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Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JeffersonDavis — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:40:26 -0000

"Or, maybe he is expressing gratitude and pride for their sacrifice to their country."

I hope you&#39re right. Until I find out otherwise, I&#39ll give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JeffersonDavis — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:40:26 -0000

"Or, maybe he is expressing gratitude and pride for their sacrifice to their country."

I hope you're right. Until I find out otherwise, I'll give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

kritt11 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:55:37 -0000

Or, maybe he is expressing gratitude and pride for their sacrifice to their country.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

kritt11 — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:55:37 -0000

Or, maybe he is expressing gratitude and pride for their sacrifice to their country.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JeffersonDavis — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:00:41 -0000

SBSF,

"Liz is thinking of the OTHER things Bush did without cameras".

I know where you&#39re coming from on this (I think). I agree.
But it&#39s one thing to have cameras - as a President would be filmed taking a crap if he did it in public.
It&#39s quite another to orchestrate it as a PR event to glorify yourself. I&#39m not saying that Obama did this, but I suspect that he may have done that very thing - judging by his anal control of every aspect of his "transparent" administration. He&#39s done a great job controlling his image in the press - good on him. That&#39s good executive execution. But if he uses dead soldiers to better his image, he&#39s a scumbag.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JeffersonDavis — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:00:41 -0000

SBSF,

"Liz is thinking of the OTHER things Bush did without cameras".

I know where you're coming from on this (I think). I agree.
But it's one thing to have cameras - as a President would be filmed taking a crap if he did it in public.
It's quite another to orchestrate it as a PR event to glorify yourself. I'm not saying that Obama did this, but I suspect that he may have done that very thing - judging by his anal control of every aspect of his "transparent" administration. He's done a great job controlling his image in the press - good on him. That's good executive execution. But if he uses dead soldiers to better his image, he's a scumbag.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

kritt11 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:59:56 -0000

So would Liz say that she could not understand why President and Mrs. Reagan showed up with the press pool to view the dead marines coming in from Lebanon? He is, after all, the standard-bearer of the Republican party, and the political figure that W most sought to emulate during his 2 terms in the WH. :-)

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

rfyork — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:32:27 -0000

I am beginning to think the whole Cheney clan is certifiable. A lesbian daughter who supports her father&#39s stand against gay marriage, a wife who bloviates out of sheer willful ignorance and lies. And, well, what can you say about a "man" who is incapable of any kind of self-reflection. As my fellow veterans call him - a chickenhawk.

In the Cheneys&#39 world everything just turned out hunky-dory until Obama came along. Who needs reality anyway?

Bush dignity? Another oxymoron stalks the blogs.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

imavettoo — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:19:48 -0000

Dubya-Dignity=oxymoron, moron.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

DLS — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:08:04 -0000

Grow up, people. There&#39s no excuse for overreacting and silly-lib cheap shots. Someone was going to be first, and first in a professional-conservative-media-mouthpiece-role, to be publicly critical of Obama, just as a righty joined the foamier-mouth lefties in criticizing the President for not being more harsh toward Iran after that nation&#39s post-election suppression of protests.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

zeezil — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:17:15 -0000

Bush honored our war dead – without fanfare, the photographers and the press corps. But then, Bush understands dignity.

And, it’s my understanding that Bush sent a letter of condolence to the family of every soldier killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. (And the signature on each letter was by Bush’s hand – not a machine.)

I haven’t heard what Obama’s practice is, if any.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JSpencer — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:02:30 -0000

Lliz Cheney is a mental and moral lightweight... even with the Cheney name... which is all she&#39s got - and that ain&#39t sayin much. If I could channel DLS for a moment, I&#39d say that "better people" will ignore her and move on. ;-)

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

kritt11 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:59:56 -0000

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

Rudi — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:24:21 -0000

Liz Cheney is pushing her agenda and her fathers legacy on the backs of dead soldier. Quite a class family...

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

rfyork — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:32:27 -0000

I am beginning to think the whole Cheney clan is certifiable. A lesbian daughter who supports her father's stand against gay marriage, a wife who bloviates out of sheer willful ignorance and lies. And, well, what can you say about a "man" who is incapable of any kind of self-reflection. As my fellow veterans call him - a chickenhawk.

In the Cheneys' world everything just turned out hunky-dory until Obama came along. Who needs reality anyway?

Bush dignity? Another oxymoron stalks the blogs.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

imavettoo — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:19:48 -0000

Dubya-Dignity=oxymoron, moron.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

DLS — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:08:04 -0000

Grow up, people. There's no excuse for overreacting and silly-lib cheap shots. Someone was going to be first, and first in a professional-conservative-media-mouthpiece-role, to be publicly critical of Obama, just as a righty joined the foamier-mouth lefties in criticizing the President for not being more harsh toward Iran after that nation's post-election suppression of protests.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

zeezil — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:17:15 -0000

Bush honored our war dead – without fanfare, the photographers and the press corps. But then, Bush understands dignity.

And, it’s my understanding that Bush sent a letter of condolence to the family of every soldier killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. (And the signature on each letter was by Bush’s hand – not a machine.)

I haven’t heard what Obama’s practice is, if any.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JSpencer — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:02:30 -0000

Lliz Cheney is a mental and moral lightweight... even with the Cheney name... which is all she's got - and that ain't sayin much. If I could channel DLS for a moment, I'd say that "better people" will ignore her and move on. ;-)

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

rudi — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:24:21 -0000

Liz Cheney is pushing her agenda and her fathers legacy on the backs of dead soldier. Quite a class family...

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

StockBoySF — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:04:26 -0000

“I think that what President Bush used to do is do it without the cameras."

Liz is thinking of the OTHER things Bush did without cameras.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

kathykattenburg — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:24:13 -0000

Yes -- five times he had more important things to do. His wife was having a child. He was in college. His wife was having a child. I&#39m not sure what the other two were.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

davemartin7777 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:03:57 -0000

It should also be remembered that Dick Cheney never served... not even once after five deferments.

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

D. E.Rodriguez — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:00:25 -0000

Ahh, Liz Cheney. The daughter of the man who had more important things to do than to serve his country in the military....

Re: Liz Cheney: Obama Should Not Have Gone to Dover

JeffersonDavis — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:09:09 -0000

I know where Liz Cheney is coming from, but she is wrong.
The President SHOULD be their to receive soldiers that died under his command. That goes for ANY President. It is (or should be) part of the job.

If he does it as part of a PR event to gain politically (as I suspect Obama does with every movement), then his ethics should be in question. I pray that is not the case here.

I even respected the salute he gave as the caskets came off the plane. Some vets may resent that, but the Commander-in-Chief can salute any time he darn well wants to - and this time was very appropriate. It was even a correct salute. Most civilians get it wrong.