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Gov. or AG in their states?  No reason why it has to be the top spot. Women in the House could also choose to run - though I think the last President who came from the House was Gerald Ford, and his route was a one-time deal.  Of course, it might be that the next President won't even hold office until the mid-term elections.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_19:48:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "ThurmanHart", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358275": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Just a quick side point to the one that DLS made about extremism and litmus tests among feminists, Jill- one thing I've noticed even among less extreme liberal feminists is that the prochoice position appears to be part of the orthodoxy. It's quite common in my experience to hear or see Democrat females or feminists say that conservative women are not representing women's issues if they have a prolife stance. I think that's something that has changed (for the worse, in my opinion) in the feminist movement in my lifetime- I believe that there used to be room for both prolife and prochoice positions but now the 'abortion rights' position appears to be dogmatic to many feminists.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:06:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358233": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "ThurmanHart: Sure! Those would be great too - especially AG (being a lawyer myself I would love to see more women become AGs).  You are absolutely correct re: trying to raise the proportions across the board in terms of elected officeholders.<br><br>I do think that in addition to Clinton and Palin's presence helping crack the ceiling a bit more, we also see that you can run for VP or Prez from a variety of other positions or backgrounds - I think it's crucial to breaking whatever powerful political networks exist that keep people from getting \"in\" and running successfullly, that we recognize skills and qualities, and not just titles.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:04:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12352001, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12357292": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "DLS re: comment that mentions ACLU:<br><br>We're going to have to agree to disagree here. The ACLU can't be knocked as liberal when you've got a SCOTUS whose 5-4 decisions this year in particular show a huge amount of activism (I'm thinking in particular about cases like the one about age discrimination - did you read that one? It's shameful IMO what they did to precedent).<br><br>I really, again, just live with the ACLU.  The represent people I abhor and they represent issues which, if no one else raised a ruckus, would irreparably alter the freedom we have in this country.  They're a group I'm very glad exists but with which I definitely don't always agree.  <br><br>You are very comfortable, it seems, in calling this \"liberal\" or \"radical\" or whatever - labeling. I prefer to describe what I feel they do or don't do - labels are of very limited value when you're trying to decide what's got value and what doesn't, IMO.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_20:25:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12336222, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12446986": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\" I don't speak for 'feminists' as you see them.\"<br><br>There are no alternative \"visions.\"  The extremists characterize and taint contemporary feminism.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-10_11:14:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12326283": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lynn Cheney \u201812", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:27:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "jwest", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12324364": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Totally unacceptable.\"<br><br>I'd say \"unrepresentative,\" but have no fear, there are women who will run eventually, no doubt about it.<br><br>Prior to the Obama triumph on Super Tuesday, the smart money was on Clinton to win not only the Dem primary, but the general election, too.  As I was saying frequently, \"Get ready to say it again -- 'President Clinton.'\"<br><br>In the 1980s, Jeane Kirkpatrick distinguished herself and she would have been great to succeed Reagan (even if she would have been the target of misogynistic attacks by NOW as well as other lefty groups).<br><br>Choosing Ferraro for VP in the past was baffling.  In L.A. we all asked, \"Who is _she_?\" as nobody had ever heard of her, as opposed to Dianne Feinstein from San Francisco, whom everybody knew of since Moscone and Milk were assassinated.<br><br>I presume with additional years of experience _and_ exposure, we'll see more female candidates emerge, just as we'll see more black, Hispanic, etc., candidates emerge for all kinds of leadership positions.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_14:42:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327181": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "DLS - I'm all for the Dem side going first with the female-female ticket, but, it has been said, tho I don't know exactly why, that people think the GOP will be the first to run a woman as president.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:49:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327567": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"people think the GOP will be the first to run a woman as president\"<br><br>Not out of tokenism, either, but featuring a serious contender.  It's because women like Kirkpatrick, to name an older example again, where shown to not all kowtow to NOW extremism or other liberal-to-radical notions (which the Left implicitly demands women \"should\" support, to be a \"real\" woman, just as one has to be liberal and Democratic to be a \"real\" black, for example) and this radical element of U.S. liberalism that includes the worst parts of feminism repels many more voters than it attracts.  That there are women in the GOP, or are conservative, is largely a quiet progressive phenomenon, despite the more notorious examples in recent times like Ann Coulter (deliberate controversy and provocation for notoriety).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:57:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12334355": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sinistarx - in addition to Gregoire, what do you think about some of the other names mentioned?  And, specifically, I think about them in comparison to the men that are being offered up, early as it is:<br><br>Huckabee, Romney, Jindal, Sanford still maybe?<br><br>Really - some of these women - they are amazing in what they've accomplished.  I just don't see any of these guys being any better if at the same level.<br><br>What do you think?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:23:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12334155, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12398766": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "They might protect civil liberties all along the spectrum but if they're involved then it tends to mean that someone is infringing on another's civil liberties. Now consider conservative attitudes towards gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. Who do you suppose is going to get the short end of the stick?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_15:20:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "Tenek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12394639, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12388758": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Maybe the reason the ACLU is a \"left-Democratic auxiliary\" is that conservatives don't care about civil liberties.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_13:34:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "Tenek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12386217, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358169": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Father Time - I think the GOP women I mention have proven themselves, sometimes multiple times over, to be far more than GOP talking heads who adhere to strick ideology - it's part of why I think some of them would truly make great VP or presidential picks.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:01:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12358124, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12325401": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I agree in part with your conclusion, \"I presume with additional years of experience _and_ exposure, we'll see more female candidates emerge, just as we'll see more black, Hispanic, etc., candidates emerge for all kinds of leadership positions.\"<br><br>The part I don't agree with is the experience - there are POC and WOC and women who have the experience already - and Obama and Palin both contribute to the lowering of that bar. Now, it's a matter of political party structures and bias.  Ohio is actually a great state for observing in this regard - Jennifer Brunner v. Lee Fisher for Dem US Senate nomination.<br><br>I was at Georgetown during Kirkpatrick's tenure and I just don't believe she was ever much of a politician, so I didn't see it.  However, someone did mention to me today the suggestion of Condi Rice - I think she'd make a great addition to the list I wrote, but I'm not sure she's remotely interested in a elected, political career.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:05:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12447131": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"I think the concept of Judicial activism has been irreparably altered specifically by this Roberts Court\"<br><br>It's not like past decades, thank goodness.  And Sotomayor, controversy and all, isn't that threatening.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-10_11:18:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327712": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Jill,<br><br>The one thing that the \u201908 elections have taught us is that public office experience is not a factor for a Presidential candidate.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_16:01:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "jwest", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12333601": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Mary Cheney :-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:00:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "kritt11", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12342178": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Honestly, I think that since we live in a State that hasn't met a tax it doesn't like, the GOP has had its hands full keeping this state business friendly.\"<br><br>(NOTE: See remark at bottom as well as this response here.)<br><br>That's no different than when I was there (1992-6).  It's no surprise that Boeing was looking at relocating its future assembly work to Wichita -- you realize that, don't you?  Or why numerous people register their vehicles in other states?  (NOTE: This also applies to California, which also is business-unfriendly and has exported many people as well as jobs, as I can attest, as well as to other business-unfriendly states.)<br><br>The big question will be, will such problems (and related ones, like environmental activism and extremism) be compounded by similar activities by the Dems in Washington?  The climate bill is ugly...<br><br>* * *<br><br>\"Mary Cheney\"<br><br>If not President or VP, certainly a Cabinet or other federal post if her experience qualifies her for this, which could be part of a stairway toward the VP or Presidential position eventually...<br><br>* * *<br><br>\"She's a mom AND has a same-sex orientation.\"<br><br>Jill, are these things pluses (or should-be's) for a candidate, or more \"position gap\"-filling attributes?<br><br>(When I hear \"a mom\" I think of Patty Murray, from Washington, in the Senate.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_19:31:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12328996": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What if the Republican primary voters choose a male candidate who happens to think that the best VP candidate also happens to be a man?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_16:12:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "Tenek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12359590": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "to CStanley re: why women view choices of other women as judgemental toward their own:<br><br>Well, I think this is a confounding and conflated issue that is really hard to untangle.  The first thing that came to my mind was the fact that pro-life groups want to say that it's not about the choices or the judgment, it's about murder and killing and unborn lives and the sanctity of life - at least, that is how I interpret that, from what I've heard - not what I personally believe or feel.<br><br>And so then it's the pro-choice women who either 1) might feel that a judgement is being made on them making a choice to abort or provide that choice for women who want that choice or 2) feel strongly that the government shall not abridge the right protected in Roe for a woman to make this decision, as a result of the courts finding a right to privacy in making this decision.<br><br>So - I kind of see the pro-life side as disrespecting the law of the land, right or wrong though they may feel that law is, by pro-life individuals in the name of wanting to prevent murder - not just \"judge\" the choices of other women.<br><br>Do you know what I mean?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:49:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12359003, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358183": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I thought that Jodi Rell seemed pretty intriguing and wondered if McCain would consider tapping her. I presume several factors weighed against her though- she was probably too moderate to balance out McCain with the base of the party, and perhaps being older weighed against her due to McCain's age. I also noted, as you have, Jill, that CT voters seem to answer polls about her pretty approvingly yet the residents that I know seem somewhat unenthusiastic. Perhaps she lacks charisma and is seen as more of a work horse. That's actually my kind of candidate, but unfortunately celebrity seems to be more valued these days.<br><br>One thing I also noted in researching her background is that she never graduated from college. I wonder how THAT would have played out in national politics, given the thrashing that Palin took over her lack of Ivy League pedigree. It's funny but I personally never paid any attention to the alma mater of candidates because I've (naively, I suppose) felt that our system was enough of a meritocracy that the many, many graduates of smaller or less prestigious universities could rise to the top in their careers. Now that the discussion has come up comparing Obama's representation of meritocracy as opposed to what Palin would have represented- it's the first time it's really occurred to me that all POTUSes since Reagan have been Ivy Leaguers. I wouldn't deliberately seek out a candidate who wasn't, but at the same time I hope that trend doesn't continue to the point of making the office into an exclusive one.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:02:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12386217": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"The ACLU can't be knocked as liberal when you've got a SCOTUS whose 5-4 decisions this year in particular show a huge amount of activism \"<br><br>I'll just note that in addition to misusing \"activism\" here too freely and loosely, this was a logical goof of the first order.  What matters is the nature of the ACLU; it's irrelevent what you may believe, true or otherwise, about the behavior of other parties.  (Also, even if the current Court _were_ activist, that is in no way a logical or ethical or any other kind of defense of the ACLU.)  And we know the nature of the ACLU.  (Like other parties such as unions, it's effective a left-Democratic auxiliary.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_12:33:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12333994": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ryan, in regard to this comment you left, \"What if the Republican primary voters choose a male candidate who happens to think that the best VP candidate also happens to be a man?\"<br><br>The voters should choose who the voters want. But you and I both know that the options offered will reflect decisions made at a few different levels at which there must be consideration of a broad range of options.  I'm submitting that the eight or nine women I mentioned, plus Liz Cheney, Condi Rice and whomever else others come up with, also be considered.  People were lobbying for Palin long before many of us ever really knew anything about her.  So - I am starting early by putting a bee in people's bonnets and saying, don't forget - there are a lot of qualified potential GOP candidates for 2012's White House run, and at least several of them are women.<br><br>It's about priming the pump and filling the pipeline, Ryan, and then making sure that the decision makers who offer up the options for the voters to choose make choices that won't make voters roll their eyes.  Part of Palin's appeal was her being a woman - McCain said it and we all knew it.  So - why not again?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:13:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12333868": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Ryan - <br><br>I confess to a blonde moment - and I'm blonde, so my apologies to myself and blondes.  I don't understand what you are getting at here: <br><br>\"Jill - usually when you complain about some group being predominantly or entirely male you at least pick one with a few more people. The all-male 2012 GOP ticket starts at 25% for complete randomness... and picking a national ticket is very, very nonrandom.\"<br><br>I do object to the characterization of me as complaining, but that's minor.  Could be because it's late in the day, but what exactly are you saying? Sorry.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:09:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12331566": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well, I'm not going to say they're not sexist, although since it's traditional to discriminate against women that sorta makes it a conservative position by default.<br><br>Jill - usually when you complain about some group being predominantly or entirely male you at least pick one with a few more people. The all-male 2012 GOP ticket starts at 25% for complete randomness... and picking a national ticket is very, very nonrandom.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_16:37:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "Tenek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12330879, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327088": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"re: the token male. Aw...I don't know [...] I suggest they give it a rest for a few cycles.\"<br><br><br>\"UNACCEPTABLE!\" -- Rush Limbaugh", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:47:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12394312": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "To DLS @ 12:22pm today -<br><br>Hmm. I'll think about these points. The re-emphasize your previous comments, but I'm not sure I agree or disagree anymore or less with you on them.  For ex., sure - we've come to think that judicial activism is a term of art, but a la Frank Luntz and many others, such terms have come up for grab.  Sometimes I like that, sometimes I don't.  Activism in and of itself is nonpartisan, IMO.  Which is to say, I think the concept of Judicial activism has been irreparably altered specifically by this Roberts Court.  That might come to be one of its hallmarks, really. <br><br>And kind of like conservative women embracing their own brand of feminism.  There are just a lot of phrases up for grabs, and not being a lover of labels, I find that to be natural and interesting, but also dangerous.<br><br>The whole thing about feminism, abortion, academia - I don't related to what you're expressing. I understand what you've written, but it's just not something I think about much at all - it involves a very tiny portion of individuals and I would not want to overstate the influence.  That is, of course, just my opinion/feeling about it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_14:09:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12385735, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12394034": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ryan @10:30am today:<br><br>Got it - thank you.<br><br>Re: the pipeline metaphor - well....she said with a smile.  This is the whole thing! Palin and Obama (and others, esp. if you read The Fix and his article today about how hard a time the White House and Rahm are having recruiting people) demonstrate that that assumption about how a long the pipe might be re: # of election cycles is totally up for grabs. I, personally, think that that is NOT necessarily a good thing. But I also think it shows how we should ALWAYS be looking at candidates on a case by case basis - different things take different lengths of time to mature/ripen - political candidates/politicians may or may not be any different, don't you think?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_14:03:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12381587, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327219": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Jwest - GREAT suggestion for an addition - Lynn Cheney - of course.  But - now - I have to look her up - has she run for anything yet?  I know, Meg Whitman hasn't. :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:50:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12334261": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm really really REALLY going to take issue with your implication that \"The Left\" \"implicitly demands women \"should\" support, to be a \"real\" woman\" \"NOW extremism or other liberal-to-radical notions.\"<br><br>That's never been my experience - never.  I am not now nor have I ever been a member of any feminist group and I've voted Dem FAR more often than GOP.<br><br>What \"worst parts of feminism\" are you even contemplating when you say \"this radical element of U.S. liberalism that includes the worst parts of feminism repels many more voters than it attracts?<br><br>I mean - really - I think you've got some old notions that women themselves, who consider themselves working for women's rights or issues or leadership or strength just don't hold.  And those that do, make a far smaller proportion than I think you think is out there.<br><br>But I'd like more clarification - because I really don't see the observation you seem to have seen.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:20:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12327567, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12447286": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Maybe the reason the ACLU is a 'left-Democratic auxiliary' is that conservatives don't care about civil liberties.\"<br><br>Plenty of suitable people also have been led to believe the \"Conservatives are anti-science\" myth, a more common and useful current political weapon and rationalization for Democratic politics and policies.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-10_11:22:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12400183": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ryan - well - I just haven't reviewed enough cases of theirs lately - I tend to watch for religion and youth-related cases but otherwise don't monitor regularly.  I think we need to be careful and not push something that seems to be a common perception that, in fact, might not be. I'd be persuaded by stats etc but I don't really know, beyond the meme kind of thing pushed about the ACLU. (I'm going a bit easy on them because I do know people who work for the ACLU and frankly, one of them, a Harvard grad, is very conservative so...I just wouldn't be as sure as you are.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_15:46:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12360504": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Re: CStanley comment on respecting choices: Maybe. I'm not sure.  I'd agree that starting anywhere re: giving space and respect would be a good thing when it comes to those issues.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_22:32:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12360297, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327129": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"we've had male-male tickets on the GOP side up until last year\"<br><br>Almost the same record on the Demmie side.  Let them go first.  [grin]", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:48:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12394575": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@DLS 12:36<br><br>Yeah, again, I will disagree w/you here.  There's no such thing as an accurate label unless all the people using it - speaking it and hearing it - agree on what it represents.  And that's just not the case with several of the labels you've used.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_14:15:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12386319, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327193": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Palin-Coulter '12   \"Bring 'em on!\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:50:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12357387": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sinistarx:<br><br>This is a great standard or criteria to consider when considering who we would want to be a leader or president: <br><br>\"I would lean towards a Governor that has faced political hardship and succeeded in lifting their State's profile in the categories that matter:low unemployment, low crime, high production, good transportation network, heavy tourism, and so on.\"<br><br>100% agree.  I guess the tougher question is, why don't we then follow through and analyze for that? :)  I would say it's that liberal media bias, but I don't actually believe that. :)<br><br>I agree w/you on McCain and Hutchison too - I thought she would have been SUCH a smart pick!  Truly.  I said at the time of the Palin pick that it was a horrible miscalculation of the electorate and I think many more people would have had a harder time choosing between the two tickets if he'd had someone like Hutchison.<br><br>The sensationalism that seems to govern the candidate campaign season is just so upsetting to me - I know we know better, but we just keep doing it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_20:28:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12337512, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358366": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "CStanley - nice to see a comment from you here. :) I hope you are well.<br><br>Yeah - isn't that interesting about Rell re: the enthusiasm gap so to speak? I totally sense the same thing and cannot figure it out, but it does seem to be very real (the gap that is).<br><br>About the education thing - well, that's one reason several of the women I list are so intriguing too - because they do not come from Ivy Leagues yet they show just how successful and tough and persistent they've been.  I do notice, as I have before and as I've read somewhere, that the GOP female leaders or succeeders if you will tend to come from business - hey, was it you who said that to me once!? :)<br><br>And that seems to be true about some of the women I've named - Liz Cheney, Meg Whitman I think of right away.<br><br>Basically, given the expansion of experiences/background of our population, it only makes sense that the leaders we select reflect that.  BUT...that doesn't mean we pick just anyone - it should never mean that, with extremely rare exceptions which I can't at the moment think of. lol", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:11:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12358183, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12385735": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Jill,<br><br>1. 49 comments so far.  I told you that this is the best thread in quite a while (as measured, at least, by the number of comments it has attracted).<br><br>2. Judicial activism is a term that is quite clear, and doesn't merit being used if a courts' decisions merely aren't what you want (not liberal enough, or not liberal frequently enough).  True critics such as I of the illegitimate practice know the difference between correct use of the term and misuse of the term, be it out of ignorance, to seek dimunition of the term's effect when correctly used, to confuse, or elsewise.<br><br>3. I deliberately chose not to comment on something, as I occasionally do in order to let others mention it first, and it has been mentioned now: abortion.  Even those of us moderates and even those who truly are conservative who support abortion rights are repelled by the extremist, militant, and worse stance that is frequently taken by feminist groups, far out of the mainstream (government should provide abortion to all, even minors, demanding no parental consent or even notification, etc; blind, maniacal devotion to and defense of Roe v. Wade, which was an obvious truly activist ruling by the Supreme Court; pro-abortion, as-militant-as-possible \"litmus test\" along with absolute acceptance of Roe v. Wade for any candidate Justice of the Supreme Court, etc.), as well as the accompanying dishonesty and slander about people who oppose such extremism, and its frequently accompanying dishonesty and slander of such people that they are \"anti-woman\" [sic], with the implicit presumption that the militant extremists define what is the \"true\" [sic] position of and for women.  This also goes for other occasional farther-left \"causes\" on which \"authentic\" women are expected to hold the (politically) \"correct\" position, such as the \"comparable worth\" cause.<br><br>4. I could also have added yesterday the bizarre phenomenon in academia of what is claimed to be \"scholarship\" related to feminism (and women's studies), which is a combination of schizoid word-and-phrase-salad psycho-babble and predictable adherence to a radical (sometimes militant and extremist) left-wing political ideology, along with related excursions into an alternative universe, claiming, similar to what the Afro-centrist kooks* have, that conventional, \"establishment\" science as well as the economy and society are \"patriarchal,\" wrongly contrived (typically to \"dominate\" or \"suppress\" women, minorities, etc.-- Evil Western Culture) and there are legitimate alternative female versions of these, that in fact are superior), and that people should be \"discovering\" patriarchal \"privilege\" [sic] everywhere and feeling guilty about it and flagellating themselves to atone for this -- but I didn't mention it earlier because these people truly are fringists and ordinarily don't merit attention.  However, they are part of feminism's true baggage.<br><br>* Birds of a feather -- PC-lockstep far-left types.  Same \"problems,\" same \"solutions\" -- quite typical.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_12:22:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12386319": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"You are very comfortable, it seems, in calling this 'liberal' or 'radical' or whatever - labeling. I prefer to describe what I feel they do or don't do\"<br><br>I do both at the same time.  The \"labels\" are accurate descriptors, not mere nomenclature devoid of anything in addition to their character elements.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_12:36:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12336073": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"What 'worst parts of feminism' are you even contemplating when you say 'this radical element of U.S. liberalism that includes the worst parts of feminism repels many more voters than it attracts'?\"<br><br>The fake \"sexist\" and \"sexism\" charges levied at anyone and everything that the extremists don't like is one example of what repels so many people.  Also the attitude that to be an \"authentic\" woman you must be liberal and Democratic, and that of course non-liberal people and the GOP are \"anti-female\" [sic] (and of course, women who dare to be non-liberal or Republican are conspicuously not defended or subjected to the same attacks the radical lefties don't reserve merely for non-liberal men).<br><br>The extremist, radical, as well as too-blatantly ideological and political parts, Jill, in other words.<br><br>An contemporary example of related poor behavior, but more so in this case an object of scorn and laughter at their expense (even if they're unable to grasp that), not loathing or outrage, is this notorious little tirade after Kennedy chose to endorse Obama rather than Clinton last year:<br><br><a href=\"http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_012808.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_012808.html</a><br><br>I was going to direct you to Feminista to show you what the militant feminists look like, the \"animal welfare\" equivalent of the worst of PETA, but apparently \"www.feminista.com\" is no longer alive and unwell.<br><br>* * *<br><br>\"I think you've got some old notions that women themselves\"<br><br>I freely confess to the foregoing in a truly _literal_ sense.  That is to say, I'm among those who were sold all along on the earlier, decent, geniune, pre-radicalism-and-blatant-political nonsense associated with not only women's rights but civil rights (I've never been racist or sexist).  Yes, my \"old\" (non-PC-enough) notion is (how a _good_ bumper sticker put it when I saw it in Seattle) the amazing conception that women are PEOPLE!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:55:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12359626": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Re: Death penalty comment from CStanley - I don't think I actually know anyone who has ever told me that they support the death penalty, but I haven't outright asked that many people.  The people with whom the topic has come up I believe are all against it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:51:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12359519, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12334155": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "My state's (Washington) Governor is Christine Gregoire.  :)  <br><br>The GOP would likely be first to the plate with a female candidate, as they do need a big distraction to swing things back to them, and an all-star white male ticket won't cut it.<br><br>I fear that the pool of candidates is small.  Finding a female candidate that has the qualities of (if not actual experience) leadership, is teflon to scandal and has enough of the 'current' conservative playbook but is appealing to the masses is going to be hard to discover.  Like with Gov Palin, we will get someone who is 1 of these and have a PR machine that will distract us with slick, well-produced propaganda to browbeat us into supporting her.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:18:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "sinistarx", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12394639": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "@Ryan \"40 minutes ago\" (that's what it says as I type this!)<br><br>That's a great perspective re: the ACLU.  I do actually feel that they protect civil liberties all along the spectrum, but I like what you wrote because you open the window on the nuance of how civil liberties are perceived, defined and, ugh - I can't believe I'm writing this - labeled. :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_14:16:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12388758, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12325453": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Smiling re: the token male.  Aw...I don't know - we've had male-male tickets on the GOP side up until last year - I suggest they give it a rest for a few cycles. :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:06:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12334093": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Jwest - if I didn't say it in this thread, I must have elsewhere but I agree that the bar has perceivedly been lowered re: experience.  McCain did that by giving up the argument against Obama when he brought on Palin.  It never became an effective argument against Obama once Palin was on the ticket.  I think that's a huge mistake - and I wrote about that long before Obama became the nominee (you may recall, I was not an Obama supporter during the primary and continue to be less than thrilled with him in general).<br><br>I don't think we've seen the end of the debate over the role of experience just because McCain made a mistake (in my estimation, a mistake).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:16:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12325328": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "By the way, Jill, what's wrong with a token male as VP?  After all, not only does that reach out to the substantial male majority of GOP-leaning voters, but that's what Joe Biden has proven to be now as Obama's VP (including with foreign policy, for which he was primarily supposed to have been selected).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_15:03:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12394358": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "To DLS @12:28 -<br><br>You are going to have to ask someone else - I don't speak for \"feminists\" as you see them. I don't know what more to tell you.  I'm just not the right person to respond to that question.  I would urge you to not label and compartmentalize so much but again, just IMO.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_14:10:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12386009, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12357200": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "RE: DLS after my last comment before a batch of other comments:<br><br>Okay - this is a helpful clarification.  Yeah - I don't pay too much attention to extremes on either end unless they really prevent me from pursuing issues that are important to me.  Observe, notice, flag but then leave it alone. Because the reality is, just as with moderate conservatives, those of us more in the mainstream rather than the radical end you perceive need to make that mainstream or at least reasonable visage more obvious and promiment.  Taking time to bellyache about the rabid people is wasteful - IMO.<br><br>Sadly, this post wouldn't be necessary or even generating comments if the reality was that women were always perceived as just people.  But they haven't been and so this is where we are.  My state rep recently said that as a conservative GOP candidate for state treasurer, he wants to take back America to where the founding fathers wanted it.<br><br>That idea is absolutely vile to me - slavery? women with no vote? And so on.  Just cannot accept that.  But there's no need to go banshie on it either.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_20:20:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12336073, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12331044": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"public office experience is not a factor for a Presidential candidate\"<br><br>2008:<br><br>1. Thumbs Down on the GOP<br><br>2. Barack Obama is attractive and charismatic!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_16:32:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12446937": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"There's no such thing as an accurate label unless all the people using it - speaking it and hearing it - agree on what it represents.\"<br> <br>I made accurate statements of fact, and the \"labels\" (or whatever other name you may wish to substitute in place of \"terms\") are accurate if they are clear and correct, which they are.  I suppose in a rare or odd case you could raise an example, such as demanding a specific wavelength to officially define a specific color, but that's carrying things to rare and odd extremes, and is exceptional, not the norm.<br><br>Funny you mention agreement, as it is applicable to the (real) problem of judicial activism.<br><br>\"And that's just not the case with several of the labels you've used.\"<br><br>Well, if some would insist that \"red\" mean green instead, (which is a valid analogy to judicial activism, substuting one's own views and wishes for what was intended and agreed on, and what may correctly may be inferred from this or retroactively applied to it, and having judges rather than the legislature state what a law _should_be_), I really don't think that matters, Jill.  Unanimity obviously is never required to define a term.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-10_11:13:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12359003": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>BUT - they definitely have, IMO, a kind of split personality when it comes to individual rights and who gets to make which decisions for us.</i><br><br>BUT- the 'split' is logically defensible if one considers the fetus as a second person involved in the situation, a person with right to life which would supercede other rights of the other person involved. I appreciate people who might not agree with that stance but can see the rationale for it, and that's the kind of respect which seems to be lacking in so many quarters today. Obviously abortion is a divisive issue with strong emotional overtones, but I find it most distressing that it is so divisive particularly among women (kind of an offshoot of the divisiveness about motherhood in general if you know what I mean- the way that career women are sometimes unable to applaud mothers who stay at home to raise kids and vice versa for those on the mommy track to give kudos to the women who juggle both roles.)<br><br>I wonder why women seem to view the choices of other women as judgemental toward their own choices, you know? It's a shame we can't all appreciate the difficulties of the unique choices and decisions that our gender faces and feel confident about the indvidual choice we each make without having to invalidate or repudiate the other options which may be best for other women and families.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:30:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12358646, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12394460": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@DLS 12:33 <br><br>I disagree and I'm happy to throw down my JD/MSW dual licensure as a lawyer and social worker. I stand by my opinion and I disagree with your position.  Nothing personal.  I just completely disagree.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_14:12:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12386217, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12336222": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"I really don't see the observation you seem to have seen\"<br><br>You might also believe the ACLU is apolitical and defends all rights equally, Jill, even though that organization is obviously liberal and political and selective, and has made the letter \"C\" in the acronym frequently be claimed to stand for \"Cafeteria\" (for its selectivity, i.e., its hypocrisy) if not \"Communist\" by its many detractors.<br><br>It's kind of like so many who encounter the obviously liberal media and deny there is any liberal bias (like denying the roundness rather than \"objective\" flatness of the earth).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:59:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12359519": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Oh, one more quick aside since you briefly mentioned the death penalty. It's true that more self-identified conservatives support it than do self-identified liberals, but the difference is not that overwhelming- IOW, it's not really clearly defined as a right vs. left position as you might think. Here's the most recent data I could find:<br><a href=\"http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/gallup-poll-who-supports-death-penalty\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/gallup-poll-who...</a><br><br>Personally I'm opposed to it (and I do personally agree that that's the consistent prolife position, though I can also respectfully disagree with those who feel that abortion takes innocent lives while the death penalty takes the life of the guilty.) I also think I've personally encountered more liberals and left leaning moderates who support the death penalty than I have conservatives, though it doesn't always come up in conversation and I may be underestimating the number of conservative friends and acquaintances who are in favor of it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:46:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12333793": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Working backwards just because: Kritt11 - No argument from me! She's a mom AND has a same-sex orientation. :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_17:07:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12337512": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Jillmz- Well, Gov. Gregoire really has that job via 2 very contentious elections, with election fraud being the central argument thrown at both sides.  I'm not sure that her performance to date warrants an elevation to the national level, nor do I think she has distinguished herself in the Democratic Party to be considered.<br><br>Comparing her to the likes of Huckabee, et.al, I'd say she is about average.  No personal scandals that have come to light, but politically has had the advantage of a majority Democratic Legislature to get things done.  Honestly, I think that since we live in a State that hasn't met a tax it doesn't like, the GOP has had its hands full keeping this state business friendly.<br><br>I would lean towards a Governor that has faced political hardship and succeeded in lifting their State's profile in the categories that matter:low unemployment, low crime, high production, good transportation network, heavy tourism, and so on.<br><br>I fully expected John McCain to tap Kay Bailey Hutchinson over Sarah Palin for the VP nod, as she would have brought stability to the ticket and didn't have the baggage that the other female contenders had.  She actually might be the candidate to beat in 2016, but not sure if her profile will be raised enough (or the GOP reassembled) for 2012.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_18:32:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "sinistarx", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12360297": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Jill- I understand why abortion is divisive in that way- I meant that I'm more confounded by the divisiveness of issues of motherhood/childrearing. I think if there were more mutual respect for those choices, it would be a sort of foundation for respect on the harder issues like abortion.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_22:24:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12359590, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12386009": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"Sadly, this post wouldn't be necessary or even generating comments if the reality was that women were always perceived as just people. But they haven't been and so this is where we are.\"<br><br>But what is it that feminists want now (or demand, or dogmatically \"require\", as C. Stanley put it so well?)  Why substitute \"well-to-the-left-of-the-public-as-well-as-often-blatantly-partisan-Democrat\" for \"people\"?<br><br>(Note: This applies to other leftist groups in the Democratic Party camp, like black Americans.  The Democratic Party and liberalism in this country isn't merely \"inclusive\" but demands ideological, political, and often blatantly partisan dogma as credentials of these \"people's\" _authenticity_, in their view.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_12:28:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358124": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Good. Let the GOP run an all woman ticket. They will fail to win.<br><br>It is much easier to pick apart the GOP Social Darwinist arguments publicly from women whom state they believe in them.....because they really don't.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_20:59:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "Father_Time", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358768": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>I do notice, as I have before and as I've read somewhere, that the GOP female leaders or succeeders if you will tend to come from business - hey, was it you who said that to me once!? :)</i><br><br>Heh, yeah, I think that was me.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:24:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12358366, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12432232": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Mary Fallin - Lynn Cheney  - 2016", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-10_04:01:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "GaryJohnson2012", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12327666": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Lynn Cheney - of course. But - now - I have to look her up - has she run for anything yet?\"<br><br>She was at NEH.  Now, imagine her today or Sarah Palin (gasp) as \"Secretary of Culture.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_16:00:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12381587": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Jill - you've previously commented on things like the reconciliation committee for some bill (stimulus?) which had 10 members, all men. With something like that, it would indeed be highly unlikely to be that skewed with a random selection, even though the process was undoubtedly not random. If there are only two people involved then it's much more likely that a completely unbiased process would produce an all-male ticket.<br><br>Also, filling the pipeline is probably a useful metaphor, but keep in mind that the pipe is a lot longer than one election cycle. Equality can take a while to produce visible results.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-09_10:30:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "Tenek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12333868, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12358646": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "CStanley re: your second comment re: side point to DLS comment:<br><br>Yeah, you know, I've never been a staunch member of any movement but I do understand what you're describing.  I've experienced that as an issue related to individual privacy rights, the government being allowed to supplant its interests for a woman's and so on.  These are, after all, some of the reasons why the legal underpinnings of Roe have been challenged.<br><br>So maybe the focus has changed?  Not sure.  I would never say and I do not believe that women who prefer small govt, lower taxes and the 2nd Amendment (just as examples, promise) don't represent women if they also have a pro-life stance.<br><br>BUT - they definitely have, IMO, a kind of split personality when it comes to individual rights and who gets to make which decisions for us.  This extends to usual conservative opinion on the death penalty (supporting it) while still being pro-life over an embryo.<br><br>The issue is complicated by it being backed up to religion and moral assessments of human life, as well as who governs us.<br><br>And, despite all these nuances, spin and campaign tactics and media presentation try to reduce it to sound bites and good and evil and all that.  I tend to be big on pushing the existence and importance of nuance, no matter how it complicates matters.  But as soon as we give up on that, everything is susceptible to being collapsed as you describe it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:19:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12358275, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12359466": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Cool re: CStanley was the one who said something to me and I remembered! lol", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_21:44:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12358768, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12509800": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "DLS - we're really veering apart at this point on the comments you're quoting and commenting on.  That's the value of a blog, but my prior reflections in this thread about those assertions you're making reflect my opinion still.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-11_13:41:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12330879": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Ryan -- that shows that the GOP, Republicans, non-liberals are \"sexist,\" of course.  Just like they're \"racist,\" especially if another white male happens to be selected.<br><br>Jill -- this is the best thread in days.  And it's not really about Palin (or Sanford or Michael Jackson).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-08_16:30:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "http://themoderatevoice.com/disqus-blank.html", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "24696585", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "2724", "hash": 519763574907094891}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 24696585, "num_posts": 68, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "8e626a1cbe92745e5f4435bb28791555", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=themoderatevoice' +
		'&t=gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/uploads/forums/2724//avatar92.jpg';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">68</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on The Moderate Voice" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:24696585" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'themoderatevoice',
			't'				: 'gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/24696585/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td><label for="dsq-openid-username">Display name:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-username" /></td></tr>';
		message += '<tr><td class="dsq-openid-submit" colspan="3"><input type="button" value="Sign in" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.startConnect();" /></td></tr>';
		message += "</table>";

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sign in using OpenID');
	};

	this.startConnect = function() {
		var isblank = function(str) {
			return /^\s*$/.test(str);
		};

		var openid_url = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-url').value;
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-openid-username').value;

		if (isblank(openid_url)) {
			return;
		}

		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=500';
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/openid/begin/' + '?url=' + encodeURIComponent(openid_url) + '&username=' + encodeURIComponent(username);
		that._openidWindow = window.open(url, 'openidWindow', popupParams);
		that._openidInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeConnect = function() {
		if (that._openidWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._openidInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Reaction = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.hide = function(id) {
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/hidereaction.js?' + 'reaction_id=' + id);
	};

	this.reportMissingReactions = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled) {
			return;
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.queued) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Your report has been received. The system will automatically search for new reactions; if any are found, they will be displayed on this comment thread.<br/><br/>Thank&nbsp;you.',
												 'Reported missing reactions');
			return;
		}

		Dsq.Utils.execScript(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/forums/themoderatevoice/queueurl.js');
	};
};

Dsq.CNN = function() {
	var obj = {};

	obj.authenticate = function() {
		var url = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + "/saml/cnn/try/";
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl(url, {'target': document.location}, true);
	};

	return obj;
}();


if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
	(function() {
		DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE = /<div class="dsq-header-avatar"(.*?)>/gim;
		Dsq.Templates.registerFilter('postPrependHeader', function(html, post_id) {
			// Add "onmouseout" for dsq-header-avatar for dropProfile
			// functionality since IE6 cannot use :hover.
			function _headerAvatarReplace(content, inner, _unused, html) {
				return '<div class="dsq-header-avatar" '
					+ inner
					+ ' onmouseout="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')">';
			}
			html = html.replace(DSQ_HEADER_AVATAR_RE, _headerAvatarReplace);
			return html;
		});
	})();
}









(function() {
	//
	// Load theme.  This overrides the base templates with template functions
	// from the respective themes.
	//
	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		var theme = 'narcissus';
		// HACK: Set variable on window to use post message.
		window.disqus_use_postmessage = true;

		
		for(var prop in Dsq.Themes[theme]) {
			if(Dsq.Themes[theme] && Dsq.Themes[theme].hasOwnProperty(prop)) {
				Dsq.Templates[prop] = Dsq.Themes[theme][prop];
			}
		}
		
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12358169" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358169" class="dsq-comment-message">Father Time - I think the GOP women I mention have proven themselves, sometimes multiple times over, to be far more than GOP talking heads who adhere to strick ideology - it\'s part of why I think some of them would truly make great VP or presidential picks.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12358183">CStanley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358183" class="dsq-comment-message">I thought that Jodi Rell seemed pretty intriguing and wondered if McCain would consider tapping her. I presume several factors weighed against her though- she was probably too moderate to balance out McCain with the base of the party, and perhaps being older weighed against her due to McCain\'s age. I also noted, as you have, Jill, that CT voters seem to answer polls about her pretty approvingly yet the residents that I know seem somewhat unenthusiastic. Perhaps she lacks charisma and is seen as more of a work horse. That\'s actually my kind of candidate, but unfortunately celebrity seems to be more valued these days.<br><br>One thing I also noted in researching her background is that she never graduated from college. I wonder how THAT would have played out in national politics, given the thrashing that Palin took over her lack of Ivy League pedigree. It\'s funny but I personally never paid any attention to the alma mater of candidates because I\'ve (naively, I suppose) felt that our system was enough of a meritocracy that the many, many graduates of smaller or less prestigious universities could rise to the top in their careers. Now that the discussion has come up comparing Obama\'s representation of meritocracy as opposed to what Palin would have represented- it\'s the first time it\'s really occurred to me that all POTUSes since Reagan have been Ivy Leaguers. I wouldn\'t deliberately seek out a candidate who wasn\'t, but at the same time I hope that trend doesn\'t continue to the point of making the office into an exclusive one.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12327712">jwest</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327712" class="dsq-comment-message">Jill,<br><br>The one thing that the ’08 elections have taught us is that public office experience is not a factor for a Presidential candidate.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12324364">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12324364" class="dsq-comment-message">"Totally unacceptable."<br><br>I\'d say "unrepresentative," but have no fear, there are women who will run eventually, no doubt about it.<br><br>Prior to the Obama triumph on Super Tuesday, the smart money was on Clinton to win not only the Dem primary, but the general election, too.  As I was saying frequently, "Get ready to say it again -- \'President Clinton.\'"<br><br>In the 1980s, Jeane Kirkpatrick distinguished herself and she would have been great to succeed Reagan (even if she would have been the target of misogynistic attacks by NOW as well as other lefty groups).<br><br>Choosing Ferraro for VP in the past was baffling.  In L.A. we all asked, "Who is _she_?" as nobody had ever heard of her, as opposed to Dianne Feinstein from San Francisco, whom everybody knew of since Moscone and Milk were assassinated.<br><br>I presume with additional years of experience _and_ exposure, we\'ll see more female candidates emerge, just as we\'ll see more black, Hispanic, etc., candidates emerge for all kinds of leadership positions.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12325328">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12325328" class="dsq-comment-message">By the way, Jill, what\'s wrong with a token male as VP?  After all, not only does that reach out to the substantial male majority of GOP-leaning voters, but that\'s what Joe Biden has proven to be now as Obama\'s VP (including with foreign policy, for which he was primarily supposed to have been selected).</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12325401" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12325401" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree in part with your conclusion, "I presume with additional years of experience _and_ exposure, we\'ll see more female candidates emerge, just as we\'ll see more black, Hispanic, etc., candidates emerge for all kinds of leadership positions."<br><br>The part I don\'t agree with is the experience - there are POC and WOC and women who have the experience already - and Obama and Palin both contribute to the lowering of that bar. Now, it\'s a matter of political party structures and bias.  Ohio is actually a great state for observing in this regard - Jennifer Brunner v. Lee Fisher for Dem US Senate nomination.<br><br>I was at Georgetown during Kirkpatrick\'s tenure and I just don\'t believe she was ever much of a politician, so I didn\'t see it.  However, someone did mention to me today the suggestion of Condi Rice - I think she\'d make a great addition to the list I wrote, but I\'m not sure she\'s remotely interested in a elected, political career.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12325453" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12325453" class="dsq-comment-message">Smiling re: the token male.  Aw...I don\'t know - we\'ve had male-male tickets on the GOP side up until last year - I suggest they give it a rest for a few cycles. :)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12326283">jwest</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12326283" class="dsq-comment-message">Lynn Cheney ‘12</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12327088">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327088" class="dsq-comment-message">"re: the token male. Aw...I don\'t know [...] I suggest they give it a rest for a few cycles."<br><br><br>"UNACCEPTABLE!" -- Rush Limbaugh</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12327129">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327129" class="dsq-comment-message">"we\'ve had male-male tickets on the GOP side up until last year"<br><br>Almost the same record on the Demmie side.  Let them go first.  [grin]</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12327181" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327181" class="dsq-comment-message">DLS - I\'m all for the Dem side going first with the female-female ticket, but, it has been said, tho I don\'t know exactly why, that people think the GOP will be the first to run a woman as president.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12327193">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327193" class="dsq-comment-message">Palin-Coulter \'12   "Bring \'em on!"</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12327219" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327219" class="dsq-comment-message">Jwest - GREAT suggestion for an addition - Lynn Cheney - of course.  But - now - I have to look her up - has she run for anything yet?  I know, Meg Whitman hasn\'t. :)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12327567">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327567" class="dsq-comment-message">"people think the GOP will be the first to run a woman as president"<br><br>Not out of tokenism, either, but featuring a serious contender.  It\'s because women like Kirkpatrick, to name an older example again, where shown to not all kowtow to NOW extremism or other liberal-to-radical notions (which the Left implicitly demands women "should" support, to be a "real" woman, just as one has to be liberal and Democratic to be a "real" black, for example) and this radical element of U.S. liberalism that includes the worst parts of feminism repels many more voters than it attracts.  That there are women in the GOP, or are conservative, is largely a quiet progressive phenomenon, despite the more notorious examples in recent times like Ann Coulter (deliberate controversy and provocation for notoriety).</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12327666">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12327666" class="dsq-comment-message">"Lynn Cheney - of course. But - now - I have to look her up - has she run for anything yet?"<br><br>She was at NEH.  Now, imagine her today or Sarah Palin (gasp) as "Secretary of Culture."</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12328996">Ryan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12328996" class="dsq-comment-message">What if the Republican primary voters choose a male candidate who happens to think that the best VP candidate also happens to be a man?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12330879">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12330879" class="dsq-comment-message">Ryan -- that shows that the GOP, Republicans, non-liberals are "sexist," of course.  Just like they\'re "racist," especially if another white male happens to be selected.<br><br>Jill -- this is the best thread in days.  And it\'s not really about Palin (or Sanford or Michael Jackson).</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12331044">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12331044" class="dsq-comment-message">"public office experience is not a factor for a Presidential candidate"<br><br>2008:<br><br>1. Thumbs Down on the GOP<br><br>2. Barack Obama is attractive and charismatic!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12331566">Ryan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12331566" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, I\'m not going to say they\'re not sexist, although since it\'s traditional to discriminate against women that sorta makes it a conservative position by default.<br><br>Jill - usually when you complain about some group being predominantly or entirely male you at least pick one with a few more people. The all-male 2012 GOP ticket starts at 25% for complete randomness... and picking a national ticket is very, very nonrandom.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12333601">kritt11</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12333601" class="dsq-comment-message">Mary Cheney :-)</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12333793" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12333793" class="dsq-comment-message">Working backwards just because: Kritt11 - No argument from me! She\'s a mom AND has a same-sex orientation. :)</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12333868" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12333868" class="dsq-comment-message">Ryan - <br><br>I confess to a blonde moment - and I\'m blonde, so my apologies to myself and blondes.  I don\'t understand what you are getting at here: <br><br>"Jill - usually when you complain about some group being predominantly or entirely male you at least pick one with a few more people. The all-male 2012 GOP ticket starts at 25% for complete randomness... and picking a national ticket is very, very nonrandom."<br><br>I do object to the characterization of me as complaining, but that\'s minor.  Could be because it\'s late in the day, but what exactly are you saying? Sorry.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12333994" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12333994" class="dsq-comment-message">Ryan, in regard to this comment you left, "What if the Republican primary voters choose a male candidate who happens to think that the best VP candidate also happens to be a man?"<br><br>The voters should choose who the voters want. But you and I both know that the options offered will reflect decisions made at a few different levels at which there must be consideration of a broad range of options.  I\'m submitting that the eight or nine women I mentioned, plus Liz Cheney, Condi Rice and whomever else others come up with, also be considered.  People were lobbying for Palin long before many of us ever really knew anything about her.  So - I am starting early by putting a bee in people\'s bonnets and saying, don\'t forget - there are a lot of qualified potential GOP candidates for 2012\'s White House run, and at least several of them are women.<br><br>It\'s about priming the pump and filling the pipeline, Ryan, and then making sure that the decision makers who offer up the options for the voters to choose make choices that won\'t make voters roll their eyes.  Part of Palin\'s appeal was her being a woman - McCain said it and we all knew it.  So - why not again?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12334093" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12334093" class="dsq-comment-message">Jwest - if I didn\'t say it in this thread, I must have elsewhere but I agree that the bar has perceivedly been lowered re: experience.  McCain did that by giving up the argument against Obama when he brought on Palin.  It never became an effective argument against Obama once Palin was on the ticket.  I think that\'s a huge mistake - and I wrote about that long before Obama became the nominee (you may recall, I was not an Obama supporter during the primary and continue to be less than thrilled with him in general).<br><br>I don\'t think we\'ve seen the end of the debate over the role of experience just because McCain made a mistake (in my estimation, a mistake).</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12334155">sinistarx</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12334155" class="dsq-comment-message">My state\'s (Washington) Governor is Christine Gregoire.  :)  <br><br>The GOP would likely be first to the plate with a female candidate, as they do need a big distraction to swing things back to them, and an all-star white male ticket won\'t cut it.<br><br>I fear that the pool of candidates is small.  Finding a female candidate that has the qualities of (if not actual experience) leadership, is teflon to scandal and has enough of the \'current\' conservative playbook but is appealing to the masses is going to be hard to discover.  Like with Gov Palin, we will get someone who is 1 of these and have a PR machine that will distract us with slick, well-produced propaganda to browbeat us into supporting her.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12334261" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12334261" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m really really REALLY going to take issue with your implication that "The Left" "implicitly demands women "should" support, to be a "real" woman" "NOW extremism or other liberal-to-radical notions."<br><br>That\'s never been my experience - never.  I am not now nor have I ever been a member of any feminist group and I\'ve voted Dem FAR more often than GOP.<br><br>What "worst parts of feminism" are you even contemplating when you say "this radical element of U.S. liberalism that includes the worst parts of feminism repels many more voters than it attracts?<br><br>I mean - really - I think you\'ve got some old notions that women themselves, who consider themselves working for women\'s rights or issues or leadership or strength just don\'t hold.  And those that do, make a far smaller proportion than I think you think is out there.<br><br>But I\'d like more clarification - because I really don\'t see the observation you seem to have seen.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12334355" class="dsq-comment-message">Sinistarx - in addition to Gregoire, what do you think about some of the other names mentioned?  And, specifically, I think about them in comparison to the men that are being offered up, early as it is:<br><br>Huckabee, Romney, Jindal, Sanford still maybe?<br><br>Really - some of these women - they are amazing in what they\'ve accomplished.  I just don\'t see any of these guys being any better if at the same level.<br><br>What do you think?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12336073" class="dsq-comment-message">"What \'worst parts of feminism\' are you even contemplating when you say \'this radical element of U.S. liberalism that includes the worst parts of feminism repels many more voters than it attracts\'?"<br><br>The fake "sexist" and "sexism" charges levied at anyone and everything that the extremists don\'t like is one example of what repels so many people.  Also the attitude that to be an "authentic" woman you must be liberal and Democratic, and that of course non-liberal people and the GOP are "anti-female" [sic] (and of course, women who dare to be non-liberal or Republican are conspicuously not defended or subjected to the same attacks the radical lefties don\'t reserve merely for non-liberal men).<br><br>The extremist, radical, as well as too-blatantly ideological and political parts, Jill, in other words.<br><br>An contemporary example of related poor behavior, but more so in this case an object of scorn and laughter at their expense (even if they\'re unable to grasp that), not loathing or outrage, is this notorious little tirade after Kennedy chose to endorse Obama rather than Clinton last year:<br><br><a href="http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_012808.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_012808.html</a><br><br>I was going to direct you to Feminista to show you what the militant feminists look like, the "animal welfare" equivalent of the worst of PETA, but apparently "www.feminista.com" is no longer alive and unwell.<br><br>* * *<br><br>"I think you\'ve got some old notions that women themselves"<br><br>I freely confess to the foregoing in a truly _literal_ sense.  That is to say, I\'m among those who were sold all along on the earlier, decent, geniune, pre-radicalism-and-blatant-political nonsense associated with not only women\'s rights but civil rights (I\'ve never been racist or sexist).  Yes, my "old" (non-PC-enough) notion is (how a _good_ bumper sticker put it when I saw it in Seattle) the amazing conception that women are PEOPLE!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12336222" class="dsq-comment-message">"I really don\'t see the observation you seem to have seen"<br><br>You might also believe the ACLU is apolitical and defends all rights equally, Jill, even though that organization is obviously liberal and political and selective, and has made the letter "C" in the acronym frequently be claimed to stand for "Cafeteria" (for its selectivity, i.e., its hypocrisy) if not "Communist" by its many detractors.<br><br>It\'s kind of like so many who encounter the obviously liberal media and deny there is any liberal bias (like denying the roundness rather than "objective" flatness of the earth).</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12337512" class="dsq-comment-message">Jillmz- Well, Gov. Gregoire really has that job via 2 very contentious elections, with election fraud being the central argument thrown at both sides.  I\'m not sure that her performance to date warrants an elevation to the national level, nor do I think she has distinguished herself in the Democratic Party to be considered.<br><br>Comparing her to the likes of Huckabee, et.al, I\'d say she is about average.  No personal scandals that have come to light, but politically has had the advantage of a majority Democratic Legislature to get things done.  Honestly, I think that since we live in a State that hasn\'t met a tax it doesn\'t like, the GOP has had its hands full keeping this state business friendly.<br><br>I would lean towards a Governor that has faced political hardship and succeeded in lifting their State\'s profile in the categories that matter:low unemployment, low crime, high production, good transportation network, heavy tourism, and so on.<br><br>I fully expected John McCain to tap Kay Bailey Hutchinson over Sarah Palin for the VP nod, as she would have brought stability to the ticket and didn\'t have the baggage that the other female contenders had.  She actually might be the candidate to beat in 2016, but not sure if her profile will be raised enough (or the GOP reassembled) for 2012.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12342178" class="dsq-comment-message">"Honestly, I think that since we live in a State that hasn\'t met a tax it doesn\'t like, the GOP has had its hands full keeping this state business friendly."<br><br>(NOTE: See remark at bottom as well as this response here.)<br><br>That\'s no different than when I was there (1992-6).  It\'s no surprise that Boeing was looking at relocating its future assembly work to Wichita -- you realize that, don\'t you?  Or why numerous people register their vehicles in other states?  (NOTE: This also applies to California, which also is business-unfriendly and has exported many people as well as jobs, as I can attest, as well as to other business-unfriendly states.)<br><br>The big question will be, will such problems (and related ones, like environmental activism and extremism) be compounded by similar activities by the Dems in Washington?  The climate bill is ugly...<br><br>* * *<br><br>"Mary Cheney"<br><br>If not President or VP, certainly a Cabinet or other federal post if her experience qualifies her for this, which could be part of a stairway toward the VP or Presidential position eventually...<br><br>* * *<br><br>"She\'s a mom AND has a same-sex orientation."<br><br>Jill, are these things pluses (or should-be\'s) for a candidate, or more "position gap"-filling attributes?<br><br>(When I hear "a mom" I think of Patty Murray, from Washington, in the Senate.)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12352001" class="dsq-comment-message">Any idea about women serving as Lt. Gov. or AG in their states?  No reason why it has to be the top spot. Women in the House could also choose to run - though I think the last President who came from the House was Gerald Ford, and his route was a one-time deal.  Of course, it might be that the next President won\'t even hold office until the mid-term elections.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12357200" class="dsq-comment-message">RE: DLS after my last comment before a batch of other comments:<br><br>Okay - this is a helpful clarification.  Yeah - I don\'t pay too much attention to extremes on either end unless they really prevent me from pursuing issues that are important to me.  Observe, notice, flag but then leave it alone. Because the reality is, just as with moderate conservatives, those of us more in the mainstream rather than the radical end you perceive need to make that mainstream or at least reasonable visage more obvious and promiment.  Taking time to bellyache about the rabid people is wasteful - IMO.<br><br>Sadly, this post wouldn\'t be necessary or even generating comments if the reality was that women were always perceived as just people.  But they haven\'t been and so this is where we are.  My state rep recently said that as a conservative GOP candidate for state treasurer, he wants to take back America to where the founding fathers wanted it.<br><br>That idea is absolutely vile to me - slavery? women with no vote? And so on.  Just cannot accept that.  But there\'s no need to go banshie on it either.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12357292" class="dsq-comment-message">DLS re: comment that mentions ACLU:<br><br>We\'re going to have to agree to disagree here. The ACLU can\'t be knocked as liberal when you\'ve got a SCOTUS whose 5-4 decisions this year in particular show a huge amount of activism (I\'m thinking in particular about cases like the one about age discrimination - did you read that one? It\'s shameful IMO what they did to precedent).<br><br>I really, again, just live with the ACLU.  The represent people I abhor and they represent issues which, if no one else raised a ruckus, would irreparably alter the freedom we have in this country.  They\'re a group I\'m very glad exists but with which I definitely don\'t always agree.  <br><br>You are very comfortable, it seems, in calling this "liberal" or "radical" or whatever - labeling. I prefer to describe what I feel they do or don\'t do - labels are of very limited value when you\'re trying to decide what\'s got value and what doesn\'t, IMO.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12357387" class="dsq-comment-message">Sinistarx:<br><br>This is a great standard or criteria to consider when considering who we would want to be a leader or president: <br><br>"I would lean towards a Governor that has faced political hardship and succeeded in lifting their State\'s profile in the categories that matter:low unemployment, low crime, high production, good transportation network, heavy tourism, and so on."<br><br>100% agree.  I guess the tougher question is, why don\'t we then follow through and analyze for that? :)  I would say it\'s that liberal media bias, but I don\'t actually believe that. :)<br><br>I agree w/you on McCain and Hutchison too - I thought she would have been SUCH a smart pick!  Truly.  I said at the time of the Palin pick that it was a horrible miscalculation of the electorate and I think many more people would have had a harder time choosing between the two tickets if he\'d had someone like Hutchison.<br><br>The sensationalism that seems to govern the candidate campaign season is just so upsetting to me - I know we know better, but we just keep doing it.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358124" class="dsq-comment-message">Good. Let the GOP run an all woman ticket. They will fail to win.<br><br>It is much easier to pick apart the GOP Social Darwinist arguments publicly from women whom state they believe in them.....because they really don\'t.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358233" class="dsq-comment-message">ThurmanHart: Sure! Those would be great too - especially AG (being a lawyer myself I would love to see more women become AGs).  You are absolutely correct re: trying to raise the proportions across the board in terms of elected officeholders.<br><br>I do think that in addition to Clinton and Palin\'s presence helping crack the ceiling a bit more, we also see that you can run for VP or Prez from a variety of other positions or backgrounds - I think it\'s crucial to breaking whatever powerful political networks exist that keep people from getting "in" and running successfullly, that we recognize skills and qualities, and not just titles.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358275" class="dsq-comment-message">Just a quick side point to the one that DLS made about extremism and litmus tests among feminists, Jill- one thing I\'ve noticed even among less extreme liberal feminists is that the prochoice position appears to be part of the orthodoxy. It\'s quite common in my experience to hear or see Democrat females or feminists say that conservative women are not representing women\'s issues if they have a prolife stance. I think that\'s something that has changed (for the worse, in my opinion) in the feminist movement in my lifetime- I believe that there used to be room for both prolife and prochoice positions but now the \'abortion rights\' position appears to be dogmatic to many feminists.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358366" class="dsq-comment-message">CStanley - nice to see a comment from you here. :) I hope you are well.<br><br>Yeah - isn\'t that interesting about Rell re: the enthusiasm gap so to speak? I totally sense the same thing and cannot figure it out, but it does seem to be very real (the gap that is).<br><br>About the education thing - well, that\'s one reason several of the women I list are so intriguing too - because they do not come from Ivy Leagues yet they show just how successful and tough and persistent they\'ve been.  I do notice, as I have before and as I\'ve read somewhere, that the GOP female leaders or succeeders if you will tend to come from business - hey, was it you who said that to me once!? :)<br><br>And that seems to be true about some of the women I\'ve named - Liz Cheney, Meg Whitman I think of right away.<br><br>Basically, given the expansion of experiences/background of our population, it only makes sense that the leaders we select reflect that.  BUT...that doesn\'t mean we pick just anyone - it should never mean that, with extremely rare exceptions which I can\'t at the moment think of. lol</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358646" class="dsq-comment-message">CStanley re: your second comment re: side point to DLS comment:<br><br>Yeah, you know, I\'ve never been a staunch member of any movement but I do understand what you\'re describing.  I\'ve experienced that as an issue related to individual privacy rights, the government being allowed to supplant its interests for a woman\'s and so on.  These are, after all, some of the reasons why the legal underpinnings of Roe have been challenged.<br><br>So maybe the focus has changed?  Not sure.  I would never say and I do not believe that women who prefer small govt, lower taxes and the 2nd Amendment (just as examples, promise) don\'t represent women if they also have a pro-life stance.<br><br>BUT - they definitely have, IMO, a kind of split personality when it comes to individual rights and who gets to make which decisions for us.  This extends to usual conservative opinion on the death penalty (supporting it) while still being pro-life over an embryo.<br><br>The issue is complicated by it being backed up to religion and moral assessments of human life, as well as who governs us.<br><br>And, despite all these nuances, spin and campaign tactics and media presentation try to reduce it to sound bites and good and evil and all that.  I tend to be big on pushing the existence and importance of nuance, no matter how it complicates matters.  But as soon as we give up on that, everything is susceptible to being collapsed as you describe it.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12358768" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>I do notice, as I have before and as I\'ve read somewhere, that the GOP female leaders or succeeders if you will tend to come from business - hey, was it you who said that to me once!? :)</i><br><br>Heh, yeah, I think that was me.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12359003" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>BUT - they definitely have, IMO, a kind of split personality when it comes to individual rights and who gets to make which decisions for us.</i><br><br>BUT- the \'split\' is logically defensible if one considers the fetus as a second person involved in the situation, a person with right to life which would supercede other rights of the other person involved. I appreciate people who might not agree with that stance but can see the rationale for it, and that\'s the kind of respect which seems to be lacking in so many quarters today. Obviously abortion is a divisive issue with strong emotional overtones, but I find it most distressing that it is so divisive particularly among women (kind of an offshoot of the divisiveness about motherhood in general if you know what I mean- the way that career women are sometimes unable to applaud mothers who stay at home to raise kids and vice versa for those on the mommy track to give kudos to the women who juggle both roles.)<br><br>I wonder why women seem to view the choices of other women as judgemental toward their own choices, you know? It\'s a shame we can\'t all appreciate the difficulties of the unique choices and decisions that our gender faces and feel confident about the indvidual choice we each make without having to invalidate or repudiate the other options which may be best for other women and families.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12359466" class="dsq-comment-message">Cool re: CStanley was the one who said something to me and I remembered! lol</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12359519" class="dsq-comment-message">Oh, one more quick aside since you briefly mentioned the death penalty. It\'s true that more self-identified conservatives support it than do self-identified liberals, but the difference is not that overwhelming- IOW, it\'s not really clearly defined as a right vs. left position as you might think. Here\'s the most recent data I could find:<br><a href="http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/gallup-poll-who-supports-death-penalty" rel="nofollow">http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/gallup-poll-who...</a><br><br>Personally I\'m opposed to it (and I do personally agree that that\'s the consistent prolife position, though I can also respectfully disagree with those who feel that abortion takes innocent lives while the death penalty takes the life of the guilty.) I also think I\'ve personally encountered more liberals and left leaning moderates who support the death penalty than I have conservatives, though it doesn\'t always come up in conversation and I may be underestimating the number of conservative friends and acquaintances who are in favor of it.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12359590" class="dsq-comment-message">to CStanley re: why women view choices of other women as judgemental toward their own:<br><br>Well, I think this is a confounding and conflated issue that is really hard to untangle.  The first thing that came to my mind was the fact that pro-life groups want to say that it\'s not about the choices or the judgment, it\'s about murder and killing and unborn lives and the sanctity of life - at least, that is how I interpret that, from what I\'ve heard - not what I personally believe or feel.<br><br>And so then it\'s the pro-choice women who either 1) might feel that a judgement is being made on them making a choice to abort or provide that choice for women who want that choice or 2) feel strongly that the government shall not abridge the right protected in Roe for a woman to make this decision, as a result of the courts finding a right to privacy in making this decision.<br><br>So - I kind of see the pro-life side as disrespecting the law of the land, right or wrong though they may feel that law is, by pro-life individuals in the name of wanting to prevent murder - not just "judge" the choices of other women.<br><br>Do you know what I mean?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12359626" class="dsq-comment-message">Re: Death penalty comment from CStanley - I don\'t think I actually know anyone who has ever told me that they support the death penalty, but I haven\'t outright asked that many people.  The people with whom the topic has come up I believe are all against it.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12360297">CStanley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12360297" class="dsq-comment-message">Jill- I understand why abortion is divisive in that way- I meant that I\'m more confounded by the divisiveness of issues of motherhood/childrearing. I think if there were more mutual respect for those choices, it would be a sort of foundation for respect on the harder issues like abortion.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12360504" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12360504" class="dsq-comment-message">Re: CStanley comment on respecting choices: Maybe. I\'m not sure.  I\'d agree that starting anywhere re: giving space and respect would be a good thing when it comes to those issues.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12381587">Ryan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12381587" class="dsq-comment-message">Jill - you\'ve previously commented on things like the reconciliation committee for some bill (stimulus?) which had 10 members, all men. With something like that, it would indeed be highly unlikely to be that skewed with a random selection, even though the process was undoubtedly not random. If there are only two people involved then it\'s much more likely that a completely unbiased process would produce an all-male ticket.<br><br>Also, filling the pipeline is probably a useful metaphor, but keep in mind that the pipe is a lot longer than one election cycle. Equality can take a while to produce visible results.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12385735">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12385735" class="dsq-comment-message">Jill,<br><br>1. 49 comments so far.  I told you that this is the best thread in quite a while (as measured, at least, by the number of comments it has attracted).<br><br>2. Judicial activism is a term that is quite clear, and doesn\'t merit being used if a courts\' decisions merely aren\'t what you want (not liberal enough, or not liberal frequently enough).  True critics such as I of the illegitimate practice know the difference between correct use of the term and misuse of the term, be it out of ignorance, to seek dimunition of the term\'s effect when correctly used, to confuse, or elsewise.<br><br>3. I deliberately chose not to comment on something, as I occasionally do in order to let others mention it first, and it has been mentioned now: abortion.  Even those of us moderates and even those who truly are conservative who support abortion rights are repelled by the extremist, militant, and worse stance that is frequently taken by feminist groups, far out of the mainstream (government should provide abortion to all, even minors, demanding no parental consent or even notification, etc; blind, maniacal devotion to and defense of Roe v. Wade, which was an obvious truly activist ruling by the Supreme Court; pro-abortion, as-militant-as-possible "litmus test" along with absolute acceptance of Roe v. Wade for any candidate Justice of the Supreme Court, etc.), as well as the accompanying dishonesty and slander about people who oppose such extremism, and its frequently accompanying dishonesty and slander of such people that they are "anti-woman" [sic], with the implicit presumption that the militant extremists define what is the "true" [sic] position of and for women.  This also goes for other occasional farther-left "causes" on which "authentic" women are expected to hold the (politically) "correct" position, such as the "comparable worth" cause.<br><br>4. I could also have added yesterday the bizarre phenomenon in academia of what is claimed to be "scholarship" related to feminism (and women\'s studies), which is a combination of schizoid word-and-phrase-salad psycho-babble and predictable adherence to a radical (sometimes militant and extremist) left-wing political ideology, along with related excursions into an alternative universe, claiming, similar to what the Afro-centrist kooks* have, that conventional, "establishment" science as well as the economy and society are "patriarchal," wrongly contrived (typically to "dominate" or "suppress" women, minorities, etc.-- Evil Western Culture) and there are legitimate alternative female versions of these, that in fact are superior), and that people should be "discovering" patriarchal "privilege" [sic] everywhere and feeling guilty about it and flagellating themselves to atone for this -- but I didn\'t mention it earlier because these people truly are fringists and ordinarily don\'t merit attention.  However, they are part of feminism\'s true baggage.<br><br>* Birds of a feather -- PC-lockstep far-left types.  Same "problems," same "solutions" -- quite typical.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12386009">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12386009" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12386009" class="dsq-comment-message">"Sadly, this post wouldn\'t be necessary or even generating comments if the reality was that women were always perceived as just people. But they haven\'t been and so this is where we are."<br><br>But what is it that feminists want now (or demand, or dogmatically "require", as C. Stanley put it so well?)  Why substitute "well-to-the-left-of-the-public-as-well-as-often-blatantly-partisan-Democrat" for "people"?<br><br>(Note: This applies to other leftist groups in the Democratic Party camp, like black Americans.  The Democratic Party and liberalism in this country isn\'t merely "inclusive" but demands ideological, political, and often blatantly partisan dogma as credentials of these "people\'s" _authenticity_, in their view.)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12386217" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12386217">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12386217" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12386217" class="dsq-comment-message">"The ACLU can\'t be knocked as liberal when you\'ve got a SCOTUS whose 5-4 decisions this year in particular show a huge amount of activism "<br><br>I\'ll just note that in addition to misusing "activism" here too freely and loosely, this was a logical goof of the first order.  What matters is the nature of the ACLU; it\'s irrelevent what you may believe, true or otherwise, about the behavior of other parties.  (Also, even if the current Court _were_ activist, that is in no way a logical or ethical or any other kind of defense of the ACLU.)  And we know the nature of the ACLU.  (Like other parties such as unions, it\'s effective a left-Democratic auxiliary.)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12386319" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12386319">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12386319" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12386319" class="dsq-comment-message">"You are very comfortable, it seems, in calling this \'liberal\' or \'radical\' or whatever - labeling. I prefer to describe what I feel they do or don\'t do"<br><br>I do both at the same time.  The "labels" are accurate descriptors, not mere nomenclature devoid of anything in addition to their character elements.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12388758" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12388758" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12388758">Ryan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12388758" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12388758" class="dsq-comment-message">Maybe the reason the ACLU is a "left-Democratic auxiliary" is that conservatives don\'t care about civil liberties.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12394034" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12394034" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12394034" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12394034" class="dsq-comment-message">Ryan @10:30am today:<br><br>Got it - thank you.<br><br>Re: the pipeline metaphor - well....she said with a smile.  This is the whole thing! Palin and Obama (and others, esp. if you read The Fix and his article today about how hard a time the White House and Rahm are having recruiting people) demonstrate that that assumption about how a long the pipe might be re: # of election cycles is totally up for grabs. I, personally, think that that is NOT necessarily a good thing. But I also think it shows how we should ALWAYS be looking at candidates on a case by case basis - different things take different lengths of time to mature/ripen - political candidates/politicians may or may not be any different, don\'t you think?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12394312" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12394312" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12394312" class="dsq-comment-message">To DLS @ 12:22pm today -<br><br>Hmm. I\'ll think about these points. The re-emphasize your previous comments, but I\'m not sure I agree or disagree anymore or less with you on them.  For ex., sure - we\'ve come to think that judicial activism is a term of art, but a la Frank Luntz and many others, such terms have come up for grab.  Sometimes I like that, sometimes I don\'t.  Activism in and of itself is nonpartisan, IMO.  Which is to say, I think the concept of Judicial activism has been irreparably altered specifically by this Roberts Court.  That might come to be one of its hallmarks, really. <br><br>And kind of like conservative women embracing their own brand of feminism.  There are just a lot of phrases up for grabs, and not being a lover of labels, I find that to be natural and interesting, but also dangerous.<br><br>The whole thing about feminism, abortion, academia - I don\'t related to what you\'re expressing. I understand what you\'ve written, but it\'s just not something I think about much at all - it involves a very tiny portion of individuals and I would not want to overstate the influence.  That is, of course, just my opinion/feeling about it.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12394358" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12394358" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12394358" class="dsq-comment-message">To DLS @12:28 -<br><br>You are going to have to ask someone else - I don\'t speak for "feminists" as you see them. I don\'t know what more to tell you.  I\'m just not the right person to respond to that question.  I would urge you to not label and compartmentalize so much but again, just IMO.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12394460" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12394460" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12394460" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12394460" class="dsq-comment-message">@DLS 12:33 <br><br>I disagree and I\'m happy to throw down my JD/MSW dual licensure as a lawyer and social worker. I stand by my opinion and I disagree with your position.  Nothing personal.  I just completely disagree.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12394575" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12394575" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12394575" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12394575" class="dsq-comment-message">@DLS 12:36<br><br>Yeah, again, I will disagree w/you here.  There\'s no such thing as an accurate label unless all the people using it - speaking it and hearing it - agree on what it represents.  And that\'s just not the case with several of the labels you\'ve used.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12394639" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12394639" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12394639" class="dsq-comment-message">@Ryan "40 minutes ago" (that\'s what it says as I type this!)<br><br>That\'s a great perspective re: the ACLU.  I do actually feel that they protect civil liberties all along the spectrum, but I like what you wrote because you open the window on the nuance of how civil liberties are perceived, defined and, ugh - I can\'t believe I\'m writing this - labeled. :)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12398766" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12398766" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12398766">Ryan</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12398766" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12398766" class="dsq-comment-message">They might protect civil liberties all along the spectrum but if they\'re involved then it tends to mean that someone is infringing on another\'s civil liberties. Now consider conservative attitudes towards gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. Who do you suppose is going to get the short end of the stick?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12400183" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12400183" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12400183" class="dsq-comment-message">Ryan - well - I just haven\'t reviewed enough cases of theirs lately - I tend to watch for religion and youth-related cases but otherwise don\'t monitor regularly.  I think we need to be careful and not push something that seems to be a common perception that, in fact, might not be. I\'d be persuaded by stats etc but I don\'t really know, beyond the meme kind of thing pushed about the ACLU. (I\'m going a bit easy on them because I do know people who work for the ACLU and frankly, one of them, a Harvard grad, is very conservative so...I just wouldn\'t be as sure as you are.)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12432232" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12432232">GaryJohnson2012</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12432232" class="dsq-comment-message">Mary Fallin - Lynn Cheney  - 2016</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12446937" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12446937" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12446937">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12446937" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12446937" class="dsq-comment-message">"There\'s no such thing as an accurate label unless all the people using it - speaking it and hearing it - agree on what it represents."<br> <br>I made accurate statements of fact, and the "labels" (or whatever other name you may wish to substitute in place of "terms") are accurate if they are clear and correct, which they are.  I suppose in a rare or odd case you could raise an example, such as demanding a specific wavelength to officially define a specific color, but that\'s carrying things to rare and odd extremes, and is exceptional, not the norm.<br><br>Funny you mention agreement, as it is applicable to the (real) problem of judicial activism.<br><br>"And that\'s just not the case with several of the labels you\'ve used."<br><br>Well, if some would insist that "red" mean green instead, (which is a valid analogy to judicial activism, substuting one\'s own views and wishes for what was intended and agreed on, and what may correctly may be inferred from this or retroactively applied to it, and having judges rather than the legislature state what a law _should_be_), I really don\'t think that matters, Jill.  Unanimity obviously is never required to define a term.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12446986" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12446986">DLS</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12446986" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12446986" class="dsq-comment-message">" I don\'t speak for \'feminists\' as you see them."<br><br>There are no alternative "visions."  The extremists characterize and taint contemporary feminism.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12447131" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12447131" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12447131">DLS</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12447131" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12447131" class="dsq-comment-message">"I think the concept of Judicial activism has been irreparably altered specifically by this Roberts Court"<br><br>It\'s not like past decades, thank goodness.  And Sotomayor, controversy and all, isn\'t that threatening.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12447286" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12447286" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12447286">DLS</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12447286" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12447286" class="dsq-comment-message">"Maybe the reason the ACLU is a \'left-Democratic auxiliary\' is that conservatives don\'t care about civil liberties."<br><br>Plenty of suitable people also have been led to believe the "Conservatives are anti-science" myth, a more common and useful current political weapon and rationalization for Democratic politics and policies.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12509800" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12509800" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12509800" class="dsq-comment-message">DLS - we\'re really veering apart at this point on the comments you\'re quoting and commenting on.  That\'s the value of a blog, but my prior reflections in this thread about those assertions you\'re making reflect my opinion still.</div>\
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		if(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Firefox") != -1) {
			if(window.frames['dsq-reply-frame']) {
				window.frames['dsq-reply-frame'].location = Dsq.Urls.REPLY + (new Date()).getTime() + '&f=themoderatevoice&t=gop_can_field_all_female_2012_white_house_ticket_wout_palin&to_redirect=' + encodeURIComponent(window.location) + '&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
			}
		}
	}

	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			Dsq.Realtime.initialize();
		}
	}

	



	window.ExecuteWhen = (function () {
	var obj = {}
	
	// Private
	var running = false;
	var timer = null;
	var pending = [];
	var startTimer = function() {
		running = true;
		timer = setInterval(obj.heartBeat, 100);
	};
	var stopTimer = function() {
		running = false;
		clearInterval(timer);
	};
	
	// Public
	obj.add = function (condition, code) {
		pending.push([condition,code]);
		this.heartBeat(); //!
		if (!running) {
			startTimer();
		}
	};
	obj.heartBeat = function() {
		if (!pending.length) {
			stopTimer();
		}
		var newPending = [];
		for (var i=0; i<pending.length; i++) {
			var cond = pending[i][0];
			var code = pending[i][1];
			// FIXME: if cond or code throw an error, they never get removed from pending
			if (cond()){
				code();
			}
			else {
				newPending.push([cond, code]);
			}
		}
		pending = newPending;
	};
	return obj;
})();

// also used in embed_thread.js:
window.fbIsReady = function () {return window.FB && FB.init;};
// NOTE: This script gets executed again without threadEl
//       set when we are loaded again as the fbc_receiver.
//       In this case, we don't need the hidden container.

if(!window.FB || !FB.init) {
	if(window.Dsq && Dsq.container) {
		// container is not present when init.js is loaded from an xd-receiver iframe; in this case,
		// we don't need the FB_HiddenContainer anyway.
		var fbDiv = document.createElement('div');
		fbDiv.id = "FB_HiddenContainer";	// Required or else FeatureLoader will execute a document.write.
		fbDiv.style.position = 'absolute';	// This is intentionally not setting display to none as this breaks
		fbDiv.style.top = '-10000px';		// Flash in Safari.
		fbDiv.style.left = '-10000px';
		fbDiv.style.width = '0px';
		fbDiv.style.height = '0px';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(fbDiv);
	}
	var fbJS = document.createElement('script');
	fbJS.type = "text/javascript";
	fbJS.src = "http://static.ak.connect.facebook.com/js/api_lib/v0.4/FeatureLoader.js.php";
	document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(fbJS);

	ExecuteWhen.add(window.fbIsReady,
		function () {
			// HACK: This is a workaround FBC's single domain limitation by
			//		 allowing sites to create multiple forums with different
			//		 Facebook API keys.  This must be used in conjunction with
			//		 disqus_facebook_forum (see authenticateFacebook).
			var facebook_api_key = '8e626a1cbe92745e5f4435bb28791555';
			if (typeof disqus_facebook_api_key != 'undefined') {
				facebook_api_key = disqus_facebook_api_key;
			}

			FB.init(facebook_api_key, window.facebookXdReceiverPath || null,
				{fetchSignedPublicSessionData: true});
		});
}


	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

// Global event handler for narcissus.
if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
	var g = Dsq.Utils.ie ? document : window;
	Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(g, 'keydown', function(event) {
		// Handle "enter" key on input for post box.
		if ((event.keyCode || event.which) == 13) {
			var target = Dsq.Utils.ie ? event.srcElement : event.target;
			// For Safari bug, detect text node.
			if (target.nodeType == 3) {
				target = target.parentNode;
			}

			if (target.nodeName == 'INPUT' &&
				target.parentNode.className == 'dsq-input-wrapper') {
				var postId = Dsq.Utils.extractId(target);
				Dsq.Templates.postComment(postId, this, false);
			}
		}
	});
}

})();




