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Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

kritt11 — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:39:25 -0000

But the American Dream has been shut off to many in our society, and Biden knows that. Just as we buffet up corporate interests in downtimes, Biden feels we should do the same for the working and middle classes.

Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

Leonidas — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:37:25 -0000

In baseball terms I'd call this a singele. He did ok but nothing really special. The interesting thing is that Biden's own family experiences reveal just how intact the American dream is. His untalented father had a good deal of money but squadered it away ( an item not mentioned in the speech, but it is in Biden's autobiography) forcing the family into the working class. By hard work Biden was able to achieve much in life by working hard and never giving up, not by government handouts.

This is the real lesson of the Biden experience, that if you work hard you can get somewhere, but if you don't you can fall off the ladder. This is the American dream, not a political platform of government spending but an opportunity for those who work hard to get ahead on their own merits.

Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

kritt11 — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:25:29 -0000

DLS- I can't imagine anyone from either party lowering themselves to relish death or destruction from manmade or natural causes. Its just too demonic.

Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

DLS — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:07:00 -0000

I'm sure many libs and Dems relish the prospect of Gustav turning into another Gulf Coast hurricane (a potential campaign issue I was first to note, earlier this week), but that doesn't mean they wish it on this country any more than they actually relish US battle deaths in Iraq, say. They're glad it's happening while the other party is in power instead of them, but that doesn't mean they're ("absolutely") glad the events themselves are happening. Some might wish for misfortune, but even the most craven Demmies conceivable aren't hoping for mass-scale slaughter or destruction here.

Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

DLS — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:04:34 -0000

It was a good speech. Pegging McCain to the GOP and the status quo (and showing McCain _and_ Bush reversals of position, hmmm) is not only good offensive (attack) policy but is fundamental strategy -- McCain represents perpetuation of the GOP that the public voted no confidence in, in 2006 and contrasts with the other strategic theme, that Obama offers Americans change from this status quo. How more clear could the distinction be made? Good speech.

Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

kritt11 — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:03:49 -0000

Patrick- No we have no hoardes of starving orphans. But we do have many still displaced by Katrina, others who can't afford healthcare yet are too rich for Medicaid and many others yet who have lost or are losing their homes. We are in two wars that are costing taxpayers 12 billion a month, and the middle-class is slipping down into the lower class. The GOP response has been indifference. The Bush administration has rewarded the folks who put him in office-- with his allies in the GOP's blessing. They seem to care more about corporations than consumers, who are, after all, the citizens who elected them in the first place.

Re: Joe Biden Does Himself Proud

Loviatar — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:38:02 -0000

Patrick,

Listening to him discuss how the GOP was responsible makes you think that they wanted these problems to happen.

Tell me, what's the difference between knowing that you're doing wrong and not caring and setting out to do wrong? The end result is the same isn't it?