http://themoderatevoice.disqus.com/enTue, 11 Mar 2008 10:24:12 -0000http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/barack-obama/18320/hillary-clinton-now-downplays-talk-of-clinton-obama-democratic-ticket/#comment-218525<p>"There is no rule that super-delegates HAVE to vote as the nation's majority of pledged delegates did. "</p><p>It's March 11. We're all very aware of that fact now. I'll remind you that there are thousands of legal, stupid moves in chess.</p><p>However, what are the repercussions for the party if they overturn the vote expressing the will of the electorate. He's leading in delegates, the popular vote, and the polls. What will be the rationale? "We've decided we know better than you. Thank for 'voting' I'll see you in November when it really counts!" Shoot, there's no rule saying I can't live on a diet of cheese-whiz and krispy kremes, but that doesn't make that an intelligent or forward looking move for my future health.</p><p>"Never has been. IN fact, the Obama campaigns present arguments are rather novel."</p><p>I can't think of an example in modern politics where the superdelegates countermanded the voters.</p><p>"Many super-delegetes are elected officials in their state. Why would any of them whose states voted for Hillary ignore their constituents and vote with the majorities of OTHER states? That's not what representation is about."</p><p>Wait, so are you arguing that the superdelegates can vote however they want unless their constituents voted for Hillary? Oy vey.</p><p>"This race has become so emotionally charged that lines are getting blurred and facts are being forgotten."</p><p>We've all heard those talking points above, and haven't forgotten them. I'm not, nor is Obama or Clinton, arguing that the rules should change. But as a voter, I have every right to make sure my elected officials are very aware of what I want. That is the essential relationship and a voter and their elected officials. I don't just vote and then sit quietly in a corner. </p>janinedmTue, 11 Mar 2008 10:24:12 -0000http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/barack-obama/18320/hillary-clinton-now-downplays-talk-of-clinton-obama-democratic-ticket/#comment-217243<p>Joe,</p><p>The reason Hillary is now downplaying the possibility of a joint ticket is likely because Obama has made multiple statements to the media that he isn't game.</p><p>Side issue: pledged delegates matter, but there is no rule that super-delegates HAVE to vote as the nation's majority of pledged delegates did. Never has been. IN fact, the Obama campaigns present arguments are rather novel.</p><p>Many super-delegetes are elected officials in their state. Why would any of them whose states voted for Hillary ignore their constituents and vote with the majorities of OTHER states? That's not what representation is about.</p><p>This race has become so emotionally charged that lines are getting blurred and facts are being forgotten.</p>CupplesMon, 10 Mar 2008 22:20:12 -0000