DISQUS

The Moderate Voice: Details Emerging About Accused Fort Hood Massacre Shooter Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan

  • ModDem72 · 1 month ago
    This should be a time for overwhelming compassion for the victims and thoughtful, patient analysis ... but instead we have to wade through the screaming hordes co-opting a tragedy to advance their own agendas.
  • Polimom · 1 month ago
    This is, of course, the nightmare scenario so many have been afraid of: an American Muslim turning on his countrymen in the name of his religion. Worse yet that he was in the Army himself.

    Imagine the thoughts and feelings of the many many Muslims in the armed services today, and the millions more practicing the faith in the United States. I have enormous sympathy for them. Already branded by religious affiliation, they are now faced with the bitter hostility of suspicious countrymen whose worst fears are realized.

    This is such a tragedy on so very many levels.
  • merkin · 1 month ago
    Kind of the perfect storm of crazy. Muslim, a psychiatrist under stress treating PTSD. in gun nut central, Killeen of gun nut central Texas (Geo. Hennard killed 23 there), a graduate of Virginia Tech where Cho got 33.

    There is enough here to satisfy and support anyone's pet theories of the root causes of mass violence.
  • ProfElwood · 1 month ago
    I think that the point here is that we need to patiently wait a bit before we embarrass ourselves analyzing assumptions and incomplete information.
  • merkin · 1 month ago
    I couldn't agree more.

    My point was that this incident seems to provide fodder for anyone to believe it supports whatever theory they want it to There is no need to jump to a new conclusion when the incident can be spun to support a long held one. Which is what the early commentators seem to be doing. (I have to say though, not so much here)

    The past history of these kinds of incidents show that it is hard to find rational reasons for irrational acts.
  • sparkles43 · 1 month ago
    All due respect, there is no proof this man turned on the other soldiers because of religion. I think you are jumping to conclusions. It seems this guy snapped about being sent to combat after dealing with so many post traumatic syndrome patients. But to say this was all about religion is going too far.
  • Polimom · 1 month ago
    sparkles43 -- you are perhaps correct. It may be that I'm jumping to an unwarranted conclusion, and that this had nothing to do with his religion after all. However, I'm certainly not condemning all Americans of that faith; on the contrary, I fear for them.

    Editing to add, before I forget again -- Joe, this is a great round-up. Thank you very much!
  • AustinRoth · 1 month ago
    All due respect, there is no proof this man turned on the other soldiers because of religion. I think you are jumping to conclusions. It seems this guy snapped about being sent to combat after dealing with so many post traumatic syndrome patients. But to say this was all about religion is going too far.

    What would he have to do to make you think it WAS because of religion, as saying suicide bombing by Muslims is justified (internet postings), that infidels that do not believe in the Koran should be beheaded and have salt poured down their necks (at a professional conference of psychiatrists!), and screaming "Allah Akbar" while killing everyone near him isn't enough?

    Perhaps he should have had his "Islamic Jihad' tee-shirt on, and screamed instead, 'Just to make sure there is no confusion over my motivations, I am doing this in the name of Islam".

    However, I fear you, and the apologists like you, would still say, 'Let's not jump to conclusions now."

    Jeesh.
  • Silhouette · 1 month ago
    Yes, yes indeed. I wonder if Cheney will run with this one?

    The message here is "we should hate and distrust all muslims once again".

    Which leads to balling up the herd into the "stay in AF/Pak" corral and "let's renew our presence in the Middle East" corral.

    I say that's a huge mistake, to think like a dumb cow. I don't recall after massacres by those raised christian or another western religion that we are encouraged to hate all christians and justify bombing churchs and so on..

    Remember your head. Don't lose it in the fury dear readers..
  • Andy · 1 month ago
    Col. Pat Lang is the only one who I think has gotten the analysis on this completely right. The key word: "Alienation."
  • redbus · 1 month ago
    Thanks, Andy, for the link. There are many soldiers of faith in the military. A frequent commenter on TMV is Jefferson Davis (an apparent pen name), and he apparently is Army, and a conservative Christian, judging by his comments. Likewise, my nephew (a retired Army Captain) appreciated the work ethic of a Mormon soldier in his platoon. So it seems that loyalty to a Christian or Mormon God does not preclude doing ones duty to country. I wonder: Is there something inherent in Muslim faith that would have put Maj. Hasan in an impossible dilemma, a choice between following the dictates of his faith or following the orders of his superiors? I'm asking the question, and I'm sure I'm not the only one doing so today.
  • DLS · 1 month ago
    The guy is alive, and presumably he'll be questioned eventually.

    In the meantime, consider past events, including not only the hand-grenade incident at the start of the Iraq war but also the shooting in Arkansas, and look for similarities as well as differences, for what they both are worth.
  • T-Steel · 1 month ago
    Comments (including mine) that didn't pertain to the subject of THIS post have been deleted. Please stay on the topic of this post. I didn't (should know better). Sorry about that.