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I wonder sometimes, if some sites write their own comments to create a faux controversy, perhaps
but, then too, just a few months ago I wrote at TMV about being in a coffee shop and men at another table were expressing their dislike for 'that nigger,' Michelle Obama.
"IT' lives in some people. All the more reason to have discussions about how whether we ought pay much attention to blogsites that allow such..... that tells us again for the 5 zillionth time what we already know, that some have a desire to demean... it really doesnt matter which side or who.
To me, the issue is not one of this site, but how shall we spend our time? Can something be learned from this, something useful, something we havent known that is very valuable to our peace and health and insight. Or is it another coyote painting itself red with sparklers bursting in order to garner attention for not 15 minutes of fame, but rather hours and days of opprobrium
There's an old saying that if a child cannot get positive attention, they'll go out of their way to get negative attention.
Regarding David Letterman, you know I wrote a piece stating my view. I hold to it. Those who wanted to defend his attacks on a girl who had done nothing to him, and to go so low with the demeaning, violates every rule of political comedy, which is go for the highest critters, not the powerless. David Letterman is in danger of losing nothing for his having stepped over the line. Contrast that with the man who is called 'the little commedian of Burma" who has been imprisoned for making fun of the dictator Than Shwe. In terms of bravery and honor, I'd say the little commedian from Burma wins over Letterman as 'ought to be allowed to speak freely,' any day. The commedian of Burma truly suffers in prison. David Letterman didnt and doesnt.
The two Obama children, the two daughters of Bush, the two daughters of Palin, the daughter of Carter, the daughter of Clintons, it strikes me, that when Herbert Walker was in power, not much was said about the 'sons.' Albeit, Trig Palin, the cruelty aimed toward him is truly an atrocity. But not much about sons including Reagan's son, not much about the Bush sons at all until they ran for office. But, they were grown up sons then, no longer young children, no longer testing the family, no longer infants in arms.
Like I said, my two cents worth... Austin hit it: Stay out of the pot and kettle business, re those who are children or unable.
dr.e
110% correct. Palin's daughter Bristol is 14 years old. Obama's daughter Malia is 11 years old. What the heck does attacking either of them prove? It only proves that the attackers are classless, nasty, and scum (whether Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative). 'Nuff said.
Thanks for confirming my opinion of Limbaugh.
16 Candles for Chelsea
It is disheartening to read these types of things regardless of political leanings, to know that there are people out there, probably walking around on the same streets as the rest of us, riding the buses, shopping for groceries and these people have so much hate for the people around them because? what? politics? skin color? religion? what is it?
It's like poison, just reading about it makes me feel ill.
What is the antidote? For me it's a walk in the woods past the fields of horses and highland cattle I'll feel mostly better, I'll put it out of my mind but what about the people that have so much hate?
I found this site because of Dr Estes and for a long time I only read her posts. I should go back to that.
I'll change my name to head-in-the-sand. No newspapers, no reading of 'comments', no TV...
:/
I think that's an accurate statement, unfortunately.
Just as a reminder Obama, to his credit, told people to back off Palin's family during the election.
The people who are attacking Obama's family are actually making Obama look better. Obama has taken the right moral path and those who actually care about morals (and not those who merely claim they care about morals) see this.
it's a shame the dkos poster would muddy the waters w/subtrifuge, but one provacateur (if indeed, that's what happened) is not repsonsible for the deluge of hatred at that site.
To Paraphrase John Stuart Mill:
Republicans are not necessarily racist, but most racist people are republicans.
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. John Stuart Mill
WTF? Was that necessary? Especially in light of the recent kerfuffle in Philly, in which a white-only, private, and VERY Democratic-dominated club refused to honor (until today, due to pressure) their contractual obligation to an inner-city black group of kids for swim time?
Racism is not the exclusive province of either party, or race, or education level - each has their own practitioners, and we could have a LONG side argument about Liberal racism vs. Conservative racism, soft vs. hard racism, etc. But that is not what this thread is about.
It is about the sudden lurch in politics towards attacking the YOUNG children of politicians. And that is just indefensible.
Still simple.
I've read the "big bombshell" on FR about Perry and dailykos, and really, it is kinda pathetic. If that is what they consider a game-changer, then the Republican party is truly out in the wilderness.
Either way, you just diminish yourself when you engage in attacks like the ones on Palin's and Obama's children. Wow, you can hurl filth at kids! Gold star for you. Whatever.
Not so with the Free Republic. Their Dear Leader is Jim Robinson (affectionately known as RimJob in some circles), who condones racism on his site and allows the filth to stay, unedited and unmoderated. Racism runs through the core of the FR as much as it does through places like Stormfront.
Apparently, the author of this Vancouver Sun article is Chris Parry, who is otherwise known as Daily Kos author “HollywoodOz”. The facts are just surfacing, but “HollywoodOz” has previous articles advocating that democrats use sockpuppet commenters to leave racist comments on right wing websites.
Just to appeal to the common sense of most readers here, don’t you believe even the most primitive knuckledragger on the conservative side would realize how a comment like that would look and be used by the left? Don’t you think this would be all too convenient for not one, but a number of commenters on a popular right wing site to attack the children of a black President in this fashion?
Do yourselves a favor and hold off on the outrage until the whole story comes out.
Regardless, AustinRoth said it best in the very first comment on this thread. It really is that simple.
It's easy for anyone, including sockpuppets to make a simple racist comment. It's not as easy to express rage and hatred unless you really feel it, as many comments on the site do.
I do however think columnists and editors do have a responsibility to step in when comments cross the line into hate. With our "freedom of speech" comes responsibility. It is not censorship, because we all recognize "hate speak" when we see it.
That's a very deplomatic discription, Joe! Imho "the right wing extremist website/blog Free Republic, highly popular among lowlifes" would be more to the point.
Let us know when you've removed your nose from Obama's backside.
Truth and common sense doesn’t matter much here.
Even those who “get it” and realize this was a Democrat instigated incident are so brainwashed that they believe the fake comments are what Republicans really think but refrain from putting it in print.
These are the same geniuses who point to “republican” callers on C-SPAN who start out saying they’ve been a conservative their whole lives, but now they see the brilliance of Nancy Pelosi’s policies.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/cros...
It’s a tribute to our political system when the change of power from one party to the other is handled with dignity.
“Some youngsters ran into Mr Fava’s store to taunt him. “They was pulling down their pants, shouting, ’Kiss my black ass, because we got a black mayor’, swinging their things around and throwing stuff,” said Jennifer Green, 31, a black mother of 10.”
It’s OK, because Mr. Fava, the previous mayor, was a republican – so of course he deserves any treatment he gets. You’ll notice that this is a Telegraph story out of the UK. It would be racist for an American paper to write something like this.
So are Democrats.
So are you.
God help us.
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