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I know you were you as passionate in defending John Kerry, and then Obama, against the scurrilous, vile attacks by groups such as the swift boaters, and the attacks on Obama's race, patriotism, citizenship, ties with terrorists.
Thank you
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Palin may well rise to the top. . .many do. . . . read this quote just minutes before reading this blog so perhaps my seeing is crooked. . .but as i read Palin's view the two where dancing with each other. . .but in truth i do not know anything except it has been like either a fish out of water flopping on a bank or a sunfish swimming with sharks? Still thinking about this quote. . . .Visionary or the response of another kind of personality? All i know for sure, I dont know. . .
Projections are our forte, but also our downfall. Our imaginations play tricks on us. How many entities, separate and distinct from ourselves, have been mistaken in nearsighted folly? If we, like Narcissus, cannot see the pond for our reflection, how can we know the depths beyond our skin? How can we hope to distinguish marshland from mirage? Mermaid from manatee? Lingcod from Loch Ness Monster? Friend from foe? Projections are meant to inform us about the Eden outside the sheath of our flesh, but more often they describe the interior into which we've been exiled.
Believer Beware, Bia Low in her story "Seeing Things"
. . .
(I also owned a trailer in a park once but it didn't make me or anyone else there "dirt" or "rabble.")
dr.e
dr.e
DLS - In spite of your desire that people stop commenting on Palin, she is/was a frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination and has just done something very unusual. That is worthy of comment and consideration from those who follow politics.
dr.e
Serious: very interesting idea re 'southern strategy' being unhinged by YouTube. It has been amazing to see all the former gatekeepers across the board having their gates exploded off the hinges... even though a few are still trying to weld those gates back into position. From your lips to Creator's ears that a non-violent revolution using YouTube continues to give out facts so people can decide based on facts. Thanks.
dr.e
Also, me too. Former trailer park renter/ inhabitant in far harder days. Some of the nicest people in the world there.
The middle of the road people. Not sure I know too many of middle of the road, but I do know moderates who try to understand different sides when they can. And they have mixed views about Governor Palin also.
In terms of the Zeitgeist, I wonder still what is the main mover of the great morraine being pushed up over Gov. Palin, a woman who does not seem to be running for anything. I wonder since she is no seeming threat to be president of anything, what uncanny? whisper is circulating in the collective. Just my two cents worth.
Thanks.
dr.e
dr.e
Also ITN, there is what we call, 'healthy narcissim.' Most everyone has narcissistic ideation and behavior. Decent boundaries go with a healthy dose of narcissim in most cases.
Thanks Jilly for reminding me, I think I'll if I can, write a post about Narcissus tonight... it is a myth often misunderstood. It has four sides to it, not just one or two.
dr.e
When I think about the issues you have on your list SD, I wonder which part can one ably, usefully handle in an article. So many of them seem they ought to be instant books by experts in the know up close.
Maybe you?
dr.e
Considering that many of the people working in food preparations are illegal aliens working on stolen identities and are illiterate, why would you expect their to be good food sanitation. Most restaurants, caterers, and supermarkets operate on very thing margins, the temptations are huge.
Do you really think that more government inspections will get uneducated illegal aliens to follow proper food handling techniques or get small businesses to throw food away.
Also, do you have a references for the asbestos shipping. Asbestos on a train is regulated under 49 CFR 172 and 173. It cannot be shipped in open railcars but requies special packaging.
It seems that perhaps many different kinds of people perhaps dont follow protocol? I wish laws alone would take care of it all. But usually, its double blind inspections that do far better in seeing that protocol is followed... all the time.... by all the people. Just in my experience.
dr.e
I found the delineation of DSM criteria by Ordinary Sparrow interesting, but agree with you that it applies to most politians on both sides of the aisle. For every democrat a republican can be named; for every republican a democrat. Looking forward to your article on the four sides of narcissism.
But, I must take issue with your assertion that moderates (middle-of-the-road-people) have mixed views on Palin. Speaking as a fire breathing moderate, extremism is offensive to a us moderates. As a rigid far right fundamentalist theocrat, Palin is every bit as offensive to serious pragmatic moderates as say a Dennis Kucinich (sp) would be on the left. This is not to say that I would not enjoy a pleasant dinner conversation with either Palin or Kucinich. I just don't want either as my president.
I dont know tidbits about who is/ isnt moderate. There seem to me as many kinds of moderates as in any other group... having a pendulum in either direction and middle, just as other groups.
Just my two cents worth, but (although I know from writing here at TMV for 2.5 years now that this subject of 'what is a moderate' is sort of like asking someone to present absolute proof that they have a real photo of GodJesus or Da Debbil,)
...nonetheless, I keep thinking 'moderation' is an effort at a reasoned position AFTER looking at various sides, rather than a 'my team and only my team' non-inquiry.
I know moderates are not monolithic...cant be. Like the Demmi-geeks and Libertars, and Republeezies, there are way too many eccentrics in all groups to be mono anything. (I think that's good most of the time.)
So far, in watching the shrieking wars that went on a couple years ago here about who is and who isnt a moderate, I have to say that my own understanding, though probably not completely keen yet, is that a moderate/ moderation has a gauge or a compass needle, or a scales, that is supposed to measure and then decide, rather than pounce and pronounce. Though Goodness knows, we all do the latter too sometimes.
Regarding Sarah Palin. I read across many many blogs and MSM's a day, plus read Reuters and AP as those 'tapes' come across my screen. I still do not grok why some very powerful cable and network and magazine and newspaper and radio people think even remotely that Governor Palin is going to run for anything with a chance of winning. The numbers on the Repub side dont stack in her favor. Though some I suppose fantasize a cat fight between Hillary and Sarah, I doubt that would happen either. If Barack runs, the Republicans will run as strong a male against him as they can find, and possibly a bi-racial man. There are many 'strong men (R)' in the wings who are, as with the Democrats, just waiting for a lot of the old guys to get their big comfy rear-ends out of the way so new blood can surface. Given history, I would count on the Repubs looking for a young candidate about Barack's age.
Sarah Palin hadnt a chance at becoming vice-president, most because of internecine fighting by Rush LImbaugh and others who pre-nomination decided McCain was ba-ba. The people they convinced of McCain's unfitness early early on, doomed Governor Palin as well. People talk about Gov. Palin having split the party (other blamees are Michael Steele, Rush, McCain himself, Romney by laying low, the minister guy Huckabee, who lost a whole person in weight, who now has a cable show and unhelps the Repubs by producing what looks like a 1950s variety show on TV along with too-late commentary on issues of our day... ) But I dont think that falls to her. I think it was meat-cleavered long before the nominations.
And I dont think Kucinich or Palin will ever be president. I'm not convinced yet that Gov Palin wants to be.
Maybe if as you inferred, we all might find more common sensical endeavors if we just become ASI's under 49CFR 172-173. I'd like the white french-fry hat, please. You take the hairnet, ok?
dr.e
Explaining principled moderation is a book, not a comment on TMV, but it does exist and there is a coherent rationale behind it. You are correct that not every moderate would agree on every issue, just as not every liberal/conversavtive agrees on every issue or every republican/democrat agrees on every issue. But, fundamental principles exist that can unite moderates.
I'll be in Denver (Aurora acutally) end of the month. Wish I could corral you for a two-three hour conversation on principled, pragmatic moderation. Your comment that moderation is "an effort at a reasoned position AFTER looking at various sides" rather than an ideological non-inquiry is accurate, except that it leaves out the filter that the effort at a reasoned position is 1. based on core principle(s) and 2. includes creative problem solving that may not be included in the "various sides."
BTW, going back to your earlier comment on your HS teacher, my favorite was a professor at one of the universities foolish enough to grant me a degree, who would comment from time to time, "Trust everyone......[long pause].......but cut the cards anyway."
My opinion regarding Sarah Palins' resignation speech:
At this point, I think that she is delusional and extremely out of touch with reality.
That speech looked to be an act of sheer desperation.
And where did that desperation come from? Why does she seem to be so "out of touch" with reality?
Well... I think Ms. Palin was not prepared in any way, shape or form for the "big pond" of American politics.
In my opinion American politics (both sides of the aisle) has become a hotbed of nasty, vile, mudslinging, hypocrites.
I do not think that Ms. Palin was prepared for any of it.
In her rather narrow world, things are very black and white.
She was, in my opinion, drafted into being McCain's running mate with little to no preparation for it and now she's the one paying the price.
I disagree with Palin on just about any and every issue under the sun however, I feel she's been given a raw deal by the media as well as the general public and it looks like she's just run out of petrol.
I think it's wrong the way she's been targeted (ongoing and ceaselessly) and I think the way the media has targeted her family is neigh to criminal.
When I was watching her resignation speech, I kept getting this creepy yet familiar feeling...
I've been where she is ...
We all have.
Made mistakes, needed to get out of said mistakes, didn't know what to do or how to do it in a graceful manner, said our goodbye's in a less than eloquent manner, lost our foothold, fell down on our face, fell down on our bums, fell down hard, fell down and went boom.
Only we got lucky. When most of us fall down, our disgrace is local not global (or even national).
When we fall down, we're dealing with much reduced numbers in terms of "who saw us fall."
It makes it a whole lot easier to get up when only a handful of people are watching...but in front of millions? People all over the world!?
Ouch!
I know there are many who will say that Palin brought much of this on herself. She should have known better. She shouldn't have accepted the VP nomination considering her lack of knowledge in foreign affairs, economics, Constitutional law, etc etc.
But I think Palin, a small town girl and not sophisticated (read: jaded to excess) was given to believe that these things could be surmounted and in the end, she would be a true benefit to her party as well as the American people...
I also think that Palin believes she had/has something to offer America.
Something she feels is valuable and regardless of how I feel about her brand of politics (which I see as being short sighted and xenophobic) the GOP led her out, paraded her around and when she came up a bit short, they tossed her out into the cold.
I think she's been dealt a rotten hand and if, during her resignation speech, she looked lost and troubled...
Well, who the hell could blame her? She's been given the shaft by people she trusted and it doesn't get much uglier than that, does it?
My one and a half cents worth. :P
Ghosty
And you're right about aggressive shaming and public humiliation of others... it's an ugly thing. But, interestingly Gost, in the last I'd say ten years, people are more yawn and ho-hum about those who call people down. It's a normalization of what once used to be shocking I think, where people become jaded and not so easily stimulated to act like rumpelstiltskin jumping around the fire in glee for someone having been harmed.
I liked that you related her travail to the ones we've all experienced. I think that is a missing part of most analysis of her situation. Just tonight heard a foolish analysis on CNN about fantasizing about why she resigned; it was shallow and though the man had apparently studied her life for years and wrote a book about her, the commenters at tmv today have shown ten time more insight than he on this subject.
dr.e
Palin: she's sinking, she's dead, no, no, she is swimming, she is swimming on her belly on climate change snow with one hand tied behind her back. And make no mistake if there ever was a cornered wild animal, read reptilian brain, she is one, and will go hoof and fang against those who besmirch her family.
Well that must be attractive to us all, a new feminism indeed, Sarah protector of families, and who wouldn't stand down an American invasion to protect the family. C'mon, didn't your heart break a little when you read of the killing of the sons of Saddam..........perhaps not.
The DSM description reads like a politicians job description..............yea the DSM is a weird instrument, if for no other instrument because it it concocted by psychiatrists and pharmacists thus the biological undertow....................still healthy narcissism would be hard pressed to exist in the hearts of the average politician.
yea, yea, she is going, she is coming and as someone else said so are jobs, health care, climate care, etc.
just my 1 cent worth
ordinary sparrow
Doc, I think, gave a compassionate analysis of Gov. Palin's speech - there is no "labeling" or stereotyping in her post. This is important as there are some real problems this DSM IV stuff that's circulating the net not the least of which is the obvious issue of ethics (or lack thereof) involved.
That some folks will use the DSM IV-TR to advance their argument concerning the unsuitability of Sarah Palin for public office is unavoidable but the idea that there are licensed therapists out there doing this kind of thing is another issue altogether.
To me the idea of a licensed therapist diagnosing a "patient" without the patients knowledge or consent, someone they've never personally met (and most certainly not in a therapeutic setting), hits me as very, very, bad medicine.
And let's move on to the "diagnoses" that are being handed out.
It seems the popular one is Narcissistic personality disorder ...
But what about some of the other ones - less flaunted, I think, because their titles don't sound as ominous as "narcissistic personality disorder."
(Before listing these, I should note that *I* can see any of these "diagnoses" being applied to Sarah Palin - in each and every category, I could pull out videotapes to show where these "symptoms" exist).
Let's try Histrionic (excerpted from DSM IV-TR)
A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: (1) is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention (2) interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior (3) displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions (4) consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self (5) has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail (6) shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion (7) is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances (8) considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.
That one could fit quite well, actually. So, is Palin Histrionic? Inquiring minds want to know...but ..
Wait...let's look over another one .. How about (spinning the wheel) ...
BINGO! Schizotypal: (excerpted from DSM IV-TR) A. A pervasive pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference) (2) odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations) (3) unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions (4) odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped) (5) suspiciousness or paranoid ideation (6) inappropriate or constricted affect (7) behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar (8) lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives (9) excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self
That one sounds good too, don't cha think? Oh WAIT! What about ...Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder: (excerpted from DSM IV-TR) A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following: (1) is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost (2) shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met) (3) is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity) (4) is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification) (5) is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value (6) is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things (7) adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes (8) shows rigidity and stubbornness
I don't know if I'm making my point but ...
The fact is, without knowing Ms. Palin and doing the extensive amount of work needed in order to come up with a diagnosis such as "Narcissistic Personality Disorder." all of these supposed "diagnoses" from "licensed therapists" do nothing but show the "therapists" to be unprofessional, unethical and have a quite a few "ego" issues of their own they should be working on (instead of posting any drivel they have a hankering to, on the net).
I think in this regard, Gov Palin is being dragged in the mud for something that she, personally, has nothing to do with and to engage in this kind of mudslinging is wrong (those therapists need to take a deep hard look at themselves, if you ask me).
One other thing...
The DSM IV-TR is absolutely rabid about the misuse of these "labels" but it seems that there are quite a few "Dr. Snakes Medicine Show" type of shrinks willing to overlook the ethics as well as the DSM IV warning (which reads as follows):
The specified diagnostic criteria for each mental disorder are offered as guidelines for making diagnoses, because it has been demonstrated that the use of such criteria enhances agreement among clinicians and investigators. The proper use of these criteria requires specialized clinical training that provides both a body of knowledge and clinical skills.
These diagnostic criteria and the DSM-IV Classification of mental disorders reflect a consensus of current formulations of evolving knowledge in our field. They do not encompass, however, all the conditions for which people may be treated or that may be appropriate topics for research efforts.
The purpose of DSM-IV is to provide clear descriptions of diagnostic categories in order to enable clinicians and investigators to diagnose, communicate about, study, and treat people with various mental disorders
My twenty two dollars worth (sorry for the length of the post but copying and pasting examples from the DSM IV took up quite a bit of space - my apologies for that).
Ghosty
"At this point, I think that she is delusional and extremely out of touch with reality." Ghost that sound to me to be psychiatric/psychological language also???? but then i do not have a problem with you saying that. . .Palin is a Rorschach ink blot as far as i am concerned. . . but please do not read i am suggesting you are delusional or extremely out of touch with reality. I promise that is not what i am suggesting. . .sometimes there are people that are ink blots. .
and do let me apologize that i was not able to communicate that effective. . .
re positive projection, there are two sides to it, one lossless, one useful, depending on what one does with one's own projection onto othets. But, often the positive projection blocks the one who projects thusly... from developing in themselves whatever it is they are projecting on others.. assume for a minute it is a fine, fine somethingorother.
In tribes, this is not considered negative, as many roles /professions are assigned ...often by those who seem to have best abiity to imagine the future re others' talents. And there is little diversification. Not impossible, but not likely to be the sole healer and the best hunter at the same time, for instance.
But in other cultural evolutions, it is considered that each person ought develop in many ways, not just be assigned one role. I think, that maybe the 'test' might be what kind of life does one live given whatever projections by self or from others.
I think projections in general can tell us far far more about what we are, (esp in terms of undeveloped gifts and foibles) than how others are put together.
Where the 'analytical psychology' theory breaks down I think, is in imagining that if it's projection, it only carries info about oneself, and ought be withdrawn from the other, and dealt with within oneself.
I'd say sometimes a projection is a telescope, other times a microscope... and the lens can be turned outwardly fruitfully sometimes, and also inwardly fruitfully sometimes.
Re Governor Palin, I'd personally like to hear more from the people who know her in Wasilla, than more and more politicos or as I mentioned, the man on CNN who actually wrote a book about her, and seemed to have the insight of a (forgive me) rubber plant.
Also, you are right about how one can wander about believing to one's own detriment that what is held out by the greater culture as good, better, best is just that, when in fact, it is less than good, way un-better, and definitely not the best of or for the soul. You are exactly right on.
dr.e
Also Ghost, you are of course correct; I have changed my thinking about the DSM over the years, in part because of the entering and then dismissing and then arguments within the APA (American Psychologists Assoc) headed by politicized evangelicals about putting back in the DSM... homosexuality as a perversion. I find/ found that disgusting and inhuman, that diagnostics which are supposed to be science based evidentiary conclusions, wound up even allowing for a moment, a religious idea to attempt to pathologize certain groups.
Long ago, diagnostics and diagnosticians like Dr. Bruno Bettelheim introduced mal-ideas into the culture of Eu and American psychology that took more than half a century to knock uniquivocally as not only racist, sexist and flying leaps of the diagnoticians own personal fantasies... instead of hard evidence on the part of the diagnosticians: One of those fantasies accepted by most diagnosticians of the time was that mothers caused their children to have autism. Many diagnostics of eld are in the realm of phrenology and diagnosing intelligence by facial features.
I have written about public figures and what might be going on with them psychologically. Than Shwe, and other dictators like Mugabe, are in my opinion, sick. When I speak of them as character disordered, what I hope to accomplish is to show/ teach/ strenghten the idea already in heartful people's minds... that character disorder has no known cure that we know about... that persons who carry this will never step down as a result of reasoning, for humanity's sake, nor for any other reasoned reason.
I am glad Ghost, that you brought up what is on a lot of healers/ helpers/helping professionals' minds nowadays... how is the DSM, or where is the DSM, not evidence based. That is a very important differentiation. For we all were trained to follow the DSM and only the DSM, which has as its advantage, a common language understood by shrinks and helping professionals all over the world. IF it's science based evidence that is not spun with animus toward a certain individual or group who harms no one by the fact of being.
Regarding Sarah Palin, again, a person who thinks/ feels/ knows they have a fate, has a certain amount of what is called 'healthy narcissim"... meaning they believe 'their view' is essential to the world continuing either locally or more globally. The persons each of us admire for whatever they've done that seems the cat's pajamas to us.... have a certain amount of standing upon 'what I think is more important than what you think'.... one person coming to mind
is Sor Juana who told the bishop of Mexico to go take a leap, she was going to write her ecstatic poetry and her critiques of 'the princes' of the church despite the bishop ordering her to be silent. Today, several hundred years later, hers is near the only written work surviving the colonization/occupation of Mexico by Spain, and some of the most beautiful.
Like that. That could be called narcissism. But, you know, in all, I would prefer not to use psychiatric terms to explain ballsiness and goodness and usefulness of viewpoint, because it carries the whiff of pathology to it, even when one says 'positive narcissism.' I've been thinking of writing an alter-DSM. lol
dr.e
I am so over what is happening with too many of our "leaders". . .and in truth i do see "lots" of unhealthy narcissism in politicians, high profile media, and all too often religious ministers. . . . . and Palin may or may not be in that grouping?. . . maybe, one on one, i would not be as unmerciful to them. . .since it is not allowed to cuss on TMV comments maybe words or concepts like narcissism is a second best. . .narcissism more intelligent than creep, jerk, or butthead. . .
am trying to learn how to be connected with the TMV tribe without a nasty egoic insertion, because i like these folks, but as you say Dr. E. it is a dance of heart and ongoing "imperfection". . .
am already a bit off topic and i am concerned that Tidbits will be soon throwing a red handkerchief down, but will return to one of my favorite video by Papaji Keep Quiet. . .and try to stay there for awhile. . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWl0fiPZhVg
I really was not pointing fingers at you. In truth, I saw a couple of posts mention something in regards to the disorder and Palin and then, when I did a search on Google ..
Ohmigod..
It's everywhere on the net!
"Palin HAS NPD!"
In my reply to Doc's post, I was actually referring to people, off site, that are proclaiming themselves licensed therapists (or representing licensed therapists) and, according to them, "This IS what Sarah Palin is (narcissistic personality disorder).
I just thought for these people to proclaim themselves professional therapists and then state as a fact that Palin has a personality disorder to be rather ...bizarre, but in no way was I referring to you, Sparrow.
I am truly sorry if it seemed that way luv.
Please accept my most sincere apologies.
Ghost
PS GREAT youtube video! Ty for posting it!
Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz...
What a coincidence!
I only recently saw the movie (biopic) about her! (I, Worst of All) and was totally taken by it.
She was an amazing woman!
What I have read by her was truly amazing stuff. I wish the translators would get on the stick so all of her work was available.
And ...
PLEASE write an alternative DSM!!! PUH LEASE!
I (and many, many others) have spent years being misdiagnosed over and over again due to that #^@$ manual...
And, btw, my misdiagnosing is still in the works ..
I recently acquired another one. Just how many psych diagnoses can one woman have?
It wouldn't be so irritating if even ONE of these "diagnoses" even vaguely described my "condition" (they say "your condition" while I say "my situation")- and about that condition -
What is wrong, really, with a desire to draw things that many other people don't seem to see?
Writing, painting, acting, drawing, drumming, dancing, singing, sculpting, inking, printing, performing.... To express the things we feel and see and know in our hearts and souls that others do not or cannot see ...
Isn't that the very nature of art, to express these things...to express ourselves ?
Admittedly, I do not have the answers but I do have lots of questions for the psychiatric industry that produced the DSM (such as, why do psychiatric doctors tell people that mental illness is biological when there is absolutely no proof for that assertion?) ..:P
What can I say? When it comes to psychiatry, I'm the ultimate skeptic. Heeh
Laters!
Ghost
the head part is the "Pit Bull with lipstick". . .and. . . her body which hold the heart and emotions is a vunerable lamb. . . maybe the speech was more evident of "wounded" than healthy or pathological. . .and who would not be in the "gladiator-ish" political arena where loosing is bruising and humiliating and the stakes really high at that level . . .
am looking forward to watching the movie I, Worst of All on Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz...i had not heard of her, but the movie is available on Netflix. . .
Hey folks the DSM has mostly to do with Diagnosing and not with doing therapy, therefore, most therapists place little importance on it, often asking clients, for the benefit of insurance reimbursement to diagnose themselves. Psychiatrists however justify the prescribing of certain meds to certain diagnosis. Actually the choice of meds should follow diagnosis. Since it is isn't as scientific as it might seem, I have seen many a Doc change the diagnosis to fit the medication he now wishes to try. In a society as litigious as ours, this can be very important.
Below are two up to date articles for those interested.
Financial Ties between DSM-IV Panel Members and the Pharmaceutical Industry
Lisa Cosgrovea, Sheldon Krimskyb, Manisha Vijayaraghavana, Lisa Schneidera
Abstract
Background: Increasing attention has been given to the transparency of potential conflicts of interest in clinical medicine and biomedical sciences, particularly in journal publishing and science advisory panels. The authors examined the degree and type of financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry of panel members responsible for revisions of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders(DSM). Methods: By using multimodal screening techniques the authors investigated the financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry of 170 panel members who contributed to the diagnostic criteria produced for the DSM-IV and the DSM-IV-TR. Results: Of the 170 DSM panel members 95 (56%) had one or more financial associations with companies in the pharmaceutical industry. One hundred percent of the members of the panels on 'Mood Disorders' and 'Schizophrenia and Other Psychotic Disorders' had financial ties to drug companies. The leading categories of financial interest held by panel members were research funding (42%), consultancies (22%) and speakers bureau (16%). Conclusions: Our inquiry into the relationships between DSM panel members and the pharmaceutical industry demonstrates that there are strong financial ties between the industry and those who are responsible for developing and modifying the diagnostic criteria for mental illness. The connections are especially strong in those diagnostic areas where drugs are the first line of treatment for mental disorders. Full disclosure by DSM panel members of their financial relationships with for-profit entities that manufacture drugs used in the treatment of mental illness is recommended.
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Drug Companies and Psychiatrists
Partners in Crime
Eugenia Tsao reports on the upcoming revision of one of the most important books in America, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Here’s where the drug lords, the shrinks and the insurance companies collude in establishing hundreds of bogus psychic conditions requiring the psychotropic drugs from which they reap billions every year.
As for narcissistic personality disorder the lay public tends to confuse simple grandiosity with the actual diagnosis which carries a deeper layer of self loathing and inability to empathize, among other traits.
That said, those occupations that involve power, public aggrandizement, and wealth do attract, like bees to honey, those who love to be at the center of things.
Actually, I've stated before that Swift Boaters (who had to rush in boats up Vietnamese rivers, at all times subject to enemy fire from the banks, and to traps like log booms leading to ambushes), including John Kerry, had to have a lot of courage to face the environment they did.
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"For the left, I guess talking about Palin beats talking about massive budget deficits, the lack of job creation, the Democrats demand for even more stimulus spending, and the impact of the coming energy, environmental, health, and employment regulations."
I've griped, to little avail until just now, though the griping was open and deliberately so, as it was merited.
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"why is there so much commotion over a person who isnt running for anything?"
She is an object of hatred, and there is more commotion than usual because she became popular -- ironically, more popular (and stoutly defended) after she began to be the object of such hatred.
She was attractive at first blush, which competed with Obama's American Idolatry, and thus for votes, and thus with the expected success of the Democrats in the 2008 general election, which itself, that there was any serious competition, was hated, too.
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"In spite of your desire that people stop commenting on Palin, she is/was a frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination and has just done something very unusual. That is worthy of comment and consideration from those who follow politics."
There is no justification for the obscession (not to mention the extent of hatred) that Palin has drawn.
Also this comment to Lithwick's essay:
"Between the June 2007 Alaska cruise where Sarah Palin was introduced to the GOP establishment and her disastrous Sept 2008 interview with Katie Couric, the Republicans never really talked with Sarah Palin in what we call English. They talked in that distinctive Republican code made up of bumper sticker sayings.
This is how she got through the vetting process. Her interviewers listened attentively while Palin talked in bumper sticker code and they concluded that they were listening to a genius. This is weirdly close to the plot of the movie "Being There". For fifteen months Sarah Palin played the role of Chauncey Gardiner."
-- pwoxby