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Just about every case where you say that a hardline approach has failed, or where you see that a 'talking' approach succeeds, my view is that you need the combination of the two. Nixon going to China is kind of the classic example of what I'm talking about- had China been given formal diplomatic status and full access earlier on, the rapprochement wouldn't have been possible.<br><br>And Mikkel, on the Iran/Iraq negotiations, that's pretty much he said- she said stuff, so it's a bit hard to form a conclusion. Obviously Iran having backed out of the talks means that they either weren't getting what they wanted (which could mean the US wasn't willing to give as much as we should have or it could mean that their demands were unreasonable, or some combination) or that they found that their best approach was to score propaganda by portraying it as though the US was the impediment to progress. My guess is that it was all of the above, and that the bottom line is that there are some really unbridgeable differences in our self interests. I think a much more creative third way must be found before any progress can be made- and as I alluded to the propaganda interest, this means to me that talking just for the sake of talking is pretty risky.<br><br>And really the point I'm trying to get at about the doubletalk about Obama's proposed policies is that I think it shows that underneath it all, neither the current adminstration nor their opponents really do think that unconditional talks should be on the table- but politically the liberal side has to portray it that way to their base. I think all of the delinking- put aside Hezbollah, etc- is considered dangerous by everyone except the far left- and even the politicians who want to get the support of the left wing realize that they have to do a bait and switch because that kind of diplomacy really does embolden terrorists and nations that support it. If they really thought that we should be more accomodating like that, I don't think there would be this effort by seasoned pols like Biden to 'correct' Obama's statements.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:38:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518048": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CStanley - this is a REALLY interesting comment!  You know what it makes me think of? It reminds me of how I feel about the word feminism - it just doesn't mean nearly the same thing to nearly enough people anymore.  There is a good youtube of \"what does a feminist look like.\"<br><br>Maybe we need a youtube of \"what does a leader look like.\"<br><br>Anybody game?<br><br>For the record, I'm with you re: the label is intended to encompass certain behaviors or choices or someething - but I think that that word is so limited - I mean, I read more than 350 RSS feeds! I never once seen this, and yet the person who left the comment - he is absolutely well-read.  He and I also disagree on a LOT of stuff, esp. related to gender.  But the fact that he would assert that he believes people will find that this matters is what made me want to hear more.<br><br>I'm very sorry at these times for the one-dimensional nature of the web.  Those who may remember a few months back, I wrote about whether or not what Obama had done, at that time, vis a vis Rev. Wright was enough - and I wanted to know what people thought, from an academic point, was the tipping point where we ALL say to people we followed, that we now diverge too much.<br><br>I got SLAMMED for asking that - like I had a secret mission.<br><br>I swear to you - I just ask questions few others will - either because I'm dumb, naive or - hey - just really want to know!<br><br>It truly is because I really want to know.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:52:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517441, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519648": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CStanley,<br>The reason we can't agree is because your perception of diplomacy and negotiations are a bit off. Let me quote M. Yglesias:<br><blockquote>The aim of diplomacy in this kind of situation is genuine bargaining aimed at reaching a mutually advantageous agreement. You're trying to cooperate and realize positive-sum gains, and diplomacy is the process by which those opportunities are identified and exploited. Obviously, such efforts sometimes fail and then maybe you look at coercion, but the diplomatic effort is not, as such, an attempt at coercion. If you think of it as one, you'll wind up thinking of it as a really shoddy attempt at coercion, and wind up rejecting it out of hand.</blockquote><br><br>And for kicks... there this:<br>\"The argument that the administration makes is that we can't negotiate with Iran because it will legitimate them. Well, we're legitimating North Korea, so what's the big deal?\" - Zbigniew Brzezinsk", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_15:12:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisWWW", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519430": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>The one precondition that is never there is a necessity to concede anyhing, discuss anything, or agree to anything. we don't want to.<br>It's a question of being open for opportunitie</i><br>But that's whats done in the lower channels, which have been open all along. What I'm pointing out is that that's exactly what Obama is now saying he'll do too- because if the 'preparation' doesn't bear fruit, then the high level talk doesn't make any sense (again, it would be disingenuous to sit down for negotiations about say, support of Hezbollah if our position is that there is no support of Hezbollah that is acceptable to us- and the other party would rightfully say that you were coming to the negotiating table in bad faith if you didn't announce ahead of time your intent to take that position. Ditto for nukes, assuming we hold to the position that a suspension of uranium enrichment is nonnegotiable.)<br><br>Preconditions are really just the honest announcement of intentions. If there was a condition that the other side considered nonnegotiable, we would also want them to admit that upfront rather than wasting our time- and if they came to the table saying that they wanted to negotiate on a particular topic but then showed up at the talks and refused to consider any movement from their current position, we'd rightly walk away with the PR victory there because we'd announce \"well, we tried, but they aren't willing to negotiate in good faith.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:50:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518153": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lol , T-Steel- thank you again. <br><br>So let me ask then - covering myself for fear - so - then, it is NOT cool to be a metrosexual?<br><br>Maybe I should say here that I remember a movie from a long time ago called Metropolitan about rich white kids in NYC who thought they were cool and they really were just asses.  I would think that they would be \"metrosexual\" but they certainly thought they were cool.<br><br>Are we at the point with language where our diversity as a society has made it really hard to know what each other means????", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_12:04:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517835, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518027": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The more troublesome aspect of this focus on appearances is dealt with in the book <i>Blink</i>, which deals with unconscious bias and snap decisions. <br><br>Sometimes these are uncannily accurate, while other times they lead us into disastrous decisions. A great example of the latter is covered in a chapter devoted to Warren Harding, one of our worst presidents, who ascended to that role by \"looking\" presidential and having a deep sonorous voice. The author, Malcolm Gladwell, points out that our top corporations are overwhelmingly run by white men of exceptional height. While none of the boards of directors who choose these CEOs would claim that being tall has anything to do with being competent, the facts are overwhelming that they are unconsciously predisposed toward tall men. We don't choose to be biased in the ways we are, and we can overcome them, but our predispositions are clearly there, and you can explore some of your own through Harvard's Implicit Associations Test, <a href=\"https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/\" rel=\"nofollow\">HERE</a>.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:50:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "GreenDreams", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518851": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<blockquote>And certainly sponsorship of terrorism should be nonnegotiable.</blockquote><br>And I suppose they could demand we dismantle our CIA or end our immoral occupation of Iraq. Or make us pay reparations for overthrowing their government and supporting the Shah. <br><br>Both sides can come up with hundreds of excuses to hold grudges and not talk to each other. Or we can all grow up and sit down and try to hash things out. If that doesn't work, we'll at least know that violence was the last option not the first.<br><br><blockquote>There's also the idea behind the Bush approach of isolationism that it is the best leverage we have to force regime change by internal forces- because if the moderates in Iran see that they'll get nowhere with Ahmadinejad, they're more likely to push him out the door and replace him with someone that is more moderate.</blockquote><br>And it didn't work in Iraq. It hasn't worked in Cuba. It didn't work with China. It didn't work with North Korea. That idea has been thoroughly trampled on by history. And remember Ahmadinejad doesn't call the shots in Iran.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:33:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisWWW", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "520086": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "So, now that this discussion has veered almost permanently off-topic, let me once again reiterate a real-world perspective missing in this dialogue. <br><br>The police negotiate with criminals in very intense crisis situations in which there is a high possibility of injury or death on both sides. No one accuses them of \"appeasement\" or of \"legitimizing\" the criminals. There are no preconditions, as none are possible. There are no \"low level talks\" because there isn't time (and besides, what sense does it make to give your second string a shot at it first?) <br><br>Negotiation has become a highly evolved strategy with a rich and diverse toolkit. It works an amazing amount of the time. The alternative, from a law enforcement standpoint, is to say \"we've got you surrounded, you're outgunned, and we're going to kill you. So do your worst.\" <br><br>I know I won't convince some commentors here of anything, but it is my hope that readers with more open minds will start thinking about negotiation as a serious tool for resolving conflict, and not some sissy soft liberal \"appeasement\" strategy. Remember, real world tough guys with guns, actual law enforcement heroes do this every day: they negotiate with the most sociopathic and dangerous people imaginable. And they win. They're not \"naive\" or stupid or inexperienced or exercising bad judgment. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them standing up for Obama and throwing this misrepresentation of the art of diplomacy right back in the GOP's faces. <br><br>The approach of threatening, of not engaging, and of attacking is a much riskier strategy, both in law enforcement and in international relations.<br><br>I hope the Obama campaign can get across to voting Americans that negotiation is not a gift to our enemies. Negotiation concedes nothing! Is a perfectly valid, legitimate and proven method of resolving conflict.<br><br>Now, as several here have taken a very inflexible position about negotiation, what is your solution? Bomb Iran? Is that really what you're suggesting? Unleashing missiles against a sovereign nation, possibly even nuclear weapons, threatening our own soldiers downwind in Afghanistan with radiation poisoning? Inciting the righteous wrath of the entire Islamic world, of all of our enemies and most of our friends? Or do you have some third option that you haven't stated. Please. Share it with us.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_16:10:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "GreenDreams", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518688": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Slamfu I agree 100% but WHY WHY WHY then did Kerry do that hunting thing when he was in the race?  He looked ridiculous!  And when I saw the photo, I assumed he was doing it to show, Hey! I hunt! Man hold gun!  Ugga Ugga.<br><br>Again - totally turns me off, but obviously someone advised him that he had to do it.<br><br>So what do we do - I mean - isn't perpetuating that and candidates letting letting their supporters or advisors tell them that they have to be seen doing x, y or z just as bad as actually believing what the commenter does all on his own?<br><br>I don't know - you know - for example, I think of Ann Richards - now I do not believe that there was much that that woman showed us that wasn't really who she was.  I could be wrong - I didn't chronicle her or anything.<br><br>But I don't think she is the norm.  Even Edwards' haircut silliness plays into all this.<br><br>How do we get them to just let us see them as they are if they are also going around and \"playing types\" for different constituencies?<br><br>And I do mean all candidates - I'm sure someone can come up with plenty about Clinton too.<br><br>This is one reason why, athough it's impossible, it sure would be nice if each of us could meet each of them in a much more up close and personal way than photo ops and so on.<br><br>Sigh.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 518629, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519198": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hah, ex-Greek here too, Alpha Tau Omega", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:23:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "RememberNovember", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517835, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517663": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Perhaps, and this is just one theory, that the media is so softball because it didn't have a major conflict to focus on like the old guard Vietnam journalists did. Gulf one, was over and done in 10 days, with video-game footage of bunker busters. VN showed the gruesome body counts on a daily basis.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:06:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "RememberNovember", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517438, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517280": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Wait wait wait wait . :)  Are you waiting? :)<br><br>I was floored to get that comment.  I am SINCERELY looking for input on this.  I've never read about it before, I had to Google to see if anyone had.  TMV is a fantastic place to get feedback - come on, I am the messenger here asking for feedback.  Plus, I've know the author of that comment for at least four years so I take what he writes in the context of knowing him and wanted to find out how right OR WRONG he might be.  How else do any of us do that?<br><br>I think YOU can do better than accuse me of...whatever it is you're accusing me of (I stopped reading Dowd aboud five months ago - she's just getting too out there for me right now).<br><br>So - your opinion on the matter is - this is garbage, correct?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:15:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517163, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518179": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "T Steel - interesting!!! Obama gets \"cat\" which is feline, Clinton gets cookie which is baking and McCain gets...fella! lol  oy I have to stop.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_12:06:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517835, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517796": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "all it is , is another label to hang on your opponent...and a way to deflect from the real issues and avoid being anything of substance.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:21:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "RememberNovember", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517643, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519720": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CStanley-<br>Again, if we don't want to negotiate about  Hezbollah, WE DON'T HAVE TO.<br><br>That should not  be a precondition to say 'hello' on other topics.<br><br>Gazing into crystal balls about what Obama would or would not do in situations that haven't happened yet, is just pseudo-analysis, as no one knows anymore what any ot the phrases or words used actually mean.<br><br>I'm actually sorry that politics has pushed Obam to make as many specific statemtns as he has already.  That just paints him in a corner, whereas an  important attribute of a leader is the ability to be flexible when necessary,  to adapt to new conditions and to think outside the box.<br><br>It's much more important to know HOW he thinks, not what specific steps he would take in the unknown future.  If you must have a dead certain step by step blueprint for dealing with future siuations,  I don't think politics is the place to look for that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_15:21:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "runasim", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519336": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CStanley,<br>\"certainly sponsorship of terrorism should be nonnegotiable.\"<br><br>So, don't negotiatie it.<br><br>No one should divulge their  whole geme plan before sitting down.<br>Talks/  usually about a specific probelm, not about every issue. and  general world views.<br>The US cut off avenues for gaining specific benefits by making the conditions for talking too broad.<br>Had there been ongoing talks all along, the use of diplomacy might have left an opening to bring in the question of terrorism, but now we'll never know.<br><br>The one precondition that is never there is a  necessity to concede anyhing, discuss anything, or agree to anything. we don't want to.<br>It's a question of being open for opportunitie.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:43:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "runasim", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517163": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Come on Jill... you can do better than this Maureen Dowd kind of thing.<br><br>It's a tired old story: Democrats are all gay or gender confused while Republicans are all manly courageous men.<br><br>It's as trivial as it is untrue.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_09:59:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisWWW", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517293": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lol - I bet you are right! lol", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:16:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517222, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517170": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Edwards is more Metro than Barry, manicured hands down.<br>or as they say at my salon manny-cure.<br>Then again, I have hot women give me manicures while I sit and have a beer, does that make me less manly?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_09:59:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "RememberNovember", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518067": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "ThunderMonkey - LOVE it! lol yup - think of the movie Amadeus. Totally.<br><br>Sigh.<br><br>Yeah - I don't know - I think some of it is a fear-thing - fearing how one really is - but in the end, doesn't it all come back to the problem with \"genderizing\" this stuff - like it's all \"BAD\" v. \"GOOD\"?<br><br>I hate that.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:55:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517643, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518709": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i> I think that Obama would be open to trying to negotiate with Iran some solution re: Iraq while leaving their sponsorship of terrorist groups in general off the table until another time. I'm sure that the current Administration tries to do stuff like this privately, but in public they say it's all or nothing.</i><br>But that's not true- the Bush administration HAS negotiated with Iran regarding Iraq security. In fact to me it's almost the opposite of what you are saying- Bush is handling things bit by bit by participating only in the lower level talks, but if you advocate for a summit, that's like saying that we're going to deal with things from the top down or as a whole.<br><br>And I also disagree with the way you and Chris oppose the \"ultimatum\". That's one way to characterize it, I suppose, but really it's disingenuous to sit down with someone for negotiations on a topic that you are unwilling to really negotiate. And certainly sponsorship of terrorism should be nonnegotiable.<br><br>There's also the idea behind the Bush approach of isolationism that it is the best leverage we have to force regime change by internal forces- because if the moderates in Iran see that they'll get nowhere with Ahmadinejad, they're more likely to push him out the door and replace him with someone that is more moderate.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:18:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517046": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hmm. Interesting. Well, since I'm in the midwest, do you think there are regional definitions? Not defending the commenter but he's a writer who does a fair amount of teaching. Before being sure he's got it wrong, and since I know nothing about metrosexuals really, what do you think - Midwest versus East Coast?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_09:40:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517943": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "vwcat wrote: \"I honestly do not believe in all the silly labels and Mark Penn like boxes. Obama is simply very typical of male gen x'ers who don't need to play act cowboy like boomers feel they have to.<br>He is very much like most of men of his generation and they have outgrown the old school posturing.<br>Apparently the media is still stuck back in the old boxes and thinking.\"<br><br>I agree 100% and I believe this explains EXACTLY why I've never heard of this comparison, analogy or garbage, if you like. :)  Because I do not read the stuff that promotes such dichotomies.  The follow up comments at my blog where the comment was first posted indicate that this dichotomy, as much as the commenter feels it will in fact affect the voter outcome, definitely shows that the thinking has a lot to do with the person thinking it.<br><br>Thanks.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:39:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517374, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518200": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "GreenDreams - what you write is consistent with what the commenter subsequently wrote - he'd also linked recently to an article I think from Scientific American maybe? That was about the brain/neural functions and these biases.  That's probably why he made this comment about metrosexual and the impact of such perceptions in the first place.<br><br>Again - it obviously wasn't anything I knew anything about - and I wanted to elicit some ideas of how to look at it - frankly because I would reject right out of hand - but - as we can see from these comments, well - we dismiss it but it isn't quite as simple.<br><br>Thanks.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_12:09:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 518027, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519499": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Getting back to the post, I see where opinions about being metrosexual are very much like the arguments about  preconditions and negotions.<br><br>It's about appearance vs substance.<br>Bling ves the single flawless diamond.  <br>Placing  the appearance of strength above  using actual strength wisely.  <br><br>The manliest man is seldom the one needing to brag about his manliness.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:57:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "runasim", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517023": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't think he really knows what a metrosexual is at all, since Obama doesn't fit any of the qualities. It sounds like it's just a smear since he doesn't go around strutting and say he is macho and all that (which is ironic since that's what metrosexuals <i>actually</i> do, Wikipedia has a quote: \"The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis \u2013 because that's where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.\") and is just a replacement for calling him effeminate or gay seeming.<br><br>Obama basically said that Michelle still has to pick out his suits...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_09:37:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "mikkel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517438": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<blockquote>Apparently the media is still stuck back in the old boxes and thinking.</blockquote><br>It's what the media knows how to cover because it requires absolutely no critical thinking or actual journalism. It should be no surprise our national discourse is dominated by such trivialities.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:37:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisWWW", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519171": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "MIKKEL made a very important observationa aobut negotions.  and how defining prexonditons has become sullied.<br>As James Baker recently said,  the combination of diplomacy and talks (whether or not they contain the nitty grity of  negotiationg specific details )  is a long term commitment.<br>You talk and talk making diplomatic arguments, and what has repeatedly happened  is that an opening for meaningful resolution rises out of the very process of talking.   <br><br>This kind of process can fail, of course, and that's why the participants must be profesional experts, chosen for their talents, not party loyalty.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:21:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "runasim", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517441": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Jill- FWIW I think this stuff is garbage in the sense of being an overblown stereotype- but I think like all stereotypes it reflects a kernel of truth in terms of how conservatives view gender roles vs. how liberals view them (which is to say, in very generalized terms, that conservatives tend to gravitate toward the more defined traditional roles- and despite what liberals think, that's not necessarily due to bigotry against homosexuals, transgender people, or effeminate men/ less effeminate women. I think it can be a valid preference in choosing a leader- if one just doesn't have the response to a nontraditional leadership style, then one isn't going to 'follow' or get behind a candidate like that.)<br><br>And it plays into the political preferences in terms of whether one thinks that political differences are best solved by having the opposing ideas defeated, or by having a softer, more compromising approach. Plus, obviously on foreign policy some people feel that hawkishness is a necessity and that a more pacifistic approach leads to rogue dictators testing signs of weakness against us.<br><br>And while Obama certainly isn't a stereotypical metrosexual, I think some people are going there just because stylistically he's not a traditionally masculine type of leader. It is, I'm sure, for some, a way of framing it in an insulting way because as mikkel points out, in some regions the term metrosexual certainly isn't a compliment. But the underlying reasons that it's considered unflattering are the same reasons that some people just aren't responding to Obama the way his supporters are, I think. That said, though, I think that any impression of him not being tough enough is mostly incorrect, because it seems to me that he just chooses to respond to things in a measured way (not that he's unable to respond forcefully.) I happen to think that he doesn't always choose the right time or the right degree of response- but that's just my personal opinion and I do feel that the idea of controlling one's responses instead of blustering or blowing up is on balance a very good thing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:38:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518082": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "RememberNovember: Hmm, I suppose.  I don't know - maybe it's also time to turn this on the writers - journalists and their editors included: this is what THEY are worried about - and what that says about THEM, not us.<br><br>Ok - my head is starting to hurt.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:57:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517663, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517643": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "By the very defition of a metrosexual... (a guy that spends a great deal of time and money on his appearence)... just about all politicians, especially the ones that run for president, are basically a metrosexual... even McCain.<br><br>I think it has less to do with being effiminate, but rather vanity in one's appearence. Generally, gay men take more pride in their appearence than the majority of hetero men. Thus, the reason why metrosexual is often misplaced for one's actual sexuality or effiminate behavior.<br><br>We gotta remember that men were the first to wear make-up, hose, wigs and high heels.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:04:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "ThunderMonkey", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517835": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "As a former college jock and full-blown frat boy, I can honestly say that Obama is NO metrosexual.  In fact, he reminds me of those type of cool guys that you think are sort of soft but will put the hammer down on you when you least expect it.  I can tell you this, you don't hear the black community (on average) thinking he's metrosexual.  They think he's a \"cool cat\".  Just like black folks think Clinton (Hillary) is a \"tough cookie\" and McCain is the \"old fella\".<br><br>Cool Cat, Tough Cookie, and Old Fella...  Sounds like a SNL or MAD TV superhero spoof.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:26:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "T_Steel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "520268": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Haha I originally agreed that it was a euphemism! That Bush used one, and now Obama is using another one to distance himself from Bush. If Obama was completely honest he would just say \"I'm going to set preconditions but I think it means something different than what other people mean. They have the wrong preconditions.\" I think that is why Biden et. al have tried to couch it even while agreeing with the underlying premise. Biden never really cares about the politically correct thing to say.<br><br>It's just another context in politics where the players have to say what they do to play roles instead of reality. If we keep agreeing we'll get into a big fight.<br><br>I do disagree with this: \"I think all of the delinking- put aside Hezbollah, etc- is considered dangerous by everyone except the far left\" considering that's a fundamental characteristic of the Realist school of foreign policy which dominated the Cold War and was seen as conservative. <br><br>Although you can argue that our policies then hurt us in the present, but it is kind of ironic that the statement \"we should negotiate with Iran about our own interests while setting aside some things that are bad but don't affect us a while lot\" could be construed as Left. Liberals are supposed to be the Utopian ones that look for universal solutions! I think a lot of times people get caught up in arguing over strategic intentions by criticizing tactics.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_16:37:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "mikkel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 519227, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517710": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<blockquote>Plus, obviously on foreign policy some people feel that hawkishness is a necessity and that a more pacifistic approach leads to rogue dictators testing signs of weakness against us.</blockquote><br><br>How well has that approach worked with Cuba and with China (before Nixon)?<br><br><blockquote>I think it can be a valid preference in choosing a leader- if one just doesn't have the response to a nontraditional leadership style, then one isn't going to 'follow' or get behind a candidate like that.</blockquote><br>It's about as valid as not voting for someone because you think he's a secret Muslim.<br><br><blockquote>And it plays into the political preferences in terms of whether one thinks that political differences are best solved by having the opposing ideas defeated, or by having a softer, more compromising approach.</blockquote><br>You're stretching this way too far. It plays into anti-gay sentiment, not leadership style.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:12:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisWWW", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519177": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, pretty much a published institution has an entire staff of people who decide what runs and what doesn't( and leaves us to decide what SHOULD, most times).<br><br>For me, Metrosexual originally meant risky business on a DC subway.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:21:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "RememberNovember", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 518082, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519227": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>I'm saying that the term has become loaded politically and so what he says is just responding to that. Many terms now have implicit political meanings and the response is more about that than the definition.</i><br>Uh, OK, but isn't that pretty much saying that he's then choosing a euphemism, which was what I said and you disputed? LOL, I'm not trying to pick, honestly- just pointing that out and hope you can see the humor in my point. It's like my use of euphemism ends up being another politically loaded term (has a bit of a derogatory connotation to say that someone is using one) so you object to me calling it that even though you then describe his rationale for using a different term which is pretty much definitional for use of a euphemism.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_14:27:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517203": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If I had to guess, more generational. There are a ton of metrosexuals at John Carroll in Cleveland for instance (and an increasing number at Case it seems) and we use the same definition. <br><br>From the article that wikipedia referenced, he left out a big profession and that's business/lawyer types, especially young middle managers or business students. But when I think of metrosexual the last thing I think of is doing community work and raising a family. And I seem to have missed out on the last time Obama went clubbing to make a scene.<br><br>On the other hand it is definitely regional in the sense that places like Louisiana it'd be an insult to call someone metrosexual, while in New York who cares. So perhaps he has been used to kids using it to deride other people and used it himself. (Amongst my friends it's a term of derision not because of a supposed lack of machoism, but because of the highly narcissistic aspect. I hypothesize that my freshman roomate -- who was a metrosexual by any sense of the term -- used to bring women back into his room so he could look  admire himself in the mirror in sexualized terms: he literally put up a mirror in a spot where it'd only make sense if you were on his bed!)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:03:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "mikkel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518743": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And one more thing, about whether 'preconditions' or 'preparations' is the more honest and forthright terminology. If by preparations you just mean doing your homework and understanding as much as possible what your opponent thinks, then yes, that's an honest term. But Obama (and certainly his surrogates) has at times defined preparations as the lower level talks which are done to find out if there is actual room for negotiation- is the other party willing to give up certain things and is there something they want from us that we're willing to give. He's then said that if those lower level talks reach a dead end, then the high level talks would not take place. So how in the world is that not a \"precondition', when you take that word at face value to mean that a condition must be met before the action is taken? If he's only arguing about specific preconditions which Bush uses but he would not, then he should say so, so that everyone can understand exactly what he thinks is necessary before the high level talks can possibly be productive.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:23:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517336": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I wonder if Obamama would look more manly in a flight suit, with a cod piece  and on board an aircraft carrier? Would this be more offensive if someone said Clinton is a (l)thespian?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:22:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rudi", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518110": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris - now see what I mean? I would NEVER have this frame of reference.  When someone in Ohio refers to metrosexual, I would ASSUME they are referring to anyone who lives in a city like Chicago or NYC.  The sexual orientation wouldn't kick in for me at all.<br><br>Wow.<br><br>Thanks for commenting.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_12:00:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517710, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "519775": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Runasim: bingo: \"The manliest man is seldom the one needing to brag about his manliness.\"<br><br>Why did anyone even have to create this word?  ugh :)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_15:27:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 519499, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517728": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "CS I agree in general with what you've said and think it's very weird that most people think that overbearing people are tough. In my personal experience, a sense of balance is the most disarming and powerful weapon in a disagreement. The key is to have a guiding set of principles and don't compromise on those, but be flexible about the implementation and auxiliary issues. It's always really easy for me to win over a \"macho\" person or at least take away his power amongst everyone else when there is a conflict because it takes too much energy for them to stay aggressive and they often have undefined goals that are contradictory. (Now I would agree that they probably make better military commanders on the whole. But that goes back to my belief that military leadership has almost no correlation with effectiveness for political leaders.) I wish that there was an actual debate on whether we think Obama is capable of realizing his own vision.<br><br>BTW I saw you asked a long time ago what Obama's policy on negotiation is. Now, from what I've read that is very hard to define because there is no set answer. I've gotten the impression that his approach is to agree to talk to anyone (except Hamas but I think that is a political issue and not a special caveat in his ideals) with a very clear understanding of what we need out of the situation to come to an agreement in any circumstances. The point of the negotiations would be to figure out what the other side's must haves are and see whether there is any sort of compatibility. His focus wouldn't be to get a deal done at any cost, just to help guide his overall strategy. Sometimes you just can't come to an agreement and have to focus on containment.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:15:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "mikkel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518499": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well, it IS a euphemism, but I'd argue that the euphemism is \"preconditions.\" When the Bush administration has used the term preconditions it normally means \"the other side will have to agree to give us what we want, and then we'll sit down and figure out their reward\" which is highly condescending. That's not a precondition, that's an ultimatum.<br><br>In the past the preconditions would be that the other side is even capable of acting in good faith in following the agreement and that there is any mutual outcome that could ever be reached. I think the negotiations with the Soviets showed that time and again the two superpowers satisfied these preconditions even as they actively sought to undermine each other in general.<br><br>The other problem with the Bush use of preconditions is that they are heavily focused in trying to get everything done at once (at least that's the public image) rather than making individual topics. I think that Obama would be open to trying to negotiate with Iran some solution re: Iraq while leaving their sponsorship of terrorist groups in general off the table until another time. I'm sure that the current Administration tries to do stuff like this privately, but in public they say it's all or nothing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_12:51:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "mikkel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 518014, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518629": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"It's a tired old story: Democrats are all gay or gender confused while Republicans are all manly courageous men.<br><br>It's as trivial as it is untrue.\"<br><br>You nailed right there.   The old chestnut of liberals being girly men and republicans being big tough men smoking cigarettes on their horses.   Its a theme Bush has repeated played up to in photo ops because it works.   So many  people don't know how to unravel what they know from their gut impressions.   <br><br>Take the swiftboating of Kerry.   One candidate actually volunteered for service, and was in fact leading boats into action in the deltas, blowing away viet cong and getting shot at.    Another candidate's connections kept him off the front lines, home even, where he wouldn't have to fight.   Yet it was the war record of the first man that was called into question not the second in the last election.  Why?  Kerry doesn't look like a guy who did those things, therefore it was easy to think that he never did.   You know, if you're gullible, and so many are.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:09:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "Slamfu", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517222": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The writer of that article in the Kennebec Journal is probably Bush's bait shop owner.<br>Bush is the ultimate puppet of the Kirkpatrick/Cheney coalition for world domination.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:05:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "RememberNovember", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518897": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CS I'm not disagreeing that Obama isn't going to have preconditions. I'm saying that the term has become loaded politically and so what he says is just responding to that. Many terms now have implicit political meanings and the response is more about that than the definition.<br><br>As for the Iran talks, I've heard that they never had the support of a lot of people at the top and the diplomats/Rice basically got hung out to dry. They went over to see if Iran was willing to stop all the meddling in Iraq but really had no ability to make it worthwhile for them. Iran wanted a security guarantee which they could not be given and the talks never really got underway. In that particular example, Iran's influence in Iraq is extremely important for them to try and dissuade us from attacking over their nuclear program, so I'm not sure they can be separated. When thinking of separation I was thinking more about their support for Hezbollah.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:40:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "mikkel", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518130": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Re: Mikkel I am telling you - we need a Youtube of \"what a leader looks like\" to go with that first graph of your comment (from 12:15pm).  Fascinating.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_12:02:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "Jillmz", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 517728, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518644": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<blockquote>When the Bush administration has used the term preconditions it normally means \"the other side will have to agree to give us what we want, and then we'll sit down and figure out their reward\" which is highly condescending. That's not a precondition, that's an ultimatum.</blockquote><br><br>Exactly.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_13:10:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisWWW", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "517374": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Give me a break.  This focus on Bush like pretend machismo is stupid.  What did it get us?  Look at our country and what a pretend macho guy brought us to.<br>I honestly do not believe in all the silly labels and Mark Penn like boxes.  Obama is simply very typical of male gen x'ers who don't need to play act cowboy like boomers feel they have to.<br>He is very much like most of men of his generation and they have outgrown the old school posturing.<br>Apparently the media is still stuck back in the old boxes and thinking.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_10:28:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "vwcat", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "518014": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>I wish that there was an actual debate on whether we think Obama is capable of realizing his own vision.</i><br>Hear, hear.<br><br>And although it's OT, thanks for addressing my question about policy of engagement/talking/diplomacy, mikkel. Let  me ask you this- would you agree that Biden and others (even to some extent his staff, like Rice) are dialing back on what Obama has said? I mean, Biden even went so far as to say basically that Obama erred in his debate response. And to me it seems like even Obama's now saying that before he'd meet face to face with leaders he'd have to have preparations which would include lower level talks to determine whether or not the other leader is willing to give up certain things. And if I'm not mistaken, he even said that the higher level talks would then not proceed if that wasn't going to happen.<br><br>So how is that any different from setting a precondition for high level talks? Seems like a euphemism to me, substituting preparations for preconditions, and that seems an awful lot like a way to appeal to his base by sounding different than Bush when essentially his approach will be the same.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": false, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-23_11:49:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "CStanley", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "http://themoderatevoice.com/disqus-blank.html", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "803750", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "2724", "hash": 1711688619020627215}, "thread": {"total_posts": 0, "paginate": false, "per_page": 0, "slug": "metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama", "num_pages": 1, "days_alive": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 803750, "num_posts": 50, "closed": true, "queued": false, "killed": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": false, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "8e626a1cbe92745e5f4435bb28791555", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = 'a2d140c59df8cd4ce27a20e0829cacd8';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=themoderatevoice' +
		'&t=metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_default_text) +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showModeratorActions(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL + '</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS + '</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';

			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>'
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button type="button" class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button type="button" class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> ' + Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/uploads/forums/2724//avatar92.jpg';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			var retval = parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
			return !isNaN(retval) ? retval : null;
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">50</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button type="button" class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via <a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? 'BackType' : 'UberVU') + '</a>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p>Comments for this page are closed.</p>\n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on The Moderate Voice" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:803750" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'themoderatevoice',
			't'				: 'metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'metrosexuals_versus_manly_men_a_reason_voters_will_prefer_mccain_to_obama'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button type="button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

  this.showModeratorActions = function() {
      if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
          return;
      }

      var html = '<div class="dsq-moderate-options"><table><tr>' +
                 '<td>' + Dsq.Strings.ACTIONS + '</td><td><ul>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleClosed(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.closed ? Dsq.Strings.OPEN_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.CLOSE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.toggleKilled(); return false;">' +
              (Dsq.jsonData.thread.killed ? Dsq.Strings.RESTORE_THREAD : Dsq.Strings.REMOVE_THREAD) +
              '</a></li>';
      html += '</ul></td></tr></table></div>' +
              '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate-threads/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
      Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, Dsq.Strings.MODERATE_OPTIONS);
  };

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		  var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		  var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		  Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		  status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		  window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};

  this.toggleClosed = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/toggle_thread_closed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };

  this.toggleKilled = function() {
      Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/themoderatevoice/toggle_thread_killed.js', {thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
      window.setTimeout(function() { window.location.reload(); }, 500);
  };
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/803750/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
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<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-517835">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517835" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517835" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517835" href="http://themoderatevoice.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">T-Steel</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517835" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517835" class="dsq-comment-message">As a former college jock and full-blown frat boy, I can honestly say that Obama is NO metrosexual.  In fact, he reminds me of those type of cool guys that you think are sort of soft but will put the hammer down on you when you least expect it.  I can tell you this, you don\'t hear the black community (on average) thinking he\'s metrosexual.  They think he\'s a "cool cat".  Just like black folks think Clinton (Hillary) is a "tough cookie" and McCain is the "old fella".<br><br>Cool Cat, Tough Cookie, and Old Fella...  Sounds like a SNL or MAD TV superhero spoof.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-517023">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517023" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517023" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517023">mikkel</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517023" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517023" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t think he really knows what a metrosexual is at all, since Obama doesn\'t fit any of the qualities. It sounds like it\'s just a smear since he doesn\'t go around strutting and say he is macho and all that (which is ironic since that\'s what metrosexuals <i>actually</i> do, Wikipedia has a quote: "The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis – because that\'s where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they\'re pretty much everywhere.") and is just a replacement for calling him effeminate or gay seeming.<br><br>Obama basically said that Michelle still has to pick out his suits...</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-517046">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517046" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517046" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517046" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517046" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517046" class="dsq-comment-message">Hmm. Interesting. Well, since I\'m in the midwest, do you think there are regional definitions? Not defending the commenter but he\'s a writer who does a fair amount of teaching. Before being sure he\'s got it wrong, and since I know nothing about metrosexuals really, what do you think - Midwest versus East Coast?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-517163">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517163" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517163" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517163" href="http://www.whyweworry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisWWW</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517163" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517163" class="dsq-comment-message">Come on Jill... you can do better than this Maureen Dowd kind of thing.<br><br>It\'s a tired old story: Democrats are all gay or gender confused while Republicans are all manly courageous men.<br><br>It\'s as trivial as it is untrue.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-517203">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517203" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517203" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517203">mikkel</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517203" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517203" class="dsq-comment-message">If I had to guess, more generational. There are a ton of metrosexuals at John Carroll in Cleveland for instance (and an increasing number at Case it seems) and we use the same definition. <br><br>From the article that wikipedia referenced, he left out a big profession and that\'s business/lawyer types, especially young middle managers or business students. But when I think of metrosexual the last thing I think of is doing community work and raising a family. And I seem to have missed out on the last time Obama went clubbing to make a scene.<br><br>On the other hand it is definitely regional in the sense that places like Louisiana it\'d be an insult to call someone metrosexual, while in New York who cares. So perhaps he has been used to kids using it to deride other people and used it himself. (Amongst my friends it\'s a term of derision not because of a supposed lack of machoism, but because of the highly narcissistic aspect. I hypothesize that my freshman roomate -- who was a metrosexual by any sense of the term -- used to bring women back into his room so he could look  admire himself in the mirror in sexualized terms: he literally put up a mirror in a spot where it\'d only make sense if you were on his bed!)</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517222">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517222" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517222" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517222">RememberNovember</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517222" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517222" class="dsq-comment-message">The writer of that article in the Kennebec Journal is probably Bush\'s bait shop owner.<br>Bush is the ultimate puppet of the Kirkpatrick/Cheney coalition for world domination.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517280">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517280" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517280" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517280" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517280" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517280" class="dsq-comment-message">Wait wait wait wait . :)  Are you waiting? :)<br><br>I was floored to get that comment.  I am SINCERELY looking for input on this.  I\'ve never read about it before, I had to Google to see if anyone had.  TMV is a fantastic place to get feedback - come on, I am the messenger here asking for feedback.  Plus, I\'ve know the author of that comment for at least four years so I take what he writes in the context of knowing him and wanted to find out how right OR WRONG he might be.  How else do any of us do that?<br><br>I think YOU can do better than accuse me of...whatever it is you\'re accusing me of (I stopped reading Dowd aboud five months ago - she\'s just getting too out there for me right now).<br><br>So - your opinion on the matter is - this is garbage, correct?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517293">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517293" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517293" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517293" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517293" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517293" class="dsq-comment-message">Lol - I bet you are right! lol</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517336">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517336" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517336" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517336">Rudi</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517336" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517336" class="dsq-comment-message">I wonder if Obamama would look more manly in a flight suit, with a cod piece  and on board an aircraft carrier? Would this be more offensive if someone said Clinton is a (l)thespian?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517374">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517374" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517374" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517374">vwcat</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517374" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517374" class="dsq-comment-message">Give me a break.  This focus on Bush like pretend machismo is stupid.  What did it get us?  Look at our country and what a pretend macho guy brought us to.<br>I honestly do not believe in all the silly labels and Mark Penn like boxes.  Obama is simply very typical of male gen x\'ers who don\'t need to play act cowboy like boomers feel they have to.<br>He is very much like most of men of his generation and they have outgrown the old school posturing.<br>Apparently the media is still stuck back in the old boxes and thinking.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517438">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517438" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517438" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517438" href="http://www.whyweworry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisWWW</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517438" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517438" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>Apparently the media is still stuck back in the old boxes and thinking.</blockquote><br>It\'s what the media knows how to cover because it requires absolutely no critical thinking or actual journalism. It should be no surprise our national discourse is dominated by such trivialities.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517441" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517441" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517441">CStanley</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517441" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517441" class="dsq-comment-message">Jill- FWIW I think this stuff is garbage in the sense of being an overblown stereotype- but I think like all stereotypes it reflects a kernel of truth in terms of how conservatives view gender roles vs. how liberals view them (which is to say, in very generalized terms, that conservatives tend to gravitate toward the more defined traditional roles- and despite what liberals think, that\'s not necessarily due to bigotry against homosexuals, transgender people, or effeminate men/ less effeminate women. I think it can be a valid preference in choosing a leader- if one just doesn\'t have the response to a nontraditional leadership style, then one isn\'t going to \'follow\' or get behind a candidate like that.)<br><br>And it plays into the political preferences in terms of whether one thinks that political differences are best solved by having the opposing ideas defeated, or by having a softer, more compromising approach. Plus, obviously on foreign policy some people feel that hawkishness is a necessity and that a more pacifistic approach leads to rogue dictators testing signs of weakness against us.<br><br>And while Obama certainly isn\'t a stereotypical metrosexual, I think some people are going there just because stylistically he\'s not a traditionally masculine type of leader. It is, I\'m sure, for some, a way of framing it in an insulting way because as mikkel points out, in some regions the term metrosexual certainly isn\'t a compliment. But the underlying reasons that it\'s considered unflattering are the same reasons that some people just aren\'t responding to Obama the way his supporters are, I think. That said, though, I think that any impression of him not being tough enough is mostly incorrect, because it seems to me that he just chooses to respond to things in a measured way (not that he\'s unable to respond forcefully.) I happen to think that he doesn\'t always choose the right time or the right degree of response- but that\'s just my personal opinion and I do feel that the idea of controlling one\'s responses instead of blustering or blowing up is on balance a very good thing.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517643">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517643" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517643" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517643">ThunderMonkey</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517643" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517643" class="dsq-comment-message">By the very defition of a metrosexual... (a guy that spends a great deal of time and money on his appearence)... just about all politicians, especially the ones that run for president, are basically a metrosexual... even McCain.<br><br>I think it has less to do with being effiminate, but rather vanity in one\'s appearence. Generally, gay men take more pride in their appearence than the majority of hetero men. Thus, the reason why metrosexual is often misplaced for one\'s actual sexuality or effiminate behavior.<br><br>We gotta remember that men were the first to wear make-up, hose, wigs and high heels.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517663">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517663" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517663" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517663">RememberNovember</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517663" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517663" class="dsq-comment-message">Perhaps, and this is just one theory, that the media is so softball because it didn\'t have a major conflict to focus on like the old guard Vietnam journalists did. Gulf one, was over and done in 10 days, with video-game footage of bunker busters. VN showed the gruesome body counts on a daily basis.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-517710">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517710" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517710" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517710" href="http://www.whyweworry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisWWW</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517710" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517710" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>Plus, obviously on foreign policy some people feel that hawkishness is a necessity and that a more pacifistic approach leads to rogue dictators testing signs of weakness against us.</blockquote><br><br>How well has that approach worked with Cuba and with China (before Nixon)?<br><br><blockquote>I think it can be a valid preference in choosing a leader- if one just doesn\'t have the response to a nontraditional leadership style, then one isn\'t going to \'follow\' or get behind a candidate like that.</blockquote><br>It\'s about as valid as not voting for someone because you think he\'s a secret Muslim.<br><br><blockquote>And it plays into the political preferences in terms of whether one thinks that political differences are best solved by having the opposing ideas defeated, or by having a softer, more compromising approach.</blockquote><br>You\'re stretching this way too far. It plays into anti-gay sentiment, not leadership style.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517728" class="dsq-comment-message">CS I agree in general with what you\'ve said and think it\'s very weird that most people think that overbearing people are tough. In my personal experience, a sense of balance is the most disarming and powerful weapon in a disagreement. The key is to have a guiding set of principles and don\'t compromise on those, but be flexible about the implementation and auxiliary issues. It\'s always really easy for me to win over a "macho" person or at least take away his power amongst everyone else when there is a conflict because it takes too much energy for them to stay aggressive and they often have undefined goals that are contradictory. (Now I would agree that they probably make better military commanders on the whole. But that goes back to my belief that military leadership has almost no correlation with effectiveness for political leaders.) I wish that there was an actual debate on whether we think Obama is capable of realizing his own vision.<br><br>BTW I saw you asked a long time ago what Obama\'s policy on negotiation is. Now, from what I\'ve read that is very hard to define because there is no set answer. I\'ve gotten the impression that his approach is to agree to talk to anyone (except Hamas but I think that is a political issue and not a special caveat in his ideals) with a very clear understanding of what we need out of the situation to come to an agreement in any circumstances. The point of the negotiations would be to figure out what the other side\'s must haves are and see whether there is any sort of compatibility. His focus wouldn\'t be to get a deal done at any cost, just to help guide his overall strategy. Sometimes you just can\'t come to an agreement and have to focus on containment.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517796">RememberNovember</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517796" class="dsq-comment-message">all it is , is another label to hang on your opponent...and a way to deflect from the real issues and avoid being anything of substance.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-517943" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517943" class="dsq-comment-message">vwcat wrote: "I honestly do not believe in all the silly labels and Mark Penn like boxes. Obama is simply very typical of male gen x\'ers who don\'t need to play act cowboy like boomers feel they have to.<br>He is very much like most of men of his generation and they have outgrown the old school posturing.<br>Apparently the media is still stuck back in the old boxes and thinking."<br><br>I agree 100% and I believe this explains EXACTLY why I\'ve never heard of this comparison, analogy or garbage, if you like. :)  Because I do not read the stuff that promotes such dichotomies.  The follow up comments at my blog where the comment was first posted indicate that this dichotomy, as much as the commenter feels it will in fact affect the voter outcome, definitely shows that the thinking has a lot to do with the person thinking it.<br><br>Thanks.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-518014">CStanley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518014" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>I wish that there was an actual debate on whether we think Obama is capable of realizing his own vision.</i><br>Hear, hear.<br><br>And although it\'s OT, thanks for addressing my question about policy of engagement/talking/diplomacy, mikkel. Let  me ask you this- would you agree that Biden and others (even to some extent his staff, like Rice) are dialing back on what Obama has said? I mean, Biden even went so far as to say basically that Obama erred in his debate response. And to me it seems like even Obama\'s now saying that before he\'d meet face to face with leaders he\'d have to have preparations which would include lower level talks to determine whether or not the other leader is willing to give up certain things. And if I\'m not mistaken, he even said that the higher level talks would then not proceed if that wasn\'t going to happen.<br><br>So how is that any different from setting a precondition for high level talks? Seems like a euphemism to me, substituting preparations for preconditions, and that seems an awful lot like a way to appeal to his base by sounding different than Bush when essentially his approach will be the same.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518027" class="dsq-comment-message">The more troublesome aspect of this focus on appearances is dealt with in the book <i>Blink</i>, which deals with unconscious bias and snap decisions. <br><br>Sometimes these are uncannily accurate, while other times they lead us into disastrous decisions. A great example of the latter is covered in a chapter devoted to Warren Harding, one of our worst presidents, who ascended to that role by "looking" presidential and having a deep sonorous voice. The author, Malcolm Gladwell, points out that our top corporations are overwhelmingly run by white men of exceptional height. While none of the boards of directors who choose these CEOs would claim that being tall has anything to do with being competent, the facts are overwhelming that they are unconsciously predisposed toward tall men. We don\'t choose to be biased in the ways we are, and we can overcome them, but our predispositions are clearly there, and you can explore some of your own through Harvard\'s Implicit Associations Test, <a href="https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-518048" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518048" class="dsq-comment-message">CStanley - this is a REALLY interesting comment!  You know what it makes me think of? It reminds me of how I feel about the word feminism - it just doesn\'t mean nearly the same thing to nearly enough people anymore.  There is a good youtube of "what does a feminist look like."<br><br>Maybe we need a youtube of "what does a leader look like."<br><br>Anybody game?<br><br>For the record, I\'m with you re: the label is intended to encompass certain behaviors or choices or someething - but I think that that word is so limited - I mean, I read more than 350 RSS feeds! I never once seen this, and yet the person who left the comment - he is absolutely well-read.  He and I also disagree on a LOT of stuff, esp. related to gender.  But the fact that he would assert that he believes people will find that this matters is what made me want to hear more.<br><br>I\'m very sorry at these times for the one-dimensional nature of the web.  Those who may remember a few months back, I wrote about whether or not what Obama had done, at that time, vis a vis Rev. Wright was enough - and I wanted to know what people thought, from an academic point, was the tipping point where we ALL say to people we followed, that we now diverge too much.<br><br>I got SLAMMED for asking that - like I had a secret mission.<br><br>I swear to you - I just ask questions few others will - either because I\'m dumb, naive or - hey - just really want to know!<br><br>It truly is because I really want to know.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518067" class="dsq-comment-message">ThunderMonkey - LOVE it! lol yup - think of the movie Amadeus. Totally.<br><br>Sigh.<br><br>Yeah - I don\'t know - I think some of it is a fear-thing - fearing how one really is - but in the end, doesn\'t it all come back to the problem with "genderizing" this stuff - like it\'s all "BAD" v. "GOOD"?<br><br>I hate that.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518082" class="dsq-comment-message">RememberNovember: Hmm, I suppose.  I don\'t know - maybe it\'s also time to turn this on the writers - journalists and their editors included: this is what THEY are worried about - and what that says about THEM, not us.<br><br>Ok - my head is starting to hurt.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518110" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris - now see what I mean? I would NEVER have this frame of reference.  When someone in Ohio refers to metrosexual, I would ASSUME they are referring to anyone who lives in a city like Chicago or NYC.  The sexual orientation wouldn\'t kick in for me at all.<br><br>Wow.<br><br>Thanks for commenting.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518130" class="dsq-comment-message">Re: Mikkel I am telling you - we need a Youtube of "what a leader looks like" to go with that first graph of your comment (from 12:15pm).  Fascinating.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518153" class="dsq-comment-message">Lol , T-Steel- thank you again. <br><br>So let me ask then - covering myself for fear - so - then, it is NOT cool to be a metrosexual?<br><br>Maybe I should say here that I remember a movie from a long time ago called Metropolitan about rich white kids in NYC who thought they were cool and they really were just asses.  I would think that they would be "metrosexual" but they certainly thought they were cool.<br><br>Are we at the point with language where our diversity as a society has made it really hard to know what each other means????</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518179" class="dsq-comment-message">T Steel - interesting!!! Obama gets "cat" which is feline, Clinton gets cookie which is baking and McCain gets...fella! lol  oy I have to stop.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518200" class="dsq-comment-message">GreenDreams - what you write is consistent with what the commenter subsequently wrote - he\'d also linked recently to an article I think from Scientific American maybe? That was about the brain/neural functions and these biases.  That\'s probably why he made this comment about metrosexual and the impact of such perceptions in the first place.<br><br>Again - it obviously wasn\'t anything I knew anything about - and I wanted to elicit some ideas of how to look at it - frankly because I would reject right out of hand - but - as we can see from these comments, well - we dismiss it but it isn\'t quite as simple.<br><br>Thanks.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518499" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, it IS a euphemism, but I\'d argue that the euphemism is "preconditions." When the Bush administration has used the term preconditions it normally means "the other side will have to agree to give us what we want, and then we\'ll sit down and figure out their reward" which is highly condescending. That\'s not a precondition, that\'s an ultimatum.<br><br>In the past the preconditions would be that the other side is even capable of acting in good faith in following the agreement and that there is any mutual outcome that could ever be reached. I think the negotiations with the Soviets showed that time and again the two superpowers satisfied these preconditions even as they actively sought to undermine each other in general.<br><br>The other problem with the Bush use of preconditions is that they are heavily focused in trying to get everything done at once (at least that\'s the public image) rather than making individual topics. I think that Obama would be open to trying to negotiate with Iran some solution re: Iraq while leaving their sponsorship of terrorist groups in general off the table until another time. I\'m sure that the current Administration tries to do stuff like this privately, but in public they say it\'s all or nothing.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518629" class="dsq-comment-message">"It\'s a tired old story: Democrats are all gay or gender confused while Republicans are all manly courageous men.<br><br>It\'s as trivial as it is untrue."<br><br>You nailed right there.   The old chestnut of liberals being girly men and republicans being big tough men smoking cigarettes on their horses.   Its a theme Bush has repeated played up to in photo ops because it works.   So many  people don\'t know how to unravel what they know from their gut impressions.   <br><br>Take the swiftboating of Kerry.   One candidate actually volunteered for service, and was in fact leading boats into action in the deltas, blowing away viet cong and getting shot at.    Another candidate\'s connections kept him off the front lines, home even, where he wouldn\'t have to fight.   Yet it was the war record of the first man that was called into question not the second in the last election.  Why?  Kerry doesn\'t look like a guy who did those things, therefore it was easy to think that he never did.   You know, if you\'re gullible, and so many are.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-518644" href="http://www.whyweworry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisWWW</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518644" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>When the Bush administration has used the term preconditions it normally means "the other side will have to agree to give us what we want, and then we\'ll sit down and figure out their reward" which is highly condescending. That\'s not a precondition, that\'s an ultimatum.</blockquote><br><br>Exactly.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518688" class="dsq-comment-message">Slamfu I agree 100% but WHY WHY WHY then did Kerry do that hunting thing when he was in the race?  He looked ridiculous!  And when I saw the photo, I assumed he was doing it to show, Hey! I hunt! Man hold gun!  Ugga Ugga.<br><br>Again - totally turns me off, but obviously someone advised him that he had to do it.<br><br>So what do we do - I mean - isn\'t perpetuating that and candidates letting letting their supporters or advisors tell them that they have to be seen doing x, y or z just as bad as actually believing what the commenter does all on his own?<br><br>I don\'t know - you know - for example, I think of Ann Richards - now I do not believe that there was much that that woman showed us that wasn\'t really who she was.  I could be wrong - I didn\'t chronicle her or anything.<br><br>But I don\'t think she is the norm.  Even Edwards\' haircut silliness plays into all this.<br><br>How do we get them to just let us see them as they are if they are also going around and "playing types" for different constituencies?<br><br>And I do mean all candidates - I\'m sure someone can come up with plenty about Clinton too.<br><br>This is one reason why, athough it\'s impossible, it sure would be nice if each of us could meet each of them in a much more up close and personal way than photo ops and so on.<br><br>Sigh.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-518709">CStanley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518709" class="dsq-comment-message"><i> I think that Obama would be open to trying to negotiate with Iran some solution re: Iraq while leaving their sponsorship of terrorist groups in general off the table until another time. I\'m sure that the current Administration tries to do stuff like this privately, but in public they say it\'s all or nothing.</i><br>But that\'s not true- the Bush administration HAS negotiated with Iran regarding Iraq security. In fact to me it\'s almost the opposite of what you are saying- Bush is handling things bit by bit by participating only in the lower level talks, but if you advocate for a summit, that\'s like saying that we\'re going to deal with things from the top down or as a whole.<br><br>And I also disagree with the way you and Chris oppose the "ultimatum". That\'s one way to characterize it, I suppose, but really it\'s disingenuous to sit down with someone for negotiations on a topic that you are unwilling to really negotiate. And certainly sponsorship of terrorism should be nonnegotiable.<br><br>There\'s also the idea behind the Bush approach of isolationism that it is the best leverage we have to force regime change by internal forces- because if the moderates in Iran see that they\'ll get nowhere with Ahmadinejad, they\'re more likely to push him out the door and replace him with someone that is more moderate.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518743" class="dsq-comment-message">And one more thing, about whether \'preconditions\' or \'preparations\' is the more honest and forthright terminology. If by preparations you just mean doing your homework and understanding as much as possible what your opponent thinks, then yes, that\'s an honest term. But Obama (and certainly his surrogates) has at times defined preparations as the lower level talks which are done to find out if there is actual room for negotiation- is the other party willing to give up certain things and is there something they want from us that we\'re willing to give. He\'s then said that if those lower level talks reach a dead end, then the high level talks would not take place. So how in the world is that not a "precondition\', when you take that word at face value to mean that a condition must be met before the action is taken? If he\'s only arguing about specific preconditions which Bush uses but he would not, then he should say so, so that everyone can understand exactly what he thinks is necessary before the high level talks can possibly be productive.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-518851" href="http://www.whyweworry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisWWW</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518851" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>And certainly sponsorship of terrorism should be nonnegotiable.</blockquote><br>And I suppose they could demand we dismantle our CIA or end our immoral occupation of Iraq. Or make us pay reparations for overthrowing their government and supporting the Shah. <br><br>Both sides can come up with hundreds of excuses to hold grudges and not talk to each other. Or we can all grow up and sit down and try to hash things out. If that doesn\'t work, we\'ll at least know that violence was the last option not the first.<br><br><blockquote>There\'s also the idea behind the Bush approach of isolationism that it is the best leverage we have to force regime change by internal forces- because if the moderates in Iran see that they\'ll get nowhere with Ahmadinejad, they\'re more likely to push him out the door and replace him with someone that is more moderate.</blockquote><br>And it didn\'t work in Iraq. It hasn\'t worked in Cuba. It didn\'t work with China. It didn\'t work with North Korea. That idea has been thoroughly trampled on by history. And remember Ahmadinejad doesn\'t call the shots in Iran.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-518897" class="dsq-comment-message">CS I\'m not disagreeing that Obama isn\'t going to have preconditions. I\'m saying that the term has become loaded politically and so what he says is just responding to that. Many terms now have implicit political meanings and the response is more about that than the definition.<br><br>As for the Iran talks, I\'ve heard that they never had the support of a lot of people at the top and the diplomats/Rice basically got hung out to dry. They went over to see if Iran was willing to stop all the meddling in Iraq but really had no ability to make it worthwhile for them. Iran wanted a security guarantee which they could not be given and the talks never really got underway. In that particular example, Iran\'s influence in Iraq is extremely important for them to try and dissuade us from attacking over their nuclear program, so I\'m not sure they can be separated. When thinking of separation I was thinking more about their support for Hezbollah.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519171" class="dsq-comment-message">MIKKEL made a very important observationa aobut negotions.  and how defining prexonditons has become sullied.<br>As James Baker recently said,  the combination of diplomacy and talks (whether or not they contain the nitty grity of  negotiationg specific details )  is a long term commitment.<br>You talk and talk making diplomatic arguments, and what has repeatedly happened  is that an opening for meaningful resolution rises out of the very process of talking.   <br><br>This kind of process can fail, of course, and that\'s why the participants must be profesional experts, chosen for their talents, not party loyalty.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-519177">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519177" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519177" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519177">RememberNovember</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519177" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, pretty much a published institution has an entire staff of people who decide what runs and what doesn\'t( and leaves us to decide what SHOULD, most times).<br><br>For me, Metrosexual originally meant risky business on a DC subway.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-519198">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519198" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519198" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519198">RememberNovember</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519198" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519198" class="dsq-comment-message">Hah, ex-Greek here too, Alpha Tau Omega</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519227" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519227" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519227">CStanley</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519227" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519227" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>I\'m saying that the term has become loaded politically and so what he says is just responding to that. Many terms now have implicit political meanings and the response is more about that than the definition.</i><br>Uh, OK, but isn\'t that pretty much saying that he\'s then choosing a euphemism, which was what I said and you disputed? LOL, I\'m not trying to pick, honestly- just pointing that out and hope you can see the humor in my point. It\'s like my use of euphemism ends up being another politically loaded term (has a bit of a derogatory connotation to say that someone is using one) so you object to me calling it that even though you then describe his rationale for using a different term which is pretty much definitional for use of a euphemism.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519298" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519298" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519298">CStanley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519298" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519298" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris, again, this is a case where we\'ll never see eye to eye. Just about every case where you say that a hardline approach has failed, or where you see that a \'talking\' approach succeeds, my view is that you need the combination of the two. Nixon going to China is kind of the classic example of what I\'m talking about- had China been given formal diplomatic status and full access earlier on, the rapprochement wouldn\'t have been possible.<br><br>And Mikkel, on the Iran/Iraq negotiations, that\'s pretty much he said- she said stuff, so it\'s a bit hard to form a conclusion. Obviously Iran having backed out of the talks means that they either weren\'t getting what they wanted (which could mean the US wasn\'t willing to give as much as we should have or it could mean that their demands were unreasonable, or some combination) or that they found that their best approach was to score propaganda by portraying it as though the US was the impediment to progress. My guess is that it was all of the above, and that the bottom line is that there are some really unbridgeable differences in our self interests. I think a much more creative third way must be found before any progress can be made- and as I alluded to the propaganda interest, this means to me that talking just for the sake of talking is pretty risky.<br><br>And really the point I\'m trying to get at about the doubletalk about Obama\'s proposed policies is that I think it shows that underneath it all, neither the current adminstration nor their opponents really do think that unconditional talks should be on the table- but politically the liberal side has to portray it that way to their base. I think all of the delinking- put aside Hezbollah, etc- is considered dangerous by everyone except the far left- and even the politicians who want to get the support of the left wing realize that they have to do a bait and switch because that kind of diplomacy really does embolden terrorists and nations that support it. If they really thought that we should be more accomodating like that, I don\'t think there would be this effort by seasoned pols like Biden to \'correct\' Obama\'s statements.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519336" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519336" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519336">runasim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519336" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519336" class="dsq-comment-message">CStanley,<br>"certainly sponsorship of terrorism should be nonnegotiable."<br><br>So, don\'t negotiatie it.<br><br>No one should divulge their  whole geme plan before sitting down.<br>Talks/  usually about a specific probelm, not about every issue. and  general world views.<br>The US cut off avenues for gaining specific benefits by making the conditions for talking too broad.<br>Had there been ongoing talks all along, the use of diplomacy might have left an opening to bring in the question of terrorism, but now we\'ll never know.<br><br>The one precondition that is never there is a  necessity to concede anyhing, discuss anything, or agree to anything. we don\'t want to.<br>It\'s a question of being open for opportunitie.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-519430">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519430" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519430" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519430">CStanley</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519430" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519430" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>The one precondition that is never there is a necessity to concede anyhing, discuss anything, or agree to anything. we don\'t want to.<br>It\'s a question of being open for opportunitie</i><br>But that\'s whats done in the lower channels, which have been open all along. What I\'m pointing out is that that\'s exactly what Obama is now saying he\'ll do too- because if the \'preparation\' doesn\'t bear fruit, then the high level talk doesn\'t make any sense (again, it would be disingenuous to sit down for negotiations about say, support of Hezbollah if our position is that there is no support of Hezbollah that is acceptable to us- and the other party would rightfully say that you were coming to the negotiating table in bad faith if you didn\'t announce ahead of time your intent to take that position. Ditto for nukes, assuming we hold to the position that a suspension of uranium enrichment is nonnegotiable.)<br><br>Preconditions are really just the honest announcement of intentions. If there was a condition that the other side considered nonnegotiable, we would also want them to admit that upfront rather than wasting our time- and if they came to the table saying that they wanted to negotiate on a particular topic but then showed up at the talks and refused to consider any movement from their current position, we\'d rightly walk away with the PR victory there because we\'d announce "well, we tried, but they aren\'t willing to negotiate in good faith."</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-519499">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519499" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519499" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519499">runasim</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519499" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519499" class="dsq-comment-message">Getting back to the post, I see where opinions about being metrosexual are very much like the arguments about  preconditions and negotions.<br><br>It\'s about appearance vs substance.<br>Bling ves the single flawless diamond.  <br>Placing  the appearance of strength above  using actual strength wisely.  <br><br>The manliest man is seldom the one needing to brag about his manliness.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-519648">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519648" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519648" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-519648" href="http://www.whyweworry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ChrisWWW</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519648" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519648" class="dsq-comment-message">CStanley,<br>The reason we can\'t agree is because your perception of diplomacy and negotiations are a bit off. Let me quote M. Yglesias:<br><blockquote>The aim of diplomacy in this kind of situation is genuine bargaining aimed at reaching a mutually advantageous agreement. You\'re trying to cooperate and realize positive-sum gains, and diplomacy is the process by which those opportunities are identified and exploited. Obviously, such efforts sometimes fail and then maybe you look at coercion, but the diplomatic effort is not, as such, an attempt at coercion. If you think of it as one, you\'ll wind up thinking of it as a really shoddy attempt at coercion, and wind up rejecting it out of hand.</blockquote><br><br>And for kicks... there this:<br>"The argument that the administration makes is that we can\'t negotiate with Iran because it will legitimate them. Well, we\'re legitimating North Korea, so what\'s the big deal?" - Zbigniew Brzezinsk</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519720" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519720" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-519720">runasim</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519720" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519720" class="dsq-comment-message">CStanley-<br>Again, if we don\'t want to negotiate about  Hezbollah, WE DON\'T HAVE TO.<br><br>That should not  be a precondition to say \'hello\' on other topics.<br><br>Gazing into crystal balls about what Obama would or would not do in situations that haven\'t happened yet, is just pseudo-analysis, as no one knows anymore what any ot the phrases or words used actually mean.<br><br>I\'m actually sorry that politics has pushed Obam to make as many specific statemtns as he has already.  That just paints him in a corner, whereas an  important attribute of a leader is the ability to be flexible when necessary,  to adapt to new conditions and to think outside the box.<br><br>It\'s much more important to know HOW he thinks, not what specific steps he would take in the unknown future.  If you must have a dead certain step by step blueprint for dealing with future siuations,  I don\'t think politics is the place to look for that.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-519775">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-519775" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-519775" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-519775" href="http://writeslikeshetalks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Jillmz</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-519775" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-519775" class="dsq-comment-message">Runasim: bingo: "The manliest man is seldom the one needing to brag about his manliness."<br><br>Why did anyone even have to create this word?  ugh :)</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-520086">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-520086" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-520086" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-520086" href="http://greendreams.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">GreenDreams</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-520086" class="dsq-comment-message">So, now that this discussion has veered almost permanently off-topic, let me once again reiterate a real-world perspective missing in this dialogue. <br><br>The police negotiate with criminals in very intense crisis situations in which there is a high possibility of injury or death on both sides. No one accuses them of "appeasement" or of "legitimizing" the criminals. There are no preconditions, as none are possible. There are no "low level talks" because there isn\'t time (and besides, what sense does it make to give your second string a shot at it first?) <br><br>Negotiation has become a highly evolved strategy with a rich and diverse toolkit. It works an amazing amount of the time. The alternative, from a law enforcement standpoint, is to say "we\'ve got you surrounded, you\'re outgunned, and we\'re going to kill you. So do your worst." <br><br>I know I won\'t convince some commentors here of anything, but it is my hope that readers with more open minds will start thinking about negotiation as a serious tool for resolving conflict, and not some sissy soft liberal "appeasement" strategy. Remember, real world tough guys with guns, actual law enforcement heroes do this every day: they negotiate with the most sociopathic and dangerous people imaginable. And they win. They\'re not "naive" or stupid or inexperienced or exercising bad judgment. I wouldn\'t be surprised to see some of them standing up for Obama and throwing this misrepresentation of the art of diplomacy right back in the GOP\'s faces. <br><br>The approach of threatening, of not engaging, and of attacking is a much riskier strategy, both in law enforcement and in international relations.<br><br>I hope the Obama campaign can get across to voting Americans that negotiation is not a gift to our enemies. Negotiation concedes nothing! Is a perfectly valid, legitimate and proven method of resolving conflict.<br><br>Now, as several here have taken a very inflexible position about negotiation, what is your solution? Bomb Iran? Is that really what you\'re suggesting? Unleashing missiles against a sovereign nation, possibly even nuclear weapons, threatening our own soldiers downwind in Afghanistan with radiation poisoning? Inciting the righteous wrath of the entire Islamic world, of all of our enemies and most of our friends? Or do you have some third option that you haven\'t stated. Please. Share it with us.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-520268">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-520268" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-520268" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-520268">mikkel</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-520268" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-520268" class="dsq-comment-message">Haha I originally agreed that it was a euphemism! That Bush used one, and now Obama is using another one to distance himself from Bush. If Obama was completely honest he would just say "I\'m going to set preconditions but I think it means something different than what other people mean. They have the wrong preconditions." I think that is why Biden et. al have tried to couch it even while agreeing with the underlying premise. Biden never really cares about the politically correct thing to say.<br><br>It\'s just another context in politics where the players have to say what they do to play roles instead of reality. If we keep agreeing we\'ll get into a big fight.<br><br>I do disagree with this: "I think all of the delinking- put aside Hezbollah, etc- is considered dangerous by everyone except the far left" considering that\'s a fundamental characteristic of the Realist school of foreign policy which dominated the Cold War and was seen as conservative. <br><br>Although you can argue that our policies then hurt us in the present, but it is kind of ironic that the statement "we should negotiate with Iran about our own interests while setting aside some things that are bad but don\'t affect us a while lot" could be construed as Left. Liberals are supposed to be the Utopian ones that look for universal solutions! I think a lot of times people get caught up in arguing over strategic intentions by criticizing tactics.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-517170" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-517170" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-517170">RememberNovember</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-517170" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-517170" class="dsq-comment-message">Edwards is more Metro than Barry, manicured hands down.<br>or as they say at my salon manny-cure.<br>Then again, I have hot women give me manicures while I sit and have a beer, does that make me less manly?</div>\
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