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Re: Blogger Reaction to Obama’s Support of the FISA ‘Compromise’

BBQ — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:45:38 -0000

Do you ever have any criticisms of Obama or are you just a common lapdog for him? People can still support him and be upset and criticism him. It's not an either or proposition. Even during an election.

Re: Blogger Reaction to Obama’s Support of the FISA ‘Compromise’

runasim — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:02:50 -0000

I'm increasingly puzzled by Left-leaning bloggers.::

If theyare truly upset with the FISA bill, as they claim, why is all the anger aimed at Obama and only Obama?

He didn't pass the bill by himself. Didn't McCain and other members of the GOP play any role in this at all? How did Hillary vote, btw (I haven't looked it up) ?

Beginning with Hillary women and spreading through blogs from the Left, it is peculiar that more energy is spent attacking their own than on criticizing political opponents.

I wouldn't want abject partiality, but I did expect equal treatment, at least.
Instead, this is reverse partiality.
I fail to see any logic here, at all.

Re: Blogger Reaction to Obama’s Support of the FISA ‘Compromise’

runasim — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:08:46 -0000

Ted Zee Man,

Your great strategy :
1, Go on attacking Obama
2. Make sure McCain is elected
3. Wait for McCain to change the FISA bill

If things don't work out, you can always blame someone else, not only for FISA, but for everything else that will be ushered in with a McCain presidency.
I'm sure the civil liberties you cherish will flourish when McCain makes the SC even more conservative than it is.
Nice to see you're thinking so far ahead.

PS With Constitutional rights also come responsibilities for consequences,

Re: Blogger Reaction to Obama’s Support of the FISA ‘Compromise’

Ted_Zee_Man — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:00:39 -0000

I consider myself to be a Moderate Democrat and here is my Opinion. I think that I have the Constitutional right to express my beliefs. I will not vote for support anyone who votes in favor of the new FISA LAW, and my reasons are based in the Constitution.

1. The right given to me in the Bill of Rights to the Freedom of Speech.

2. The right given to me in the Bill of Rights of Privacy.

3. The Constitution forbades Congress from passing any law that would remove those rights or modify them.

Re: Blogger Reaction to Obama’s Support of the FISA ‘Compromise’

runasim — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:18:11 -0000

What 'progresives' should recognize is that they don't own the Democratic party.
They choose to vote under the Democrats' umbrella, but so do other groups, caucases and individuals.
If they had their way 100% of the time, they would drive those others out, all the way out of the Dem party. I'm beginning to suspect that's the only way some people will learn the meaning of 'consequnces' and 'responsibility'.

Expresing goals, ideals and opinions is one thing. To indulge in paroxyms of blame and rage is another.
Just like the excesses of the Hillary women has created a backlash, the ;progressives; are in danger of doing the same. Are they so serioudly deluded that they believe castigating Obama during this sensitive and precarious period of the campaign is a realistic way to get him to change his mind or to change FISA legisaltion? This is myopia bordering on blindness.

Here's a suggestion: Okay, you''ve expressed your opinion. Nothing more you say now has a chance in hell of bringing about a reversal on FISA.
Thinking rationally, what is the best plan for adjusting FISA to suit you better?
a) with Obama as president, or b) with McCain as president

How about doing a little step-by-step strategizing? Is that really too much for 'progressives' to digest and undertake?
Choose your priorites on a time line, now vs. a more opportune time, say, after Obama is Presdident.