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Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

reformislam — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:44:12 -0000

Muslims Against Sharia Urge Support for Sue Myrick's "Wake Up America" Initiative

Wake Up America

1. Investigate all military chaplains endorsed by Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was imprisoned for funding a terrorist organization.

2. Investigate all prison chaplains endorsed by Alamoudi.

3. Investigate the selection process of Arabic translators working for the Pentagon and the FBI.

4. Examine the non-profit status of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

5. Make it an act of sedition or solicitation of treason to preach or publish materials that call for the deaths of Americans.

6. Audit sovereign wealth funds in the United States.

7. Cancel scholarship student visa program with Saudi Arabia until they reform their text books, which she claims preach hatred and violence against non-Muslims.

8. Restrict religious visas for imams who come from countries that don't allow reciprocal visits by non-Muslim clergy.

9. Cancel contracts to train Saudi police and security in U.S. counterterrorism tactics.

10. Block the sale of sensitive military munitions to Saudi Arabia.

Muslims Against Sharia urge every American to send a letter of support to Congresswoman Myrick. Sample letter is provided below.

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The Honorable Sue Myrick
230 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-1976
Fax: (202) 225-3389

Dear Congresswoman Myrick,

As an American who is concerned with the issue of terrorism, I applaud your efforts to prevent radical Islam from infiltrating American society. I wholeheartedly support your "Wake Up America" plan, as well as other initiatives of the Anti-Terrorism Caucus. You bring honor to the title of United States Representative.

Groups in America such as CAIR and MAS and groups overseas like Hamas and Al-Qaeda need to be shut down for their support and/or perpetration of terrorism. We hope that people recognize this threat to our society, and as well, recognize what you are doing to stop it.

Sincerely,

Signature
Name
Contact info (optional)

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Please print out, sign, and mail or fax this letter to Congresswoman Myrick at the address / fax above. Feel free to modify the letter as you see fit.
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Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

DLS — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:03:36 -0000

"Myrick called on Secretary of State Condi Rice to revoke Jimmy Carter’s passport."

It would be nice to see Carter, ahem, delayed several days in being allowed to re-enter this country. Just for justice's sake!

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

DLS — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:27:37 -0000

He's had a great post-Presidency until the Bush years. The Nobel lunacy was simply playpen-PC pathology, and this anti-Israeli tack he has taken makes us question if he's becoming senile or adopting the more sinister (literally, so true) nature of the Western Left.

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

Janda — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:08:31 -0000

Former chief of the Mossad and former head of Israel's National Security Council Efraim Halevy has called for talks with Hamas as have former Shin Bet director and General Security Services Chief Ya'akov Perry and Israel's Minister of Transportation, former Israeli Defense Forces Chief of Staff Likudnik Shaul Mofaz. Former Secretary of State Colin Powell (remember him, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff led the U.S. to victory in the first Persian Gulf War) has also endorsed this view. In January, Israeli security cabinet minister and former head of the Israeli secret service Ami Ayalon called for talks with Hamas.

Instead of Carter being “naïve” possibly it is Floyd and Mary Beth who don’t have a clue as to what they are talking about.

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

aba23 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:24:13 -0000

I don't imagine that President Carter would have made the trip at all if the current administration remained engaged in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict--if it followed through on its well-meaning overtures with proactive on-the-ground diplomatic pressure. I understand that you can't always get the horse to drink the water you've led it to, but we presumably have some influence as the world's only superpower (for now) over both sides (as well as by their being substantial beneficiaries of US aid). Secretary Rice's arm's length diplomacy is serving us no better in Israel and the occupied territories as it is in Iraq, in Iran, in Syria, etc.

As a final thought, we should think very carefully before we go branding peoples with labels that per se make them persona non grata. It is counterproductive to any peaceful resolution. One can take a tough, principled stance when negotiating with anyone; and it is only by exercising such discipline and fortitude in a good faith effort that a constructive result has any chance to see the light of day.

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

pyronite — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:09:25 -0000

Yet another article that ignores the advice of Brent Scowcroft, Lee Hamilton and Colin Powell.

It's all about Jimmy Carter, I guess. Can't bash him quite as strongly if you point out how other respected individuals agree with his approach.

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

ChrisWWW — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:08:28 -0000

Wow. This guest voice is oozing with seething and irrational hatred for Jimmy Carter. This article fails to point out ANY downside to Carter's trip to the Middle East.

And I really wonder if Floyd and Mary Beth Brown know that a majority of Israelis want their government to hold direct talks with Hamas:

Sixty-four percent of Israelis say the government must hold direct talks with the Hamas government in Gaza toward a cease-fire and the release of captive soldier Gilad Shalit. Less than one-third (28 percent) still opposes such talks.

Maybe the Browns should have written an article blasting the Israeli government for not carrying out the popular will of their own people.

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

PaulSilver — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:14:14 -0000

I am a fan of Carter's initiative and see value in opening up communication channels with enemies. I have a lot more faith in his integrity, intentions and judgment than I do the members of this administration. He may have been relatively timid but he would not have provoked war and alienated allies and potential allies.

Re: Guest Voice: News Flash to Jimmy Carter: You are No Longer President

runasim — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:24:41 -0000

Since Carter traveled as a private citizen, not in any official capacity, making so much of his ex-president status does not really add much of substnce to what is merely a difference of opinion on foreign policy issues.

People of good conscience do differ about tactics,. That's neither a sin nor a crime nor an excetional phenomenon.
Many, like Carter, believe that everything possible should be done to resolve conflicts before they erupt in open warfate,. To avoid losing lives and livelihoods whenever possible is seen by them as a primary goal.

The negoitations, the kind supported by the administration, have not been successful (as per Abbas, among others) Thus, Carter had a choice to make: watch from a distance while the situation deteriorates or face the inevtitable criticism and villification in an attempt to bring about some improvement.
Some would call that self-sacrifice, as he could have chosen to tend to his reputation and investments, instead.

Rice's Party switching also fails to add anything of substance to the debate about foreign policy. Her expertise on the cold war and USSR have not proved to be an asset in the ME. The cultures in the ME are not the cultures of Europe or Russia, nuclear energy was a new-born then, the nature of news coverage was entirely different., and so on. I think Rice has failed to move on from the area and era of her experitise to the brand new challenges of today.

Though Carter wasn't successful, at least he tried. There is value in that.
A rigid adherence to certain policies, even when they dont' work, closes off too many channels, too many opportunities.