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It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies...\"</i> - Lord Thomas MacCauley", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_10:25:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11724168": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Casualobserver--<br><br>People who don't drive still pay taxes that support roads.<br><br>The childless still pay taxes that support schools. <br><br>Vegetarians still pay taxes that support cattle farmers. <br><br><A HREF=\"http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/george-f-will-admits-public-option-will.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Nate Silver</A> has a good post on the pragmatic argument I support in the matter of health care.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_10:30:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11733001": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "DLS<br><br>I'll stand by my original statement.  The current system suffers from year over year cost increases while the number of uninsured who present at Emergency Rooms also increases.  These uninsured costs are covered in ever higher medical costs going forward.<br><br>Predicting human frailty does not require a genome project, everybody eventually gets sicks and dies.  Every time I hear people say they want to join a \"low risk\" insurance group, I can't help by laugh.  Insurance companies thrive on the naive assumption that health is anything but temporal.  They'll catch you later when you're old or just unfortunate.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:42:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "HemmD", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11730834, "depth": 0, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11725962": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "casual: You want to keep your money. Kathy wants to not die. Of course, we're already assuming that she's sick and you're not. Suppose the opposite - you are suffering from an expensive but curable disease. You can't pay for it - are you going to shrug and go coffin-shopping?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_11:00:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "Tenek", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11722914, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722123": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Jason considers disagreement with him a personal attack.<br><br>I'd guess you'll all see it soon enough.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:42:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 12, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11741196": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "GeorgeSorwell and SteveK,<br><br>Whatever I have done to make you hate me so much, I apologize for.  Hopefully, we can set these issues aside and start over in the interests of a real discussion.  I have dedicated three posts to this discussion already, including one specifically in response to George's comment.  Hopefully, you can take this effort as an indication of good faith on my part.<br><br>P.S.  All commenter bans at PoliGazette have been lifted.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_16:23:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11747213": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<blockquote>I can take care of THAT! ;)</blockquote><br><br>Only the greatest comment in the history of the Moderate Voice!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_18:17:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11742147, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11712782": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "This is why the the prevailing view of \"compromise\" is flawed to begin with.  If the definition is just finding a middle ground between two extremes, then that just pushes the two extremes farther apart, to the point where neither side really believes in their proposals but are just advancing them in order to get the optimal \"compromise\" for themselves.<br><br>How about this.  Let's just debate over what works and what doesn't.  Let's not get caught up in the \"well, you got two things you wanted, and I only got one thing, so this plan isn't fair.\"  Let's debate the proposals, both in detail and overall, based on their merits.  But this is politics we're talking about, so I suppose that's not likely to happen.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_00:08:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "adelinesdad", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722385": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "What you're seeing from Jason here is what you're going to get over there.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:50:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11722204, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11730834": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\" the current system is also the death of the system.\"<br><br>You are incorrect.  However, it could move closer toward failure (\"death\") if we not only decode the genome but insurance companies use genetic information someday to predict and to routinely exclude vast numbers of people in the future from specific (if not general) medical care coverage because they have much better predictability of pre-existing conditions (which is how genetic predispositions will be viewed logically and actuarily), even applying this to existing (previously covered) people.  This has been anticipated for years, decades.<br><br>(It's kind of like Obama and Dems predictably dwarfing and greatly subsuming GOP deficits and debt into their own vastly greater deficits and debt.  And note that the Dems are irreponsibly rushing to push this health care public sector growth without any revelation or discussion of costs or how to pay for it.  Talk about exploiting the so very exploitable!)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_12:56:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11737748": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "AR<br><br>George's points, cribbed or original still are valid points.  Personal cost to cover society's needs are an acceptable part of of our society.  Or would you prefer the \"every man for himself\" theory of social Darwinism?<br><br>I certainly don't need Federal highways where you live, just near me....   Sounds kind of silly.<br><br>I don't need health insurance for other people, just me and mine......   same logic.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_15:29:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "HemmD", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11737206, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11725974": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Nate Silver's argument appears true until you think about the way he misperceives the role of profits.  He is implicitly treating them as what marxists call \"surplus value\" -- simply wasted money accumulated by the ruling class (in Silver's scenario, the insurance companies) for selfish ends.  This interpretation assumes that the profits are never used for any purpose other than the enrichment of the ruling class.<br><br>But when we recognize that profits serve two additional roles, this argument weakens severely.  Specifically, profits are used for investment, which is good for the overall economy.  The government can't do that because it must ultimately extract (either directly through taxation or parasitically through soaking up other investment capital by the sale of bonds) everything that it expends.  <br><br>Profits also serve as incentives to innovation and efficiency.  Government programs have a dreadful record of trying to recreate these incentives, as testified to by the shortages of available care and, in particular, available equipment infrastructure in single-payer systems like Canada and the UK.  This issue is consistently one that single-payer advocates avoid talking about at all costs because, I think, they don't have even the slightest idea how to answer it while maintaining their purist approach.<br><br>So while Nate Silver's post is a good example of the \"gotcha\" style of game-play that is popular for some reason in the blogosphere, it is not actually sound policy analysis because it fundamentally fails to engage with the interactive effects of the real-world economy of health care and government spending.<br><br><em>Cross posted in expanded form at <a href=\"http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/25/the-role-of-profits-in-health-care/\" rel=\"nofollow\">PoliGazette</a></em>.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_11:01:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11742410": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "AR<br><br>I knew the phraseology of \"afraid\" would go over like a lead balloon.  <br><br>\"Again,not the health care or health care provider I want for me, or my children and grandchildren.\"<br><br>That's my point, not providing a public option is not the same as making it mandatory.  The only people who gain from pushing that meme are the profit oriented private insurers.  If the public option is doomed to complete governmental chaos and skyrocketing costs, let it fail in the market.  I freely admit that I fear that private insurance is doomed to the same skyrocket going forward too.  <br><br>Their concern is not cost, it's profit.  That difference means that increasing costs make for ever larger contracts and ever larger profits.  If your margin is only 3%, wouldn't you want 3% of a hundred million over 3% of 75 million?  Their profits grow due to the upward climb.  Now that I find scary.<br><br>The way to cost containment is through establishing medical \"best practices\"  that help to eliminate defensive medicine.  Clearly, not running a test that symptoms do not warrant is expensive and wasteful.   I'd certainly like to see the end of frivolous law suits too.  We both know, however, some lawsuits are more than warranted.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_16:35:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "HemmD", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11739307, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11756062": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Their concern is not cost, it's profit. That difference means that increasing costs make for ever larger contracts and ever larger profits. If your margin is only 3%, wouldn't you want 3% of a hundred million over 3% of 75 million? Their profits grow due to the upward climb. Now that I find scary.\"<br><br>profit = income - cost.  So if cost goes up, how exactly does profit go up with it?  We're talking about insurance here.  If insurance has to pay more, profits go down.  They can try to recoup that loss by increasing premiums, but they can only do that to a point.  So it seems to me there is already a pretty good incentive to limit costs.  That's not to say we don't need changes to make controlling costs easier, and there certainly are aspects of the system were the incentives are skewed.  But I think the above statement is a gross simplification.<br><br>To address the original post, if Obama and the left had started with single payer, there would have been a backlash and the debate would have died like it did with Clinton.  Obama is a pragmatist.  By proposing something more moderate, he was able to get some of those on the other side on board right away (I'm not talking about politicians, I'm talking about the industry).  That will likely by the key to success.  So Obama compromised a little to start, and that triggered the industry to recognize it needed to compromise.  So neither side is starting with the \"whole\" loaf here.  As someone else said, the \"whole load\" on the right is not the current system, as the government is clearly very much involved in health care as it is.<br><br>If anyone cares, here's my plan:<br><br>1) Get rid of employer-based health plans<br>2) Regulate private insurers such that they cannot deny coverage, but they can adjust rates according to formulas they must publish (auto insurance companies must do this), and those formulas must be based on lifestyle choices that affect health, not on current health status.  For example, a smoker with lung cancer pays the same as a smoker without lung cancer, because the premium isn't based on the disease but the behavior.<br>3) Subsidize health coverage on a sliding scale for the poor, and pay for it by taxing insurance companies basd on the number of high-income person they insure.  Yes, this is re-distribution of income.  Yes, I'm a conservative, but I believe that the free market has flaws, especially with regards to healthcare and education.<br>4) Mandate insurance coverage.  A civilized nation can't turn away people who need care, so the only alternative is to require at least a very basic level of insurance for all.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_22:20:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "adelinesdad", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11738527": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "How about flood insurance, disaster response, and unemployment aid to States that can't afford to keep their own citizens alive, fed and cared for?<br><br>No one has said that a public plan would be cost free to those who pick it, you got to pay just like private insurance.  You're currently paying for the uninsured now; why are you afraid of that fact like you say you are about the public option?  <br><br>You can't believe the current system that charges us for the uninsured is the way you prefer it, do you?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_15:48:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "HemmD", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11738186, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722914": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Far be it from me to ever want to fall out of your good graces, George, but, you actually never provide any ideas for exchange. Your posts almost always fall into one of two categories: (1) simply a link to another person's ideas (aka Kattenburg/Stickings School of Journalism) or, (2) parsing another person's post into a contorted leading question all-too-obviously attempting a \"gotcha\" moment (aka \"trolling\").<br><br>To get the thread back on track and to implement \"idea exchange\", please provide us with a paragraph explaining why Kattenburg has an unalienable human right to have casualobserver pay Kattenburg's medical bills and how that does not simultaneously violate casualobserver's rights.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_10:07:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "casualobserver", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11721635": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm banned from Jason Arvak's site. <br><br>They're not exactly committed to the free exchange of ideas over there.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:26:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11730852": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "To everyone who thinks they'll get stuck with somebody else's medical bills--guess what? <br><br>You are already <A HREF=\"http://wecandobetter.org/learn_more/the_uninsured\" rel=\"nofollow\">getting stuck paying for the uninsured</A>:<br><blockquote># People without insurance use the most expensive source of care when they need it \u2013 the emergency room \u2013 which adds unnecessary costs to the health system.<br><br># The cost of care for the uninsured is shifted to people with insurance, in the form of higher premiums, co-pays and deductibles.<br><br># Through this cost shift, the average person with insurance pays about $100 per month to cover the cost of care for the uninsured.<br></blockquote><br><br>Also:<br><blockquote>The current structure of the US health care system results in higher taxes, lower wages, increased health care costs and, often the inability to get timely access to needed care. We have \"universal access\" but only through the emergency room, which is both expensive and inefficient.</blockquote>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_12:57:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11743653": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "No one from the health care industry has said anything to make me 'fear' the government morphing their 'option' into a 'mandatory'. The government has done that for them, all by itself. I do not trust Congress on this issue. Period.<br><br>And I still say the private insurance has a stronger incentive to reduce costs, because of the profit motive, than government bureaucracies.<br><br>We just fundamentally see the world differently on this.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_16:51:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11742410, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11744625": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "well, that's the first time that's ever happened.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_17:03:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "HemmD", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11743653, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11739307": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "HemmD - where did I say I was afraid of paying for the uninsured under a public option? I did talk about my fear of government inefficiencies running medical programs, and someone else started that part of the conversation, but that was more of one specific example being discussed than any major item of itself.<br><br>I thought I have been clear that my 'fears' are that this will become a mandatory program, not an option, over time; that will make the current cost structure seem like the good old days within a decade; it will decrease the quality of care for all but the poorest; it will reduce and retard innovation and new technologies; and it will effectively be the largest tax increase in history, and the creation of the largest federal agency in existence eventually (yes, larger than the Defense Department).<br><br>Again,not the health care or health care provider I want for me, or my children and grandchildren.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_16:05:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11738527, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11732396": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "GS  -<i>What's the alternative that will impose zero costs for them?</i><br><br>Why, there is none, of course. Well, I guess we could use your favorite method, and make the government directly reimburse hospitals. <br><br>And by the way, your initial point 2 was wrong. The increased costs are due to inflated charges TO the insurers, as they do not cover the costs of the uninsured, the hospitals themselves do (which is not limited to insurers - everyone who pays for medical services kicks in for those who the hospitals cannot recover from directly)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:29:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11731504, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11808046": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You're welcome George. Jason and I go back a long way... So far that I know him by his maiden name.<br><br>I'd have more to say on the topic except we (Mr. \"Avark\" [sic] and I) came to a PRIVATE agreement that we would not intrude on each others 'personal space' (internetually speaking) and that is why I have limited myself to a single comment on his recent  \"remarks\" here at TMV.<br><br>His latest personal ad hominem attacks on Kathy both here at TMV and on his censorial site (blanket amnesty... right!) and his smart assed remarks about me and my position may very well have nullified our offline agreement. Come on if you want Jason but you ought to think twice before you open it up again... I kept my OneNote copies of the ENTIRE thread in our last go round.<br><br>Note to TMV editors: I have waited until this thread was off the front page before responding to Jasons attack on my comment about him... If you take away his power to censor he has nothing and that's why I'm saddened that TMV has given him the ability to \"moderate\" (read censor) comments here... AGAIN. <br><br>Isn't it time to allow a coward and fool to be called a coward and a fool without having to fear that your comment will be \"<i>(Edited by a moderator)</i>\"?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-26_20:23:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "SteveK", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11736445, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11731504": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Austin Roth--<br><br>I believe that the government has made it illegal for emergency rooms to dump patients without insurance back onto the sidewalk. <br><br>What's the alternative that will impose zero costs for them?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:12:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11725878": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@JS & GS<br>LOL They even allow my comments over at the Poligazette. Do they do an occasional edit - yes. But a banning isn't usually permanent, unless you really go on a rant.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_10:58:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rudi", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11722204, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11731081": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "GS - and when you cut to the chase, those items you cite are required by Federal law (the first item is, and as private insurance is just that, for profit, they have to recoup the cost somewhere, as would the government if it was fully running health care).<br><br>So we can already see the effect of inefficient and poorly thought out Federal initiatives at work. And you want MORE of this?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:03:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11730852, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11719967": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "So one \"extreme\" is public programs,  what's the other end of the spectrum?  The wy things are now.<br><br>If we continue as it is, we'll be bankrupt in just a few years.  The current system guarantees year after year increases in costs and an ever increasing number of people who have no insurance that are paid by those who have insurance.  <br><br>We're constantly told that public options will be the death of Medicine, but what's not said is that the current system is also the death of the system.  Compromise starts with  a true definition of the current system, but the lobbyists of the medical industry never mention that unsustainable fact.<br><br>Personally, I'd like a refund of the money my insurance company is spending on lobbying.  It would be the first time my costs would have gone down.  Clearly, pocketing a few Senators is good business when 70% of the people want a public option.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_08:24:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "HemmD", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 4, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722172": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<blockquote>We periodically \"amnesty\" banned addresses so that few bans are actually permanent. </blockquote><br><br>They have to have periodic amnesties because they ban so many people.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:44:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11721940, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11719626": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Dr J--<br><br>When you complain about how unethical it is for us to stack up bills for our grandchildren, are you saying we should increase our taxes to pay our own bills?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_08:07:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11712216, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11724990": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Austin Roth--<br><br>I'm sure you remember the Jason era as fondly as I do.  Well played!<br><br>As for Maccauley, he died before they built the interstate.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_10:34:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11722445, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11742147": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>All commenter bans at PoliGazette have been lifted.</i><br><br>I can take care of THAT! ;)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_16:31:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11741196, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11720772": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "An option, yes:<br><br><i>72 percent of those questioned supported a government-administered insurance plan \u2014 something like Medicare for those under 65 \u2014 that would compete for customers with private insurers.</i><br><br>But the fear is that the 'option' will soon morph into a 'mandatory', and that is where support falls down:<br><br><i>77 percent said they were very or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their own care.</i>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:00:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11732598": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Austin Roth--<br><br>People who don't drive still pay taxes that support roads.<br><br>The childless still pay taxes that support schools.<br><br>Vegetarians still pay taxes that support cattle farmers. <br><br>There is nothing intuitively obvious to me that says it's better for the pool of <i>our money</i> to go to several private, profit-seeking companies whose policies impose extra costs on us.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:34:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11732127, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11730246": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Here's what Nate Silver has to say about profit and the insurance industry:   <blockquote>It's possible, certainly, that the profit motive in the insurance industry has driven more innovation than we're giving it credit for. But that isn't my bet, and it isn't George Will's: There's no obvious reason that the government couldn't provide more for less. And if we are wrong, we would find out soon enough: if the public option can't deliver more bang for the buck than private insurers, it wouldn't gain much market share from them, and Will will have nothing to worry about.</blockquote>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_12:43:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11725974, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11880136": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "SteveK -- Knock it off.  Your threatening comments cross the line.  Continue on this path and you will be banned from further comments on this site.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-29_08:23:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "pabel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11808046, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11738186": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "HemmD - but I reject the concept that health care insurance should be funded by the government; you don't. <br><br>Your logic only holds water if we start from the same position.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_15:40:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11737748, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11732127": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "GS - <i>The government would have an easier time recouping costs because it would have a larger pool</i><br><br>Indeed they do - our money.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:24:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11731285, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722445": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Hmm - this thread being 'hijacked' by GS and Jason. BAN THEM BOTH!!!<br><br>HA HA HA HA!<br><br>:)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:53:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11721940": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "George,<br><br>That is not true.  You were banned previously because you made repeated personal attacks and thread hijacks.  If you are willing to just avoid doing that, your comments are welcome.  In fact, I don't know if you are still banned.  We periodically \"amnesty\" banned addresses so that few bans are actually permanent.  I don't know your email address, so I can't verify your status, but if you contact me by the email link, I can check and I can rescind any current bans for people who are willing to just stay on-topic and civil.<br><br>The way I see it, rules that prohibit personal attacks help rather than harm the \"free exchange of ideas\".  Of course, if the only ideas you have available to exchange are personal attacks, I can see how you might perceive that differently. <br><br>Anyway, I will flatly state we are totally committed to the free exchange of different ideas.  In fact, I spent much of yesterday trying to rebalance our contributors to include more from the liberal perspective.  :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:37:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11731285": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Austin Roth--<br><br>The government would have an easier time recouping costs because it would have a larger pool (a point made by Nate Silver). <br><br>Because the government would have no interest in making a profit, that would also reduce costs.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:07:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11731081, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11712216": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"[Public health care] is actually already the compromised position.\"<br><br>It's certainly mathematically compromised.  I find it ethically compromised as well, stacking up bills for our grandchildren to pay off.  We owe them an efficient, sustainable health care industry.  We're failing them, and more irresponsible government programs like Medicare would do so even more extravagantly.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-24_23:45:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "Dr_J", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11735003": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>People who don't drive still pay taxes that support roads.<br><br>The childless still pay taxes that support schools.<br><br>Vegetarians still pay taxes that support cattle farmers.</i><br><br>You running out of other peoples ideas to crib? :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_14:25:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11732598, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722204": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The current total number of banned accounts (not counting spam) is 4.  The last \"amnesty\" was 2 months ago.  And as I said above, I'll rescind even your ban if you'll just be civil and on-topic.  I think those are modest requests.<br><br>Now could you please stop trying to hijack a thread about health care, George?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:45:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722171": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<blockquote>Jason considers disagreement with him a personal attack.</blockquote><br><br>Not true.  If it were true, I would be unable to work with any of my fellow contributors, since I disagree with all of them.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:43:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11722594": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sorry, Austin.  I didn't want to let the false accusations go unanswered.  I should have said nothing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:57:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11736163": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "GeorgeSorwell said: \"Jason considers disagreement with him a personal attack... I'd guess you'll all see it soon enough.\"<br><br>Well said George. And yes, Mr. \"Avark\" (sic) does have a way of making his position known... a quick trip to the link he posted above will tell you all you need to know.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_14:50:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "SteveK", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 11, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11722123, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11736426": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Austin Roth--<br><br>I'm always happy to crib a good idea.  <br><br>I didn't originate this idea either:                                                <blockquote>There is nothing intuitively obvious to me that says it's better for the pool of our money to go to several private, profit-seeking companies whose policies impose extra costs on us.</blockquote>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_14:56:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11735003, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11721196": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My response to Kathy's response is at:<br><br><a href=\"http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/25/14823/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/25/14823/</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_09:15:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "JasonArvak", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11734765": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Austin Roth--<br><br>The hospitals raise their costs to cover the people who don't pay. Since people who have insurance pay with insurance, those increases get passed along to the insurance company. So the insurance company raises its premiums. <br><br>If there is no zero cost alternative to the costs of the uninsured, the costs will always be passed to someone else.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_14:20:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11747695": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Jason--<br><br>I don't hate you. <br><br>But you ban people over there, and once, one of them was me. <br><br>And of course, there's plenty of real discussion here. There always has been.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_18:30:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11741196, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11730544": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The \"public option\" (and other things sought by the Dems), the co-ops, and other ideas are incrementalist moves by the Dems toward complete public health care (and complete public control) and there's no reason that some or all of these should be conceded in any measures purported to change (or \"reform\") health care.<br><br>\"I want what I want [everything], NOW!\" is not reasonable, Kathy.  You lose again.<br><br>It also reminds me of the deceptive advertising currently on CNN about the Obama plan (I don't know what group has sponsored it and don't care).  This also mischaracterizes the nature of negotiations in general as well as deliberately attempts to deceive viewers to get them to believe Obama's not only interested in \"compromise\" (which isn't part of the ad) but is a \"third way\" (triangulation!) \"forward.\"  [sic]<br><br>Superficially this ad was laid out as was described below, for other reasons (the ad indicated or implied with its tone that both of these are bad and that has left us at an impasse; Obama offers a third choice, \"to go forward\" [sic]):<br><br>\"Strictly speaking, one extreme would be health care completely controlled by the government and the other would be no government health care at all.\"<br><br>(The ad says \"Do Nothing\" as the [false] second extreme.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_12:50:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "DLS", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11758449": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "GS - <br><br><i>Only the greatest comment in the history of the Moderate Voice!</i><br><br>Thanks for the love! Right back at you, big guy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_23:59:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11747213, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11731570": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "George,<br><br>I guess people like C.O. prefer paying more at the back end than paying less at the front end.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_13:13:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "kathykattenburg", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11737206": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "GS - here are some more unoriginal but relevant quotes:<br><br><i>A large family and Democrats have a lot in common: teenagers and Democrats are always happy spending other people's money.</i><br><br><i>Governmental subsidy systems promote inefficiency in production and efficiency in coercion and subservience, while penalizing efficiency in production and inefficiency in predation.</i><br><br><i>First rule in government spending: why have one when you can have two at triple the price?</i><br><br><i>\"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.\"</i><br><br><i>The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.</i><br><br><i>The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.</i>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_15:16:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11736445, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11726839": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@@casual: You want to keep your money. Kathy wants to not die. Of course, we're already assuming that she's sick and you're not. Suppose the opposite - you are suffering from an expensive but curable disease. You can't pay for it - are you going to shrug and go coffin-shopping?@@<br><br>I'm not going to just \"shrug\", but assuming I have exhausted all my resources, abilities and options to get it covered myself, I might then well appeal to the voluntary beneficence of others, but will I accept I have to die before I have the \"right to confiscate\" another's property?.........Absolutely, unequivocally.......YES.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_11:25:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "casualobserver", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11723000": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>True compromise \u2014 meaningful compromise \u2014 only happens when each side\u2019s starting point is a whole loaf.</i><br><br>Strictly speaking, one extreme would be health care completely controlled by the government and the other would be no government health care at all.  Since we already have significant government health care programs we already have a system that's a compromise and asking each side to start with a \"whole loaf\" isn't realistic.<br><br>I think we have to be honest - a public option is really just a bridge to socialized health care.  The concept of government competition leading to lower private insurance premiums can only succeed if there is a level playing field.  A public health plan would have no cash reserve requirements and pay no taxes, so would have a huge financial advantage from the onset.  Theoretically the government could configure a public health plan to be just competitive enough to lower private premiums but not so competitive as to kill the private health plans.  That's a very narrow target to hit and I don't see any reason we should expect the government to be able to do it successfully.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_10:10:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "DaGoat", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11728764": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ryan - what about an expensive, incurable disease? Does that change anything?<br><br>The bigger question always comes back to cost. There is all this railing about the expense of health care, while at the same time blaming private insurance for their (admittedly sometimes overzealous) attempts at cost containment.<br><br>Contrast that to Medicare and Medicaid, two programs that are the epitome of cost over-runs (exceeded only by Defense contracting). Then there is the government bureaucracy mindset. In private enterprise, good managers are those that increase revenue while keeping costs under control. However, bureaucracies function under a different set of rules. They get rewarded for increasing their budgets and spending it all. <br><br>Not spending all your budget means it will be cut next year, and that reduces your power base. Anyone who has been involved in government knows the truth of this. There is a negative incentive to keep costs down. There is a positive incentive to force your bureaucracy into more and more areas of the sector you are involved in.<br><br>Also, accountability within Federal bureaucracies is an oxymoron.<br><br>So, how over the long run, any government program will expand its scope and cost, become more inefficient and top-heavy, more dominated by process and procedures, more risk adverse about new ideas (and in the case of medicine, treatments), and less responsible to the taxpayers.<br><br>Sorry, that is not what I want in my health care provider.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_12:12:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "AustinRoth", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11725962, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "11736445": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Thanks, SteveK.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-06-25_14:57:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "GeorgeSorwell", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 10, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 11736163, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "http://themoderatevoice.com/disqus-blank.html", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "22938910", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "2724", "hash": 2035224233439004168}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 22938910, "num_posts": 58, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "8e626a1cbe92745e5f4435bb28791555", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=themoderatevoice' +
		'&t=if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/uploads/forums/2724//avatar92.jpg';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">58</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on The Moderate Voice" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:22938910" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'themoderatevoice',
			't'				: 'if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'if_you_ask_for_half_a_loaf_you_will_get_a_quarter_of_a_loaf'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/22938910/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
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<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11719967">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11719967" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11719967" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11719967">HemmD</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11719967" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11719967" class="dsq-comment-message">So one "extreme" is public programs,  what\'s the other end of the spectrum?  The wy things are now.<br><br>If we continue as it is, we\'ll be bankrupt in just a few years.  The current system guarantees year after year increases in costs and an ever increasing number of people who have no insurance that are paid by those who have insurance.  <br><br>We\'re constantly told that public options will be the death of Medicine, but what\'s not said is that the current system is also the death of the system.  Compromise starts with  a true definition of the current system, but the lobbyists of the medical industry never mention that unsustainable fact.<br><br>Personally, I\'d like a refund of the money my insurance company is spending on lobbying.  It would be the first time my costs would have gone down.  Clearly, pocketing a few Senators is good business when 70% of the people want a public option.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11733001">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11733001" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11733001" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11733001">HemmD</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11733001" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11733001" class="dsq-comment-message">DLS<br><br>I\'ll stand by my original statement.  The current system suffers from year over year cost increases while the number of uninsured who present at Emergency Rooms also increases.  These uninsured costs are covered in ever higher medical costs going forward.<br><br>Predicting human frailty does not require a genome project, everybody eventually gets sicks and dies.  Every time I hear people say they want to join a "low risk" insurance group, I can\'t help by laugh.  Insurance companies thrive on the naive assumption that health is anything but temporal.  They\'ll catch you later when you\'re old or just unfortunate.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11742147">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11742147" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11742147" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11742147">AustinRoth</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11742147" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11742147" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>All commenter bans at PoliGazette have been lifted.</i><br><br>I can take care of THAT! ;)</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11730852">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11730852" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11730852" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11730852">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11730852" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11730852" class="dsq-comment-message">To everyone who thinks they\'ll get stuck with somebody else\'s medical bills--guess what? <br><br>You are already <A HREF="http://wecandobetter.org/learn_more/the_uninsured" rel="nofollow">getting stuck paying for the uninsured</A>:<br><blockquote># People without insurance use the most expensive source of care when they need it – the emergency room – which adds unnecessary costs to the health system.<br><br># The cost of care for the uninsured is shifted to people with insurance, in the form of higher premiums, co-pays and deductibles.<br><br># Through this cost shift, the average person with insurance pays about $100 per month to cover the cost of care for the uninsured.<br></blockquote><br><br>Also:<br><blockquote>The current structure of the US health care system results in higher taxes, lower wages, increased health care costs and, often the inability to get timely access to needed care. We have "universal access" but only through the emergency room, which is both expensive and inefficient.</blockquote></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11731285">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11731285" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11731285" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11731285">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11731285" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11731285" class="dsq-comment-message">Austin Roth--<br><br>The government would have an easier time recouping costs because it would have a larger pool (a point made by Nate Silver). <br><br>Because the government would have no interest in making a profit, that would also reduce costs.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11731504">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11731504" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11731504" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11731504">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11731504" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11731504" class="dsq-comment-message">Austin Roth--<br><br>I believe that the government has made it illegal for emergency rooms to dump patients without insurance back onto the sidewalk. <br><br>What\'s the alternative that will impose zero costs for them?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11731570">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11731570" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11731570" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11731570">kathykattenburg</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11731570" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11731570" class="dsq-comment-message">George,<br><br>I guess people like C.O. prefer paying more at the back end than paying less at the front end.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11721635">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11721635" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11721635" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11721635">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11721635" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11721635" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m banned from Jason Arvak\'s site. <br><br>They\'re not exactly committed to the free exchange of ideas over there.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11722172">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11722172" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722172" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722172">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11722172" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722172" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>We periodically "amnesty" banned addresses so that few bans are actually permanent. </blockquote><br><br>They have to have periodic amnesties because they ban so many people.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11722445">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11722445" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722445" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722445">AustinRoth</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11722445" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722445" class="dsq-comment-message">Hmm - this thread being \'hijacked\' by GS and Jason. BAN THEM BOTH!!!<br><br>HA HA HA HA!<br><br>:)</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11722914">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11722914" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722914" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722914">casualobserver</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11722914" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722914" class="dsq-comment-message">Far be it from me to ever want to fall out of your good graces, George, but, you actually never provide any ideas for exchange. Your posts almost always fall into one of two categories: (1) simply a link to another person\'s ideas (aka Kattenburg/Stickings School of Journalism) or, (2) parsing another person\'s post into a contorted leading question all-too-obviously attempting a "gotcha" moment (aka "trolling").<br><br>To get the thread back on track and to implement "idea exchange", please provide us with a paragraph explaining why Kattenburg has an unalienable human right to have casualobserver pay Kattenburg\'s medical bills and how that does not simultaneously violate casualobserver\'s rights.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11712216">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11712216" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11712216" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11712216">Dr J</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11712216" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11712216" class="dsq-comment-message">"[Public health care] is actually already the compromised position."<br><br>It\'s certainly mathematically compromised.  I find it ethically compromised as well, stacking up bills for our grandchildren to pay off.  We owe them an efficient, sustainable health care industry.  We\'re failing them, and more irresponsible government programs like Medicare would do so even more extravagantly.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11758449">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11758449" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11758449" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11758449">AustinRoth</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11758449" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11758449" class="dsq-comment-message">GS - <br><br><i>Only the greatest comment in the history of the Moderate Voice!</i><br><br>Thanks for the love! Right back at you, big guy.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11747213">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11747213" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11747213" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11747213">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11747213" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11747213" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>I can take care of THAT! ;)</blockquote><br><br>Only the greatest comment in the history of the Moderate Voice!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11747695">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11747695" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11747695" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11747695">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11747695" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11747695" class="dsq-comment-message">Jason--<br><br>I don\'t hate you. <br><br>But you ban people over there, and once, one of them was me. <br><br>And of course, there\'s plenty of real discussion here. There always has been.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11741196">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11741196" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11741196" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11741196">JasonArvak</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11741196" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11741196" class="dsq-comment-message">GeorgeSorwell and SteveK,<br><br>Whatever I have done to make you hate me so much, I apologize for.  Hopefully, we can set these issues aside and start over in the interests of a real discussion.  I have dedicated three posts to this discussion already, including one specifically in response to George\'s comment.  Hopefully, you can take this effort as an indication of good faith on my part.<br><br>P.S.  All commenter bans at PoliGazette have been lifted.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11743653">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11743653" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11743653" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11743653">AustinRoth</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11743653" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11743653" class="dsq-comment-message">No one from the health care industry has said anything to make me \'fear\' the government morphing their \'option\' into a \'mandatory\'. The government has done that for them, all by itself. I do not trust Congress on this issue. Period.<br><br>And I still say the private insurance has a stronger incentive to reduce costs, because of the profit motive, than government bureaucracies.<br><br>We just fundamentally see the world differently on this.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11737748">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11737748" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11737748" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11737748">HemmD</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11737748" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11737748" class="dsq-comment-message">AR<br><br>George\'s points, cribbed or original still are valid points.  Personal cost to cover society\'s needs are an acceptable part of of our society.  Or would you prefer the "every man for himself" theory of social Darwinism?<br><br>I certainly don\'t need Federal highways where you live, just near me....   Sounds kind of silly.<br><br>I don\'t need health insurance for other people, just me and mine......   same logic.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11738186">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11738186" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11738186" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11738186">AustinRoth</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11738186" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11738186" class="dsq-comment-message">HemmD - but I reject the concept that health care insurance should be funded by the government; you don\'t. <br><br>Your logic only holds water if we start from the same position.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11738527" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11738527" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11738527">HemmD</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11738527" class="dsq-comment-message">How about flood insurance, disaster response, and unemployment aid to States that can\'t afford to keep their own citizens alive, fed and cared for?<br><br>No one has said that a public plan would be cost free to those who pick it, you got to pay just like private insurance.  You\'re currently paying for the uninsured now; why are you afraid of that fact like you say you are about the public option?  <br><br>You can\'t believe the current system that charges us for the uninsured is the way you prefer it, do you?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11739307" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11739307">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11739307" class="dsq-comment-message">HemmD - where did I say I was afraid of paying for the uninsured under a public option? I did talk about my fear of government inefficiencies running medical programs, and someone else started that part of the conversation, but that was more of one specific example being discussed than any major item of itself.<br><br>I thought I have been clear that my \'fears\' are that this will become a mandatory program, not an option, over time; that will make the current cost structure seem like the good old days within a decade; it will decrease the quality of care for all but the poorest; it will reduce and retard innovation and new technologies; and it will effectively be the largest tax increase in history, and the creation of the largest federal agency in existence eventually (yes, larger than the Defense Department).<br><br>Again,not the health care or health care provider I want for me, or my children and grandchildren.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11734765" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11734765">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11734765" class="dsq-comment-message">Austin Roth--<br><br>The hospitals raise their costs to cover the people who don\'t pay. Since people who have insurance pay with insurance, those increases get passed along to the insurance company. So the insurance company raises its premiums. <br><br>If there is no zero cost alternative to the costs of the uninsured, the costs will always be passed to someone else.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11735003" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11735003">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11735003" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11735003" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>People who don\'t drive still pay taxes that support roads.<br><br>The childless still pay taxes that support schools.<br><br>Vegetarians still pay taxes that support cattle farmers.</i><br><br>You running out of other peoples ideas to crib? :)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11736163" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11736163">SteveK</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11736163" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11736163" class="dsq-comment-message">GeorgeSorwell said: "Jason considers disagreement with him a personal attack... I\'d guess you\'ll all see it soon enough."<br><br>Well said George. And yes, Mr. "Avark" (sic) does have a way of making his position known... a quick trip to the link he posted above will tell you all you need to know.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11737206" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11737206">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11737206" class="dsq-comment-message">GS - here are some more unoriginal but relevant quotes:<br><br><i>A large family and Democrats have a lot in common: teenagers and Democrats are always happy spending other people\'s money.</i><br><br><i>Governmental subsidy systems promote inefficiency in production and efficiency in coercion and subservience, while penalizing efficiency in production and inefficiency in predation.</i><br><br><i>First rule in government spending: why have one when you can have two at triple the price?</i><br><br><i>"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away."</i><br><br><i>The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.</i><br><br><i>The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.</i></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11732127" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11732127">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11732127" class="dsq-comment-message">GS - <i>The government would have an easier time recouping costs because it would have a larger pool</i><br><br>Indeed they do - our money.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11732396" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11732396">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11732396" class="dsq-comment-message">GS  -<i>What\'s the alternative that will impose zero costs for them?</i><br><br>Why, there is none, of course. Well, I guess we could use your favorite method, and make the government directly reimburse hospitals. <br><br>And by the way, your initial point 2 was wrong. The increased costs are due to inflated charges TO the insurers, as they do not cover the costs of the uninsured, the hospitals themselves do (which is not limited to insurers - everyone who pays for medical services kicks in for those who the hospitals cannot recover from directly)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11732598" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11732598">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11732598" class="dsq-comment-message">Austin Roth--<br><br>People who don\'t drive still pay taxes that support roads.<br><br>The childless still pay taxes that support schools.<br><br>Vegetarians still pay taxes that support cattle farmers. <br><br>There is nothing intuitively obvious to me that says it\'s better for the pool of <i>our money</i> to go to several private, profit-seeking companies whose policies impose extra costs on us.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11730544" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11730544">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11730544" class="dsq-comment-message">The "public option" (and other things sought by the Dems), the co-ops, and other ideas are incrementalist moves by the Dems toward complete public health care (and complete public control) and there\'s no reason that some or all of these should be conceded in any measures purported to change (or "reform") health care.<br><br>"I want what I want [everything], NOW!" is not reasonable, Kathy.  You lose again.<br><br>It also reminds me of the deceptive advertising currently on CNN about the Obama plan (I don\'t know what group has sponsored it and don\'t care).  This also mischaracterizes the nature of negotiations in general as well as deliberately attempts to deceive viewers to get them to believe Obama\'s not only interested in "compromise" (which isn\'t part of the ad) but is a "third way" (triangulation!) "forward."  [sic]<br><br>Superficially this ad was laid out as was described below, for other reasons (the ad indicated or implied with its tone that both of these are bad and that has left us at an impasse; Obama offers a third choice, "to go forward" [sic]):<br><br>"Strictly speaking, one extreme would be health care completely controlled by the government and the other would be no government health care at all."<br><br>(The ad says "Do Nothing" as the [false] second extreme.)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11730834">DLS</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11730834" class="dsq-comment-message">" the current system is also the death of the system."<br><br>You are incorrect.  However, it could move closer toward failure ("death") if we not only decode the genome but insurance companies use genetic information someday to predict and to routinely exclude vast numbers of people in the future from specific (if not general) medical care coverage because they have much better predictability of pre-existing conditions (which is how genetic predispositions will be viewed logically and actuarily), even applying this to existing (previously covered) people.  This has been anticipated for years, decades.<br><br>(It\'s kind of like Obama and Dems predictably dwarfing and greatly subsuming GOP deficits and debt into their own vastly greater deficits and debt.  And note that the Dems are irreponsibly rushing to push this health care public sector growth without any revelation or discussion of costs or how to pay for it.  Talk about exploiting the so very exploitable!)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11731081" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11731081">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11731081" class="dsq-comment-message">GS - and when you cut to the chase, those items you cite are required by Federal law (the first item is, and as private insurance is just that, for profit, they have to recoup the cost somewhere, as would the government if it was fully running health care).<br><br>So we can already see the effect of inefficient and poorly thought out Federal initiatives at work. And you want MORE of this?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11726839" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11726839">casualobserver</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11726839" class="dsq-comment-message">@@casual: You want to keep your money. Kathy wants to not die. Of course, we\'re already assuming that she\'s sick and you\'re not. Suppose the opposite - you are suffering from an expensive but curable disease. You can\'t pay for it - are you going to shrug and go coffin-shopping?@@<br><br>I\'m not going to just "shrug", but assuming I have exhausted all my resources, abilities and options to get it covered myself, I might then well appeal to the voluntary beneficence of others, but will I accept I have to die before I have the "right to confiscate" another\'s property?.........Absolutely, unequivocally.......YES.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11728764" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11728764">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11728764" class="dsq-comment-message">Ryan - what about an expensive, incurable disease? Does that change anything?<br><br>The bigger question always comes back to cost. There is all this railing about the expense of health care, while at the same time blaming private insurance for their (admittedly sometimes overzealous) attempts at cost containment.<br><br>Contrast that to Medicare and Medicaid, two programs that are the epitome of cost over-runs (exceeded only by Defense contracting). Then there is the government bureaucracy mindset. In private enterprise, good managers are those that increase revenue while keeping costs under control. However, bureaucracies function under a different set of rules. They get rewarded for increasing their budgets and spending it all. <br><br>Not spending all your budget means it will be cut next year, and that reduces your power base. Anyone who has been involved in government knows the truth of this. There is a negative incentive to keep costs down. There is a positive incentive to force your bureaucracy into more and more areas of the sector you are involved in.<br><br>Also, accountability within Federal bureaucracies is an oxymoron.<br><br>So, how over the long run, any government program will expand its scope and cost, become more inefficient and top-heavy, more dominated by process and procedures, more risk adverse about new ideas (and in the case of medicine, treatments), and less responsible to the taxpayers.<br><br>Sorry, that is not what I want in my health care provider.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11724039" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11724039">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11724039" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11724039" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>"A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies..."</i> - Lord Thomas MacCauley</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11724168" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11724168" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11724168">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11724168" class="dsq-comment-message">Casualobserver--<br><br>People who don\'t drive still pay taxes that support roads.<br><br>The childless still pay taxes that support schools. <br><br>Vegetarians still pay taxes that support cattle farmers. <br><br><A HREF="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/george-f-will-admits-public-option-will.html" rel="nofollow">Nate Silver</A> has a good post on the pragmatic argument I support in the matter of health care.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11721940" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11721940" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11721940">JasonArvak</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11721940" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11721940" class="dsq-comment-message">George,<br><br>That is not true.  You were banned previously because you made repeated personal attacks and thread hijacks.  If you are willing to just avoid doing that, your comments are welcome.  In fact, I don\'t know if you are still banned.  We periodically "amnesty" banned addresses so that few bans are actually permanent.  I don\'t know your email address, so I can\'t verify your status, but if you contact me by the email link, I can check and I can rescind any current bans for people who are willing to just stay on-topic and civil.<br><br>The way I see it, rules that prohibit personal attacks help rather than harm the "free exchange of ideas".  Of course, if the only ideas you have available to exchange are personal attacks, I can see how you might perceive that differently. <br><br>Anyway, I will flatly state we are totally committed to the free exchange of different ideas.  In fact, I spent much of yesterday trying to rebalance our contributors to include more from the liberal perspective.  :)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722123" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722123">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722123" class="dsq-comment-message">Jason considers disagreement with him a personal attack.<br><br>I\'d guess you\'ll all see it soon enough.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722204" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722204">JasonArvak</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722204" class="dsq-comment-message">The current total number of banned accounts (not counting spam) is 4.  The last "amnesty" was 2 months ago.  And as I said above, I\'ll rescind even your ban if you\'ll just be civil and on-topic.  I think those are modest requests.<br><br>Now could you please stop trying to hijack a thread about health care, George?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722385" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722385">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11722385" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722385" class="dsq-comment-message">What you\'re seeing from Jason here is what you\'re going to get over there.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11720772" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11720772">AustinRoth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11720772" class="dsq-comment-message">An option, yes:<br><br><i>72 percent of those questioned supported a government-administered insurance plan — something like Medicare for those under 65 — that would compete for customers with private insurers.</i><br><br>But the fear is that the \'option\' will soon morph into a \'mandatory\', and that is where support falls down:<br><br><i>77 percent said they were very or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their own care.</i></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11712782" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-11712782" href="http://sovereignmind.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">adelinesdad</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11712782" class="dsq-comment-message">This is why the the prevailing view of "compromise" is flawed to begin with.  If the definition is just finding a middle ground between two extremes, then that just pushes the two extremes farther apart, to the point where neither side really believes in their proposals but are just advancing them in order to get the optimal "compromise" for themselves.<br><br>How about this.  Let\'s just debate over what works and what doesn\'t.  Let\'s not get caught up in the "well, you got two things you wanted, and I only got one thing, so this plan isn\'t fair."  Let\'s debate the proposals, both in detail and overall, based on their merits.  But this is politics we\'re talking about, so I suppose that\'s not likely to happen.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11719626" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11719626">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11719626" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11719626" class="dsq-comment-message">Dr J--<br><br>When you complain about how unethical it is for us to stack up bills for our grandchildren, are you saying we should increase our taxes to pay our own bills?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11721196" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11721196">JasonArvak</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11721196" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11721196" class="dsq-comment-message">My response to Kathy\'s response is at:<br><br><a href="http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/25/14823/" rel="nofollow">http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/25/14823/</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722171" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722171">JasonArvak</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11722171" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722171" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>Jason considers disagreement with him a personal attack.</blockquote><br><br>Not true.  If it were true, I would be unable to work with any of my fellow contributors, since I disagree with all of them.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11722594" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11722594">JasonArvak</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11722594" class="dsq-comment-message">Sorry, Austin.  I didn\'t want to let the false accusations go unanswered.  I should have said nothing.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11723000">DaGoat</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11723000" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11723000" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>True compromise — meaningful compromise — only happens when each side’s starting point is a whole loaf.</i><br><br>Strictly speaking, one extreme would be health care completely controlled by the government and the other would be no government health care at all.  Since we already have significant government health care programs we already have a system that\'s a compromise and asking each side to start with a "whole loaf" isn\'t realistic.<br><br>I think we have to be honest - a public option is really just a bridge to socialized health care.  The concept of government competition leading to lower private insurance premiums can only succeed if there is a level playing field.  A public health plan would have no cash reserve requirements and pay no taxes, so would have a huge financial advantage from the onset.  Theoretically the government could configure a public health plan to be just competitive enough to lower private premiums but not so competitive as to kill the private health plans.  That\'s a very narrow target to hit and I don\'t see any reason we should expect the government to be able to do it successfully.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-11724990">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11724990" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11724990" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11724990">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11724990" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11724990" class="dsq-comment-message">Austin Roth--<br><br>I\'m sure you remember the Jason era as fondly as I do.  Well played!<br><br>As for Maccauley, he died before they built the interstate.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-11725878">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11725878" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11725878" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11725878">Rudi</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11725878" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11725878" class="dsq-comment-message">@JS & GS<br>LOL They even allow my comments over at the Poligazette. Do they do an occasional edit - yes. But a banning isn\'t usually permanent, unless you really go on a rant.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-11725962">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11725962" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11725962" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11725962">Ryan</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11725962" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11725962" class="dsq-comment-message">casual: You want to keep your money. Kathy wants to not die. Of course, we\'re already assuming that she\'s sick and you\'re not. Suppose the opposite - you are suffering from an expensive but curable disease. You can\'t pay for it - are you going to shrug and go coffin-shopping?</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11725974">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11725974" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11725974" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11725974">JasonArvak</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11725974" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11725974" class="dsq-comment-message">Nate Silver\'s argument appears true until you think about the way he misperceives the role of profits.  He is implicitly treating them as what marxists call "surplus value" -- simply wasted money accumulated by the ruling class (in Silver\'s scenario, the insurance companies) for selfish ends.  This interpretation assumes that the profits are never used for any purpose other than the enrichment of the ruling class.<br><br>But when we recognize that profits serve two additional roles, this argument weakens severely.  Specifically, profits are used for investment, which is good for the overall economy.  The government can\'t do that because it must ultimately extract (either directly through taxation or parasitically through soaking up other investment capital by the sale of bonds) everything that it expends.  <br><br>Profits also serve as incentives to innovation and efficiency.  Government programs have a dreadful record of trying to recreate these incentives, as testified to by the shortages of available care and, in particular, available equipment infrastructure in single-payer systems like Canada and the UK.  This issue is consistently one that single-payer advocates avoid talking about at all costs because, I think, they don\'t have even the slightest idea how to answer it while maintaining their purist approach.<br><br>So while Nate Silver\'s post is a good example of the "gotcha" style of game-play that is popular for some reason in the blogosphere, it is not actually sound policy analysis because it fundamentally fails to engage with the interactive effects of the real-world economy of health care and government spending.<br><br><em>Cross posted in expanded form at <a href="http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/25/the-role-of-profits-in-health-care/" rel="nofollow">PoliGazette</a></em>.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11730246">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11730246" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11730246" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11730246">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11730246" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11730246" class="dsq-comment-message">Here\'s what Nate Silver has to say about profit and the insurance industry:   <blockquote>It\'s possible, certainly, that the profit motive in the insurance industry has driven more innovation than we\'re giving it credit for. But that isn\'t my bet, and it isn\'t George Will\'s: There\'s no obvious reason that the government couldn\'t provide more for less. And if we are wrong, we would find out soon enough: if the public option can\'t deliver more bang for the buck than private insurers, it wouldn\'t gain much market share from them, and Will will have nothing to worry about.</blockquote></div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11736426">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11736426" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11736426" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11736426">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11736426" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11736426" class="dsq-comment-message">Austin Roth--<br><br>I\'m always happy to crib a good idea.  <br><br>I didn\'t originate this idea either:                                                <blockquote>There is nothing intuitively obvious to me that says it\'s better for the pool of our money to go to several private, profit-seeking companies whose policies impose extra costs on us.</blockquote></div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11736445">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11736445" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11736445" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11736445">GeorgeSorwell</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11736445" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11736445" class="dsq-comment-message">Thanks, SteveK.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11742410">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11742410" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11742410" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11742410">HemmD</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11742410" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11742410" class="dsq-comment-message">AR<br><br>I knew the phraseology of "afraid" would go over like a lead balloon.  <br><br>"Again,not the health care or health care provider I want for me, or my children and grandchildren."<br><br>That\'s my point, not providing a public option is not the same as making it mandatory.  The only people who gain from pushing that meme are the profit oriented private insurers.  If the public option is doomed to complete governmental chaos and skyrocketing costs, let it fail in the market.  I freely admit that I fear that private insurance is doomed to the same skyrocket going forward too.  <br><br>Their concern is not cost, it\'s profit.  That difference means that increasing costs make for ever larger contracts and ever larger profits.  If your margin is only 3%, wouldn\'t you want 3% of a hundred million over 3% of 75 million?  Their profits grow due to the upward climb.  Now that I find scary.<br><br>The way to cost containment is through establishing medical "best practices"  that help to eliminate defensive medicine.  Clearly, not running a test that symptoms do not warrant is expensive and wasteful.   I\'d certainly like to see the end of frivolous law suits too.  We both know, however, some lawsuits are more than warranted.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-11744625">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11744625" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11744625" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11744625">HemmD</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11744625" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11744625" class="dsq-comment-message">well, that\'s the first time that\'s ever happened.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-11756062">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11756062" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11756062" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-11756062" href="http://sovereignmind.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">adelinesdad</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11756062" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11756062" class="dsq-comment-message">"Their concern is not cost, it\'s profit. That difference means that increasing costs make for ever larger contracts and ever larger profits. If your margin is only 3%, wouldn\'t you want 3% of a hundred million over 3% of 75 million? Their profits grow due to the upward climb. Now that I find scary."<br><br>profit = income - cost.  So if cost goes up, how exactly does profit go up with it?  We\'re talking about insurance here.  If insurance has to pay more, profits go down.  They can try to recoup that loss by increasing premiums, but they can only do that to a point.  So it seems to me there is already a pretty good incentive to limit costs.  That\'s not to say we don\'t need changes to make controlling costs easier, and there certainly are aspects of the system were the incentives are skewed.  But I think the above statement is a gross simplification.<br><br>To address the original post, if Obama and the left had started with single payer, there would have been a backlash and the debate would have died like it did with Clinton.  Obama is a pragmatist.  By proposing something more moderate, he was able to get some of those on the other side on board right away (I\'m not talking about politicians, I\'m talking about the industry).  That will likely by the key to success.  So Obama compromised a little to start, and that triggered the industry to recognize it needed to compromise.  So neither side is starting with the "whole" loaf here.  As someone else said, the "whole load" on the right is not the current system, as the government is clearly very much involved in health care as it is.<br><br>If anyone cares, here\'s my plan:<br><br>1) Get rid of employer-based health plans<br>2) Regulate private insurers such that they cannot deny coverage, but they can adjust rates according to formulas they must publish (auto insurance companies must do this), and those formulas must be based on lifestyle choices that affect health, not on current health status.  For example, a smoker with lung cancer pays the same as a smoker without lung cancer, because the premium isn\'t based on the disease but the behavior.<br>3) Subsidize health coverage on a sliding scale for the poor, and pay for it by taxing insurance companies basd on the number of high-income person they insure.  Yes, this is re-distribution of income.  Yes, I\'m a conservative, but I believe that the free market has flaws, especially with regards to healthcare and education.<br>4) Mandate insurance coverage.  A civilized nation can\'t turn away people who need care, so the only alternative is to require at least a very basic level of insurance for all.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-11808046">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11808046" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11808046" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11808046">SteveK</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11808046" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11808046" class="dsq-comment-message">You\'re welcome George. Jason and I go back a long way... So far that I know him by his maiden name.<br><br>I\'d have more to say on the topic except we (Mr. "Avark" [sic] and I) came to a PRIVATE agreement that we would not intrude on each others \'personal space\' (internetually speaking) and that is why I have limited myself to a single comment on his recent  "remarks" here at TMV.<br><br>His latest personal ad hominem attacks on Kathy both here at TMV and on his censorial site (blanket amnesty... right!) and his smart assed remarks about me and my position may very well have nullified our offline agreement. Come on if you want Jason but you ought to think twice before you open it up again... I kept my OneNote copies of the ENTIRE thread in our last go round.<br><br>Note to TMV editors: I have waited until this thread was off the front page before responding to Jasons attack on my comment about him... If you take away his power to censor he has nothing and that\'s why I\'m saddened that TMV has given him the ability to "moderate" (read censor) comments here... AGAIN. <br><br>Isn\'t it time to allow a coward and fool to be called a coward and a fool without having to fear that your comment will be "<i>(Edited by a moderator)</i>"?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-11880136">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-11880136" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-11880136" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-11880136">Pete Abel</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-11880136" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-11880136" class="dsq-comment-message">SteveK -- Knock it off.  Your threatening comments cross the line.  Continue on this path and you will be banned from further comments on this site.</div>\
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