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Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

sjordan — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:59:59 -0000

"(The FN Herstal Five-seveN fires .57-caliber rounds.)"

Incorrect.

This firearm fires 5.7mm rounds. The effective caliber is .22. (Caliber refers to inches.)

There is no such round as ".57 caliber" (which would be in excess of 1/2 an inch!)

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

$90805 — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:59:59 -0000

"(The FN Herstal Five-seveN fires .57-caliber rounds.)"

Incorrect.

This firearm fires 5.7mm rounds. The effective caliber is .22. (Caliber refers to inches.)

There is no such round as ".57 caliber" (which would be in excess of 1/2 an inch!)

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

ProfElwood — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:47:14 -0000

"thought cookies", "breading the law"
You must have been hungry when writing this.

In all seriousness, tough guns laws have done more to protect criminals than law-abiding citizens.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

ProfElwood — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:47:14 -0000

"thought cookies", "breading the law"
You must have been hungry when writing this.

In all seriousness, tough guns laws have done more to protect criminals than law-abiding citizens.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

Don Quijote — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:36 -0000

Remove Guns and you remove the Key.

No, No, No!!!!

We should write a law that forced everyone to carry loaded weapons at all times, with the smallest caliber being a .32. If such a law had been in effect all the fine people around when ever someone loses it would have the means to defend themselves, and if they didn&#39t, well thought cookies, they were breading the law.

As we all know an armed society is a polite society.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

DLS — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:37:23 -0000

I anticipated the anti-gun lunacy, but fortunately, few people are so desperate as to offer it in this case, any more than in the case of the shooting in Arkansas earlier this year, or in Orlando, in fact.

The real key is the mind and the motives, or goals and intentions, of the shooter, not "guns" [sic].

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

Don Quijote — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:09:36 -0000

Remove Guns and you remove the Key.

No, No, No!!!!

We should write a law that forced everyone to carry loaded weapons at all times, with the smallest caliber being a .32. If such a law had been in effect all the fine people around when ever someone loses it would have the means to defend themselves, and if they didn't, well thought cookies, they were breading the law.

As we all know an armed society is a polite society.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

DLS — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:37:23 -0000

The real key is the mind and the motives, or goals and intentions, of the shooter, not "guns" [sic].

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

Father_Time — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:08:33 -0000

Simple

Key=Guns

Remove Guns and you remove the Key.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

Polimom — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:48:08 -0000

There are quite a number of questions. For me, the biggest is why, when there were so many warning signs from this man, he was still on active duty -- much less about to be deployed.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

ThurmanHart — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:04:21 -0000

The Five-Seven can penetrate ballistic gel up to eleven inches. I&#39m not an expert, but this indicates to me that it is possible to injure more than one person with a single shot. This would be especially true if they were standing in formation or simply standing in line.

Even if that is horribly wrong, a semi-automatic with 31 shots can be emptied in under a minute. Anyone with any sense will stay under cover for a couple of minutes after the firing stops. I think that accounts for why he was able to hit so many and get off so many rounds.

The fact that he fired four shots and hit Munley four times tells me that he was a pretty good shot. If someone isn&#39t familiar with a handgun, the first shot usually hits the dirt in front of the target and the last shot would have gone high.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

bulletbiden — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:51:19 -0000

The U.S. Army is unlikely to reveal what happened at Fort Hood. Was it open rebellion? Insurrection? A fragging in reverse? Well written Mr. Remmers and well done.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

Father_Time — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:08:33 -0000

Simple

Key=Guns

Remove Guns and you remove the Key.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

Polimom — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:48:08 -0000

There are quite a number of questions. For me, the biggest is why, when there were so many warning signs from this man, he was still on active duty -- much less about to be deployed.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

ThurmanHart — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:04:21 -0000

The Five-Seven can penetrate ballistic gel up to eleven inches. I'm not an expert, but this indicates to me that it is possible to injure more than one person with a single shot. This would be especially true if they were standing in formation or simply standing in line.

Even if that is horribly wrong, a semi-automatic with 31 shots can be emptied in under a minute. Anyone with any sense will stay under cover for a couple of minutes after the firing stops. I think that accounts for why he was able to hit so many and get off so many rounds.

The fact that he fired four shots and hit Munley four times tells me that he was a pretty good shot. If someone isn't familiar with a handgun, the first shot usually hits the dirt in front of the target and the last shot would have gone high.

Re: Forensics Key To Shootings

don nash — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:51:19 -0000

The U.S. Army is unlikely to reveal what happened at Fort Hood. Was it open rebellion? Insurrection? A fragging in reverse? Well written Mr. Remmers and well done.