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Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

DLS — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:13:11 -0000

Sil, at least, provided a halfway intelligent lefty response. Missing fundamental substance, though.

"Why isn&#39t the fact that Israel has 200 nuclear warheads"

Israel is a responsible, trustworthy nation, unlike its scumbag enemies. There&#39s an obvious difference!

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

redbus — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:56:58 -0000

Hey, be nice to Oklahomans. I is one!

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

DLS — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:13:11 -0000

Sil, at least, provided a halfway intelligent lefty response. Missing fundamental substance, though.

"Why isn't the fact that Israel has 200 nuclear warheads"

Israel is a responsible, trustworthy nation, unlike its scumbag enemies. There's an obvious difference!

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

redbus — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:56:58 -0000

Hey, be nice to Oklahomans. I is one!

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

pacatrue — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:15:16 -0000

EU bad. UN bad. Only U.S. good.

Anyway, I agree with Austin&#39s original comment: No one expect Iran to actually agree to anything. When they truly follow through with a promise, that&#39ll be news.

The bigger story on this might not be the Iranian oligarchy reneging, but the fact that the Iranian negotiators don&#39t appear to actually have sufficient power to negotiate. If the deals they cut are ignored, it will become worthless to negotiate with them. It&#39s similar to the trouble that U.S. administrations have on many trade deals. The executive negotiates, but the legislature decides. Makes it harder to negotiate with us.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

JeffersonDavis — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:33:47 -0000

The EU has been "working" with Iran for years on the nuclear issue.
I&#39m quite certain that their work will culminate with an Iranian nuclear missle. Diplomacy hasn&#39t worked well for Europe for the last 80 years or so.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

pacatrue — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:15:16 -0000

EU bad. UN bad. Only U.S. good.

Anyway, I agree with Austin's original comment: No one expect Iran to actually agree to anything. When they truly follow through with a promise, that'll be news.

The bigger story on this might not be the Iranian oligarchy reneging, but the fact that the Iranian negotiators don't appear to actually have sufficient power to negotiate. If the deals they cut are ignored, it will become worthless to negotiate with them. It's similar to the trouble that U.S. administrations have on many trade deals. The executive negotiates, but the legislature decides. Makes it harder to negotiate with us.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

JeffersonDavis — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:33:47 -0000

The EU has been "working" with Iran for years on the nuclear issue.
I'm quite certain that their work will culminate with an Iranian nuclear missle. Diplomacy hasn't worked well for Europe for the last 80 years or so.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Davebo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:37:25 -0000

Sorry dude but Sooner is as Sooner does

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

AustinRoth — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:28:55 -0000

Get out of Oklahoma much?

Do you have a clue about US geography? AustinRoth. Duh.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Davebo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:34:46 -0000

Even less democratic? Err.. OK.

the EU exists to restore the aristocracy to the rule of Europe.

Wow! Get out of Oklahoma much?

The EU has something the UN doesn&#39t. Leverage against Iran.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

AustinRoth — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:27:47 -0000

The EU is not the UN. You realize that right?

Of course it isn&#39t. The EU is even less democratic and transparent than the UN. The UN exists to allow third-world countries to enrich and enable their corrupt governments; the EU exists to restore the aristocracy to the rule of Europe.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Davebo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:15:52 -0000

Yes let the highly effective UN take the reins.

The EU is not the UN. You realize that right?

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Ron Beasley — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:33:56 -0000

Why isn&#39t the fact that Israel has 200 nuclear warheads is not part of the Nuclear Non Proliferation treaty getting more play? If I were Iran I would want Nukes too.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Davebo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:37:25 -0000

Sorry dude but Sooner is as Sooner does

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

AustinRoth — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:28:55 -0000

Get out of Oklahoma much?

Do you have a clue about US geography? AustinRoth. Duh.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Davebo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:34:46 -0000

Even less democratic? Err.. OK.

the EU exists to restore the aristocracy to the rule of Europe.

Wow! Get out of Oklahoma much?

The EU has something the UN doesn't. Leverage against Iran.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

DLS — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:29:16 -0000

"The UN track record" ... "Nobel Prize winning"

Wherever has the Committee been? Especially with the UN General Assembly? ($1 million, each and all!)

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

AustinRoth — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:27:47 -0000

The EU is not the UN. You realize that right?

Of course it isn't. The EU is even less democratic and transparent than the UN. The UN exists to allow third-world countries to enrich and enable their corrupt governments; the EU exists to restore the aristocracy to the rule of Europe.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

DLS — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:27:09 -0000

"Nobel Prize winning President reduces World Nuclear Threat"

Horsey didn&#39t fail to notice this:

http://www.seattlepi.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?...

Nor this...

(Peter, Paul, and Mary? No, Harry, Nance, and Barry.)

http://www.seattlepi.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?...

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Davebo — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:15:52 -0000

Yes let the highly effective UN take the reins.

The EU is not the UN. You realize that right?

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

AustinRoth — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:53:56 -0000

Because it is not &#39news&#39 to the MSM. Iran reneging is dog bites man, not man bites dog.

Plus, it doesn&#39t fit the meme of Nobel Prize winning President reduces World Nuclear Threat. They don&#39t want to print "Nobel Prize winning President gets punked by Iran - AGAIN!"

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

DLS — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:44:07 -0000

"I just don’t see how there’s a bigger story than Iran’s reversal."

1. There may be more important domestic issues, as with how Afghanistan rates against these issues.

2. The reversal doesn&#39t fit in with the happy ending the lib establishment anticipates or expects with Iran.

3. There are idosyncracies and preferences, colored by trends or a group (herd) mentality about favorite topics of the moment or of the day, just as there are on this Web site. There has been no thread yet here about the Congressional ethics investigations, or about Rattner&#39s remarks about General Motors&#39s management (and the secondary story about the question of self-aggrandizement by Rattner himself), or the alarming proposal to create new dictatorial powers over financial firms (including explicit takeover details), which Mikkel is planning to write about, admittedly.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

Douglas Wolf — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:41:29 -0000

Yes let the highly effective UN take the reins. The UN track record in Africa, (Darfur) for example, has been exemplary.

Re: Iran’s Reversal: Why Isn’t This Story Getting More Play?

shannonlee — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:36:58 -0000

This isn&#39t an "us only" problem. The EU has been dealing with Iran for years. They are just as invested as we are. We should continue to let them do the work.