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Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

shellius — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:51:37 -0000

Senator Clinton can still win. In fact, she has about the same chance as Obama right now. She can and should get the majority of the superdelegates. Don't believe the hype coming out of the Obama camp. They are increasingly desperate as it becomes clear Rev. Wright will be a bigger problem in the general election, as will Rezko, and those two problems just aren't going to go away.
There is no "dynasty" with Hillary. She's not related by blood to Bill, she's just his wife. And so what? It means she has more experience than Obama, because she's already been in the White House. And there have been family members who were presidents before that were not disastrous like John Adams and his son, for one example.

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

Slamfu — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:11:02 -0000

"Why, why, why do I still have to point out that if Hillary is elected President we will have a minimum of 24 years that the White House has been in the control of TWO families. Almost anyone is preferable to HRC just to end the dynastic string that has occurred since Reagan left office. A democrat is better, but regardless not a Bush or Clinton needs to be the President."

Exactly.

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

Anna — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:41:59 -0000

Holly likes things the way they are now. She loves the partisanship, nothing getting done and the U.S. being subservient to and kissing Israel's backside no matter what.

To condense an important point that Joe made, if I may, NOTHING unites Republicans like a Clinton. She'd most likely lose and even if she didn't we'd have a president just like the one we're all anxiously awaiting to get out of the White House. Personally, I can't deal with another 4 - 8 years of Bush Lite (McCain) or The Decider in a pantsuit (Clinton), who like Bush, values loyalty above all else and will invite Whitewater & Lewinskygate, the Sequel into our lives (The Republicans will go from hating investigations & accountability to fully embracing them again). This country desperately needs a smart, competent and inspiring leader with fresh blood, not owing their soul to the current Washington establishment who believes in transparency, accountability, bipartisanship and can help effect real change in this country (and to translate that for Holly, that means Obama).

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

Idiosyncrat — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:37:25 -0000

joe said: "I think the question then becomes how do the clintons KNOW he can't win?"

Duh, Joe, they asked Holly...

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

moddoctor — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 07:57:23 -0000

Why, why, why do I still have to point out that if Hillary is elected President we will have a minimum of 24 years that the White House has been in the control of TWO families. Almost anyone is preferable to HRC just to end the dynastic string that has occurred since Reagan left office. A democrat is better, but regardless not a Bush or Clinton needs to be the President.

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

Marlowecan — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:02:42 -0000

vwcat said: "Obama is ahead in votes, states and delegates. He is beating her. So, how does she figure she is the stronger candidate against McCain...."

HRC's argument: Because the GE will not be polling just Dems in primaries and caucuses (where party organization as opposed to numbers count) but the whole voting population.
For example: lots of Dems shrug off Wright and the whole issue of patriotism...but not so among GOP and even many Indep...where this plays as more troubling.

But as Joe says, many GOPers are apoplectic about the Clintons...and while they may not like McCain...will pour in money and anything they have to do to stop a reprise of the Clinton era.

McCain is behind in money, and his organization is patchy...but after another month or so of this...he may be easily the more electable of the 3 despite the best efforts of Left Bloggers and the NYT.

BTW: HRC's economic proposal on outsourcing is GREAT! Can anyone point me to a site contrasting economic proposals of the 3 candidates?

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

DAMOZEL — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:07:35 -0000

The good man loves his wife.

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

joegandelman — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:27:01 -0000

I think the question then becomes how do the clintons KNOW he can't win? And why do they argue that when Hillary Clinton and her husband are now evolving into one of the most polarizing couples in America. If the tone of this campaign is any foreshadow of what a Clinton administration is like, all of us independents, Democrats and Republicans who have bemoaned the divisiness and bitterness of the Bush-Rove era are in for more of the same -- and perhaps the Democrats will hold the White House for only one administration. Why does it stand to reason that Obama can't win yet Hillary Clinton can win despite all of her and her husband's baggage? The REAL story is: BOTH candidates are going to face a brutal campaign with McCain being advised by Roverand other Bush administration political operatives.

So, no, Hillary and Bill using the mantra "Obama can't win" doesn't mean it's going to be cakewalk for Hillary Clinton who will create Republican unity faster than Sean Hannity can read another RNC talking point.

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

Holly_in_Cincinnati — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:00:04 -0000

Well, Sen. Obama CAN'T win. Should he be my Democratic Party's nominee, we will get the worst drubbing we've had since I began voting in 1976. You know what? We'll deserve it.

Re: Hillary Clinton Told Richardson “‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

vwcat — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:32:45 -0000

David Gergen on 360 said that some said that the Clintons and their surrogates were sending semi threating emails to Richardson before he decided to endorse Obama.

Also, I don't understand the clinton logic. Obama is ahead in votes, states and delegates. He is beating her. So, how does she figure she is the stronger candidate against McCain....