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Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

MuleFace — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:20:39 -0000

Such nonsense and paranoia. I&#39m always amazed at the fixation on Cheney. I&#39m not particularly defending the guy, just object to the obsessive beliefs so many seem to have about him. Partisan "blame" about the economy is silly and irrelevant. Are you telling me the Democrats were out there sounding the alarm about the housing/mortgage/financial bubble/crisis? In what meaningful way were their policies different or preventative of what happened? Let&#39s face it - we got here together & we can only fix it together.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

MuleFace — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:20:39 -0000

Such nonsense and paranoia. I'm always amazed at the fixation on Cheney. I'm not particularly defending the guy, just object to the obsessive beliefs so many seem to have about him. Partisan "blame" about the economy is silly and irrelevant. Are you telling me the Democrats were out there sounding the alarm about the housing/mortgage/financial bubble/crisis? In what meaningful way were their policies different or preventative of what happened? Let's face it - we got here together & we can only fix it together.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

Silhouette — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:21:00 -0000

Hard to be President when you&#39re behind bars...

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

StockBoySF — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:20:11 -0000

"On this Sunday here’s something to be truly thankful for: that Dick Cheney never became President."

There&#39s always the possibility of Cheney/Palin 2012. He takes a year or two to do what he wants as prez and then turns the reins over to Palin.

Please don&#39t jinx us with such statements! And Palin is just like Cheney temperamentally. She&#39s not afraid to use the power of the office to get what she wants, including for personal gain (or retribution). So even if Cheney is out for good, there&#39s always someone to take his place.

We need to be mindful of this when electing leaders.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

StockBoySF — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:08:50 -0000

Why does anyone listen to Cheney any longer? We should shrug him off.

From the CNN website: "But Cheney said he and Bush had to spend money to deal with the September 11, 2001 attacks, the resulting war in Afghanistan, the disaster of 2005&#39s Hurricane Katrina, and the costly and unpopular war in Iraq, now nearly six years old.

"All of these things required us to spend money that we had not originally planned to spend, or weren&#39t originally part of the budget," Cheney said. "Stuff happens. And the administration has to be able to respond to that, and we did."&#39

Cheney acts as though unforeseen circumstances are at the root of the problems. But he&#39s been in high level government for years and knows that unforeseen events happen all the time.

The success of a government is dealing with problems and difficult circumstances thrown your way, changing your path to meet the needs. Clearly the Bush government failed in this. For starters Bush did not have to keep his tax cuts to the wealthy in place to respond to the crisis. But Bush and Cheney choose to do so for political gain, rather then make the hard decisions, which would have been more helpful for the country, but less popular to that small fraction of the population making more than $250,000 year.

If Cheney is blaming these unforeseen circumstances for the fact that he and Bush could not govern how they wanted, then I suppose we should be glad for those disasters. I shudder to think what other horrors Bush/Cheney would have wrought had they the chance.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

Silhouette — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:21:00 -0000

Hard to be President when you're behind bars...

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

dualdiagnosis — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:58:39 -0000

He&#39s right-

“I think there’s no question but what the economic circumstances that he inherited are difficult ones,” Cheney said. "We said that before we left. I don’t think you can blame the Bush administration for the creation of those circumstances. It’s a global financial problem.

“We had, in fact, tried to deal with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac some years before, with major reforms that were blocked by Democrats on the Hill – [House Financial Services Chairman] Barney Frank and [Senate Banking Chairman] Chris Dodd. So I think the notion that you can just sort of throw it off on the prior administration – that’s interesting rhetoric, but I don’t think anybody really cares a lot about that. What they care about is what’s going to work, and how we’re going to get out of these difficulties.”

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

D. E.Rodriguez — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:57:48 -0000

So?

or

http://themoderatevoice.com/18772/guest-voice-d...

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

StockBoySF — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:20:11 -0000

"On this Sunday here’s something to be truly thankful for: that Dick Cheney never became President."

There's always the possibility of Cheney/Palin 2012. He takes a year or two to do what he wants as prez and then turns the reins over to Palin.

Please don't jinx us with such statements! And Palin is just like Cheney temperamentally. She's not afraid to use the power of the office to get what she wants, including for personal gain (or retribution). So even if Cheney is out for good, there's always someone to take his place.

We need to be mindful of this when electing leaders.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

StockBoySF — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:08:50 -0000

Why does anyone listen to Cheney any longer? We should shrug him off.

From the CNN website:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POL...

"But Cheney said he and Bush had to spend money to deal with the September 11, 2001 attacks, the resulting war in Afghanistan, the disaster of 2005's Hurricane Katrina, and the costly and unpopular war in Iraq, now nearly six years old.

"All of these things required us to spend money that we had not originally planned to spend, or weren't originally part of the budget," Cheney said. "Stuff happens. And the administration has to be able to respond to that, and we did."'

Cheney acts as though unforeseen circumstances are at the root of the problems. But he's been in high level government for years and knows that unforeseen events happen all the time.

The success of a government is dealing with problems and difficult circumstances thrown your way, changing your path to meet the needs. Clearly the Bush government failed in this. For starters Bush did not have to keep his tax cuts to the wealthy in place to respond to the crisis. But Bush and Cheney choose to do so for political gain, rather then make the hard decisions, which would have been more helpful for the country, but less popular to that small fraction of the population making more than $250,000 year.

If Cheney is blaming these unforeseen circumstances for the fact that he and Bush could not govern how they wanted, then I suppose we should be glad for those disasters. I shudder to think what other horrors Bush/Cheney would have wrought had they the chance.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

Silhouette — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:07:32 -0000

"Future historians will sift out precisely what his role was in the administration."
***********

No no no. You&#39ve got it all wrong. Here&#39s the correct sentence (pun intended):

"Current prosecutors will sift out precisely what his role was (is) in the administration."

There, that is more correct.

Either we prosecute him or we cease to exist as a democratic nation. It really is that pivotal. You can bet that right now as I right this, some other nefarious person or persons are sitting down and taking note of the audacity of his crimes and the freedom that he enjoys from culpablity and carving their own plans accordingly. Not everyone goes to church on Sunday. Those who are as ruthless as Cheney may, in the obvious and glaring lack of any consequences whatsoever, be setting their sights on usurping the United States via similar means.

There is no terrorist worse that the underminer. Did I mention that Bush is tight with the Bin Ladens and that arab families are tighter still amongst themselves?

It&#39s time to do the math. We simply must.

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

dualdiagnosis — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:58:39 -0000

He's right-

“I think there’s no question but what the economic circumstances that he inherited are difficult ones,” Cheney said. "We said that before we left. I don’t think you can blame the Bush administration for the creation of those circumstances. It’s a global financial problem.

“We had, in fact, tried to deal with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac some years before, with major reforms that were blocked by Democrats on the Hill – [House Financial Services Chairman] Barney Frank and [Senate Banking Chairman] Chris Dodd. So I think the notion that you can just sort of throw it off on the prior administration – that’s interesting rhetoric, but I don’t think anybody really cares a lot about that. What they care about is what’s going to work, and how we’re going to get out of these difficulties.”

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

Dorian — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:57:48 -0000

So?

http://themoderatevoice.com...

Re: Dick Cheney Shrugs Off Bush Administration Role In Economic Ills

Silhouette — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:07:32 -0000

"Future historians will sift out precisely what his role was in the administration."
***********

No no no. You've got it all wrong. Here's the correct sentence (pun intended):

"Current prosecutors will sift out precisely what his role was (is) in the administration."

There, that is more correct.

Either we prosecute him or we cease to exist as a democratic nation. It really is that pivotal. You can bet that right now as I write this, some other nefarious person or persons are sitting down and taking note of the audacity of his crimes and the freedom that he enjoys from culpablity and carving their own plans accordingly. Not everyone goes to church on Sunday. Those who are as ruthless as Cheney may, in the obvious and glaring lack of any consequences whatsoever, be setting their sights on usurping the United States via similar means.

There is no terrorist worse than the underminer. Did I mention that Bush is tight with the Bin Ladens and that arab families are tighter still amongst themselves?

It's time to do the math. We simply must. As painful, stunning and embarassing as it may be, we simply must.