The Moderate Voice - Latest Comments in McCain's Death Throes

Re: McCain's Death Throes

GreenDreams — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:25:19 -0000

At this point, it's probably too late even for a national security incident, since that would undoubtedly be another hit on the economy. I just don't see any realistic way to scare America into running back to daddy.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

Gichin13 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:08:32 -0000

Mike Murphy must be dying. So much for the happy warrior meme.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

superdestroyer — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:30:39 -0000

At least somone else realize that the election is effectively order. Not only will Senator Obama win in a rout but it is now likely that the Democrts will get their 60 seats in the Senate and make the Repulbicans irelevant.

The real question is how will the U.S. function as a one party state as the Republicans finish their death spiral. HOw will politics be changed when the Democratic primary is a more important election than the general election.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

SteveK — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:17:43 -0000

When I was a firefighter we were FORBIDDEN to do anything political WHILE IN UNIFORM.

You could think what you wanted and do what you wanted BUT not with your uniform on... PERIOD.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

StockBoySF — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:01:11 -0000

Rudi (and elrod), re: law enforcement campaigning.... I don't know either, but considering we're talking about a presidential candidate and I were a law enforcement official I be very care how I tread...

If I ad strongly tied Obama to terrorists (and that's what the cop was doing by using Barack's middle name) and then sometime in the future a mad person injured (or killed) Obama or Biden on my watch, even if I had had nothing to do with it, I would be really worried that the secret service would consider me a suspect.... At the very least the resulting investigation on me would be a major hassle....

I agree with elrod that it was tacky, it also showed poor judgement.... Not so much the campaigning part (I think officers can campaign for whoever they want), but linking Obama to terrorists is the poor judgement piece.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

PulSamsara — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:01:02 -0000

John McCain has denigrated into a DISHONORABLE 'has-been'
who carries the old cynical flag of a dying ideology.

Good riddance to the backward Republican party...
... about to get ground under the American heel.
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Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

StockBoySF — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:50:35 -0000

"Only a national security crisis or massive revelation from Obama can save John McCain now. Barring that, this campaign is essentially over."

I hope Bush and Cheney don't put their heads together and try to provoke something.... It wouldn't be the first time.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

elrod — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:50:17 -0000

Rudi,
I don't think so. Sheriffs are pretty political. Showing up in uniform is tacky though.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

rudi — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:45:07 -0000

I wonder if the Lee county sheriff operates under similar laws to the military. Are law enforcement members suppose to campaign for candidates while in uniform or while on duty?

Re: McCain's Death Throes

JSpencer — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:33:20 -0000

"Barring that, this campaign is essentially over."

I hope you're right - and I hope the Bradley effect is as limited as you think it is.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

elrod — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:48:39 -0000

I laid out two scenarios that save McCain: a national security incident or a major revelation. The Bradley Effect can only work so far.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

GeorgeSorwell — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:39:07 -0000

I agree with JSpencer that it is hubris indeed to count your chickens before they're hatched.

And I wonder if McCain could turn it around by suddenly going positive, instead of sticking to his obviously hypocritical and desperate mudslinging.

Re: McCain's Death Throes

JSpencer — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:23:59 -0000

Pardon me, but I've been watching democrat presidential contenders far too long to take anything for granted, especially when we're talking about something as revolutionary as a black presidential contender. As far as I'm concerned Obama will need a steady 10 pt. lead right up till election day to counter the subtle and not so subtle strains of rascism that will surface in the voting booth - this in addition to whatever nasty October surprise is hatched by a desperate opposition. I do understand the compelling case you make Elrod; afterall, the logic and reason IS in Obama's corner, and McCain has done much to sabotage his own campaign... let's just hope it all turns out to be enough to give certain people their walking papers.