"

In the end Germans will still be Germans with their own best interests at heart and Americans will still be Americans. The likely outcome seems to be that the left in America wants to concede things to Germany in the name of friendship.

Like what? Anti Up Germany? Barak Obama in his speech asked the Germans to step up and anti up on the war on terror and more specifically on the war in Afghanistan and the crowd was stone cold silent.

In the end Barak Obama will piss of the Germans just like Bush did because in the end Barak Obama has or should have the best interests of America at heart and those interests might or might not have the best interests of Germany at heart.

The problem is that the Obama supporters unrealistically believe they are one in the same and they are not. Germany wants nothing to do with the war on terror or Afghanistan and despite honoring their nato obligations they have made their intentions clear to a fault.