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Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

StockBoySF — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:23:16 -0000

I guess NH taught us all that polls can sometimes be wrong. But when various polls from different organizations conducted over several months all draw more or less the same conclusion, then they point to something.

I can't divine which Dem. candidate the Republican leaders want to see nominated. I don't think they are manipulating the media (at this point anyway) with that information. For God's sake they can't even agree on their own effing candidate. Get real. But I do think that generally (and not part of some conspiracy) they would like to see Hillary simply because they've spent the last couple of decades honing the partisan tone in DC with her and know how to handle her.

I remember during the 2004 election everyone was trying to decide who bin Laden wanted to see as President. There was one "quote" that bin Laden wanted to Bush to continue, and there was another "quote" that bin Laden wanted to Kerry. Of course Bush used both as evidence that bin Laden wanted Kerry because he would be softer on terrorists than Bush. It would have been funny if it weren't so serious.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:29:55 -0000

"Two far left Liberals beating each others brains out over a few innuendos."

While I believe that you are overreacting elsewhere, the real howler of course is that either of these people are "moderate" [sic]. Kind of like this Web site.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:27:43 -0000

"it seems we are actually yielding to the Rep Spin Machine as to who we should chose to face them. I can't believe we actually falling for this ruse. All this talk, I see in the media about her being too divisive, is all part of their plan, because they know she is the stronger candidate"

She is the strongest and I still bet she will win the nomination and the Presidency. However, she is the most divisive, has been far more repellent to normal people than Democratic partisan people or the truly degenerate on the Left have reacted to Bush (similar to Reagan, but worse).

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

elrod — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:26:32 -0000

Can we please have another primary so we can stop all this annoying sniping about who led the civil rights movement? It almost makes arguments over Clinton's tears seem quaint.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:25:59 -0000

"That picture of her scares the hell out of me."

Chess game, her opponent has been given a) polonium-210p; b) a similar alpha-emitter; c) thallium; d) ricin; or there are bombers or snipers ready to punish her opponent if he or she wins the game or match

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

Jakey — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:41:56 -0000

I want to share my own percerptions.
I hate to sound like a Clinton apologist but the facts about Barrack Obama's stance on the war are there to be verified as Tim Rustert also rightly conceded. Obama had staked his campaign on the fact that he was against the Iraq War from the get go. Is that not fair for your oppponent to question your record on war when the facts don't back the premise of your stance on the war? You know whoever is chosen to face the GOP will have to face these hard questions.
DLS with all respect, it seems we are actually yielding to the Rep Spin Machine as to who we should chose to face them. I can't believe we actually falling for this ruse. All this talk, I see in the media about her being too divisive, is all part of their plan, because they know she is the stronger candidate.
Did GW so much as care for a second about the Dems thought, when the Reps wanted to push their agenda during the last seven years? So we now need approval from the Reps about who we should pick to face them. Amazing! New Hampshire has taught us not to give in anyway serious weight to polls, so I am certainly not going to fall for any poll about her being too divisive.
I have a lot of respect for Barrack Obama and everybody is free to support the candidate of their choice. I do feel however, that he has not been really scrutinized by the media. I know he will be defiintely be the subject of intense scrutiny by the Reps if he is chosen. If Hilary Clinton is going to be scrutinized so seriously as is case now, Barrack should also be too. No matter who you support "What is good for the goose is also good for the gander".

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

Somebody — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:15:05 -0000

Amazing that the progressives who have called Bush every name in the book from Nazi, Fascist, Oberfuhrer, scum sucking, Chimperor, American Taliban are now splitting hairs and screaming bloody murder because Clinton only vaguely suggested something.

I am howling over here. Literally. I mean this is the greatest show on earth. Two far left Liberals beating each others brains out over a few innuendos. And of course the indignation. However this is only the beginning.

This is the sad practice that the progressives pulled on Bush and the conservatives that worked miracles that they are now pulling on Clinton. Within a month Clinton will be a Nazi, Neofascist commie scum as she tries to defend herself against the attack dogs of the progressive movement.

Obama will stay above the fray. Why not he has millions of minions to scream insults for him.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

Guy_Honda — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:29:00 -0000

That picture of her scares the hell out of me.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

cosmoetica — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:12:09 -0000

DLS: I agree with Stockboy re: the title.

Stockboy: Exactly, that's why the Chillster must be staked.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

StockBoySF — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:48:52 -0000

Great posting- these are the political skills Clinton picked up and honed (along with her Republican adversaries) over the last several decades. if you want more of the same finesse in the next President and the same Dem. v. Republican (us versus them) dynamic for the next few years, then by all means vote for Hillary but don't complain when Hillary and the Republicans go head to head while the real issues languish in some Florida swamp.

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

StockBoySF — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:34:28 -0000

DLS: on the book title: LMAO! That's great! Thanks!

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:41:47 -0000

Once she's in the White House, she can do a book deal.

"Hillary Clinton: An Appreciation," by Hillary Clinton

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:55:52 -0000

Clinton, in predominantly black church in SC:

"... I am so proud of Sen. Barack Obama..."

http://politicalticker.blog...

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

cosmoetica — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:29:23 -0000

Jeremy: Can you agree that Hillary is by definition, a hack?

Re: Clintonian Tactics on Display

DLS — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:09:18 -0000

Clinton already presented her $70 billion "stimulus" (gummint-handout vote-buying) plan, and Obama has responded with a $75 billion plan. (Why offer less rather than more? This is offering candy or free lunches to children of all ages, you understand.)

Clinton plan:

http://www.bloomberg.com/ap...

Obama plan:

http://www.bloomberg.com/ap...