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Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Polimom — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:25:00 -0000

"And quite frankly, Polimom, I find myself unable to understand your argument, or why you are making it."

Hunh? Kathy, you spend 4 paragraphs responding, and then say you don&#39t understand my argument or why I&#39m making it?

Allow me to be frank in return: What I really wanted to respond to was your ridiculous assertion that the word "coup" is only used if the ousted individual is on the political right. I didn&#39t do so, primarily because I find partisan worldviews to be generally incomprehensible and intellectually stultifying.

The thread itself went a different direction, and so I went with the flow. Otherwise, I&#39d have found myself unable to respond at all, because I also "find myself unable to understand your argument, or why you are making it".

I find narrow "left v. right" posts very frustrating.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Polimom — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:25:00 -0000

"And quite frankly, Polimom, I find myself unable to understand your argument, or why you are making it."

Hunh? Kathy, you spend 4 paragraphs responding, and then say you don't understand my argument or why I'm making it?

Allow me to be frank in return: What I really wanted to respond to was your ridiculous assertion that the word "coup" is only used if the ousted individual is on the political right. I didn't do so, primarily because I find partisan worldviews to be generally incomprehensible and intellectually stultifying.

The thread itself went a different direction, and so I went with the flow. Otherwise, I'd have found myself unable to respond at all, because I also "find myself unable to understand your argument, or why you are making it".

I find narrow "left v. right" posts very frustrating.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:12:06 -0000

And cont to do so!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:11:10 -0000

That is notcomperable to Presidential terms. Inseliable means
unchangeable because given by God. Are u saying God wrote Honduran
Constitution. ??

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:09:09 -0000

As far as same party stuff what is even more disgusting is that this
Michelletti / espeghetti is really a wolf in sheeps clothing, he is
an imposter like the co conspirators, not liberal he is with green
party $$$$$ green fascist. It&#39s a real old party let me tell you.!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:02:08 -0000

They created the emergency, it wasn&#39t an emergecy first off.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodyinneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:44:31 -0000

Sounds like GeorgeBush all over again. !!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodyinneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:42:59 -0000

Communism is an economic system actually?????? Tell that to the ones shot and killed in Tenimen SquareChina!!!!!!!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodyinneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:39:30 -0000

I am replying to the comment that the military was acting on "orders" well, orders to throw a president out in a Democracy by military is illegal and non Democratic. The supmreme court controls the judicial precedent, the congress controls the electoral and laws, the president is the"commander in cheif". You can not order something you are not authorized to ORDER! You cannot gang up on a elected official and becuse the politicians decide to vote that he goes he goes by military force. Where is that in the constitution? And lastly the one who claims he wrote the order- was the attorney general- idiot that he is does not even know his job moreless that what Z was doing was not illegal/ opinion poll not illegal/.he should have asked the country head prosecuted to charge him and bring him to a grand jury or trial. Sumpteme court cannot mix up wether something is constitutional or not with wether some one is a criminal or not without first trying both in a court of law. You cannot charge them, or not charge them, condemn them without jury and sentence them all in one swoop. Regardless if sC says vote was not legal which it was! Totally. And surly not criminal or enough to oust someone. This is democracy backwards an inept !!! Spuds like GB all over again. GREAT!!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:12:06 -0000

And cont to do so!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:11:10 -0000

That is notcomperable to Presidential terms. Inseliable means
unchangeable because given by God. Are u saying God wrote Honduran
Constitution. ??

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:09:09 -0000

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:02:08 -0000

They created the emergency, it wasn't an emergecy first off.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodyinneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:44:31 -0000

Sounds like GeorgeBush all over again. !!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodyinneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:42:59 -0000

Communism is an economic system actually?????? Tell that to the ones shot and killed in Tenimen SquareChina!!!!!!!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodyinneworleans — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:39:30 -0000

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

EEllis — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:15:28 -0000

"Today the new gov declared suspension of all civil rights and non warrant house searches, detentions and arrests without charges in court hmmm sounds a little COMmuNiST to me!!!!"

Communism is in actuality an economic system which without a doubt Honduras is not. As far as it being a "right wing fascist government" you are aware that the leader of congress the man sworn in as interim president is of the same party as Zelaya. They are actually considered on the left. There was not a suspension of all civil rights just on assemblies at night (curfew), warrantless arrests for up to 24 hrs, and warrantless searches. The kind of thing that would happen anywhere in a state of emergency.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

EEllis — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:59:08 -0000

Umm.... They did. "for the people by the people" is the US not Honduras constitution. Here in the US we have "unalienable rights" which by definition means they can&#39t be taken away which means you couldn&#39t change our constitution to remove them. So yes you can put things in a constitution that the people can&#39t change. Think about it, without being able to protect certain rights, the majority (race, religion, orientation) could do anything it wanted to the minority.

"These are the capitalist communist who have stragled the poor don&#39t to do so!!!!"
I don&#39t even know what that meant.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:47:16 -0000

The supreme court cannot rule an opinion poll ILLEGAL!!!! And no democratic constitution can say a constitution cannot be changed if it is for the people by the people and that that proposition voting is illegal. These are the capitalist communist who have stragled the poor don&#39t to do so!!!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:40:22 -0000

Anyone who thinks this coup is about anything other than money is Gullible !!!and the people in Honduras for this illegal takeover are the same ones who worship the almighty dollar any one who has a few million of them such as Michelletti and the ones who own all the newspapers, media and news. Gee wonder whythey are so brainwashed in the country. When the whole world knows it was an illegal TakeOver by force from a jundgeand freinds of the rich guy who runs congress. To be sucessfull in Honduras you either have to agree with the wealthy, shut up if you don&#39t or ban together. Some democracy!!!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:31:54 -0000

This is the same Ole Right wing take over
Of the eighties. Gw bush style in Iraq. This is about money!!!! If the wealthy class allows Zelaya to give the people a vote or poll such as they do on AMERIcA!!!! with propositions!!!! Then they will not have 70% poverty and full control. No democracy in the world makes poll or vote on anything legal such as constitutional convention or propositions illegal!!! Except this right wing facist government. George Bush throwbacks themselves acting like communist. Today the new gov declared suspension of all civil rights and non warrant house searches, detentions and arrests without charges in court hmmm sounds a little COMmuNiST to me!!!!

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

EEllis — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:15:28 -0000

"Today the new gov declared suspension of all civil rights and non warrant house searches, detentions and arrests without charges in court hmmm sounds a little COMmuNiST to me!!!!"

Communism is in actuality an economic system which without a doubt Honduras is not. As far as it being a "right wing fascist government" you are aware that the leader of congress the man sworn in as interim president is of the same party as Zelaya. They are actually considered on the left. There was not a suspension of all civil rights just on assemblies at night (curfew), warrantless arrests for up to 24 hrs, and warrantless searches. The kind of thing that would happen anywhere in a state of emergency.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

EEllis — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:59:08 -0000

Umm.... They did. "for the people by the people" is the US not Honduras constitution. Here in the US we have "unalienable rights" which by definition means they can't be taken away which means you couldn't change our constitution to remove them. So yes you can put things in a constitution that the people can't change. Think about it, without being able to protect certain rights, the majority (race, religion, orientation) could do anything it wanted to the minority.

"These are the capitalist communist who have stragled the poor don't to do so!!!!"
I don't even know what that meant.

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:47:16 -0000

Re: It’s Not a Coup If the Guy Is a Leftist

Melodsainneworleans — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:40:22 -0000