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Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

kritt11 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:53:16 -0000

McCain has sold his soul to the conservative bigwigs in the GOP- lock stock and barrel. If there was ever any doubt, his meetings with Jerry Falwell (shortly before his death) and choice of Palin over the much more moderate Lieberman confirms it.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

kritt11 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:51:03 -0000

Bush said he was eager to work with Democrats too, when their party took over both houses of Congress in '06.

Unfortunately, that sentiment turned out to be largely a smokescreen--- because he vetoed almost every bill they sent him, and was quick to lacerate them publicly in the press when things did not go 100% his way.

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Rambie — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:23:14 -0000

Yes, and for all the "rebelling" McCain did, the far-right NEVER trusted McCain (I doubt they do now) and swiftboated McCain in 2000 so Bush Jr could win the nomination and the Presidancy.

They're going to let McCain talk about "change" all they want to get votes but they won't let him do anything they don't want him to.

It's already been shown, she only took on the party when it was politically convenient for her to do so. Well good for her, but that's not truly "going up against your own party" as much as it's cheeking which way the smoke is blowing.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

jdledell — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:57:17 -0000

Leonidas - Can you tell me specifically what policies of the present Bush Administration they are going to change? Taxes, Iraq and foreign policy seem pretty much the same. Is McCain going to reintorduce his immigration bill that he and Bush sponsored? Is he going to drill in ANWAR as Palin wants and Bush wants? Give me some guidelines here. Thanks.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

Leonidas — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:28:12 -0000

McCain and Palin have both taken on theior own party and won. Things Like McCain-Feingold, the Gang of 14, McCain-Kennedy,, what kind of bi-partisan reform have Obama or Biden engaged in sucessfully or where have they cahallenged their own party like McCain and Palin have?

All I've seen is more of the same from the Democratic ticket over their careers. Ask Obama's constituents from Grove parc.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

Ricorun — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:05:14 -0000

By the way, jwest, Barack's name is spelled B-A-R-A-C-K, not "Barak". I don't want to portray myself as some sort of spelling Nazi, but it's hard to believe that at this point in time you haven't learned better.

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elrod — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:46:30 -0000

Actually, I don't know what Palin wants to do. She hasn't said anything. She's a completely vapid vessel with no opinions on anything of national or international interest.

The Alaska example is so unlike the nation as a whole. What does she want to shake up in Washington? How? What is her agenda, and is it identical to McCain's?

Oh yeah, she's running into hiding because she's "not ready" to answer questions.

What a joke.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

Ricorun — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:45:14 -0000

jwest: Not as disappointed as you’re going to be on election day.

Perhaps so. But if that happens I hope it's because McCain reestablishes his credentials as a maverick. In which case I will fervently pray McCain stays healthy.

McCain saw that Barak’s idea of being the “change” candidate was working – so he stole it.

What a guy. But what did we expect from someone devoid of his own ideas?

With Palin and his previous maverick image, he’s now the “change” agent for the country.

I quess the emphasis should be on "previous". At any rate, the country deserves what they get -- either way. That's the whole point of democratic elections.

Barak had better pick a new theme quick, because the Change Train has left the station.

Everything considered, I doubt that imperative. As far as I can tell the only change McCain is offering is... lipstick. And that's only in a God forbid scenario. They already had the pit bull part down. Thus so far, by and large, lipstick really is the only certain and demonstrable difference between the current Bush administration and a putative McCain administration.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

elrod — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:44:32 -0000

jwest,
Problem is, what does change mean for McCain? He never defined it. He just uttered a bunch of BS about partisan rancor and gave no examples of how he'd change things. Every policy measure he offered was GOP boilerplate from the Bush platform.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

jwest — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:10:29 -0000

Not as disappointed as you’re going to be on election day.

McCain saw that Barak’s idea of being the “change” candidate was working – so he stole it. With Palin and his previous maverick image, he’s now the “change” agent for the country.

Barak had better pick a new theme quick, because the Change Train has left the station.

Re: Change Agents? Mavericks? I don’t See It.

Ricorun — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:01:03 -0000

Percolating down what Mr. Silverstein said even further, my overall impression of the RNC convention is this: schizophrenia. Schizophrenic in terms of symbols, schizophrenic in terms of message, schizophrenic in terms of personalities. I am deeply disappointed.