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Its affirmative action at its worst--- an update of the Clarence Thomas pick by Bush Sr to replace the beloved liberal Thurgood Marshall.
How many people would really vote for her on the basis of her husband being a fisherman?? Will there be some who might do that? Possibly. Huge numbers? Game changing numbers, even? No.
The name calling on Sil's part is also still rather pathetic.
Yes, Palin will please pro-life women. But Hillary's supporters are not pro-lifers.
All this will take is one terse statement from Hillary Clinton herself dismissing this pick as a sham and the gambit will be thrown back at McCain.
It also takes away McCain argument against Obama. So, the woman a heartbeat away from the White House has zero foreign policy experience and 18 months as governor of the third least populous state in America (before which she was mayor of a small town). Obama may not call her inexperienced. But he will definitely challenge McCain to keep calling HIM inexperienced.
McCain's choice of Sarah Palin was a good one. McCain knows that people think with their guts first and foremost and leave liberalistic minute dissection to people with more time on their hands..
Here's how Palin will appeal to the MAJORITY of undecided voters:
1. She will rope in MILLIONS of former Clinton supporters by gut-virtue of the fact that simply: she is a woman. That's how they think, not how I think..
2. She will rope in working-class states needed for the win. Her husband is a commercial Alaskan fisherman..one of the most successful TV shows today is the reality show on crab fishing in Alaska. Their grit and bravado is unequalled. This will appeal heartily to working class Joes and Janes who see risking their lives for their job as highly admirable.
3. She will appeal to any republicans who formerly had thoughts of straying away from the GOP. Instantly she will galvanize them back from her pro-life stance.
(are we keeping track so far? McCain/Palin will rope in virtually all republicans now...that's ALL of them folks...and a huge chunk of previously undecided and disgruntled Clinton supporters...like their "logic" or not...
Those are the stark realities of the November numbers. Now. Sit down and do the math, and pour yourself a stiff one tonight Obamabots...failure often comes so quickly on the wings of "success".
You should've picked Clinton for a name on the ticket Obama. Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid STUPID!
kritt, "affirmative action at its worst"? Are you serious? What privilege was Palin given? And coming from a state known for corruption? While that certainly is true, I think the perfect example of corruption is Washington. He didn't pick someone from the inside. I'm not supporting her or McCain, but to me, this sounds like a pretty solid pick, and with the experience issue now nullified maybe they can actually start debating policy, rather than who did what where when while no one was looking.
Silhouette is right that “McCain knows that people will think with their gut first….” But in my opinion Palin will generate lots of excitement and talk for the next few days but then after that….. Silhouette argument falls falt.
Let’s face it, Palin is a good pick because she’s a woman and fresh. A lot of people will give her a good hard look, but the top of the ticket is McCain and it’s his policies (which Palin supports, by the way) that people will mostly vote on. I hope the voters are smarter to vote for someone just because they were runner-up in the Miss Alaska and got Miss Congeniality who is new to the political scene. The reality is that Palin has never gotten anywhere near the political big leagues and has nowhere near the requisite experience…. Has she even ever been out of the US before? Sure the GOP can claim she’s a governor… but for less than two years and for a state with less than the population of Austin, TX.
Once the GOP convention is over women will wake-up, realize the Obama/Biden ticket is stronger by far and vote based on policies and world (and national) experience. To be sure some folks will vote for McCain now that Palin is on the ticket, but at the end of the day it’s more cause to pause and consider McCain and his choice of successor then to debate the merits of a strong ticket (of McCain had picked someone with better qualifications) which this pick does not bring McCain.
I totally agree with kritt that this is affirmative action at its worst (and considering how the Republicans have howled that Barack and his wife got special treatment and consideration for college admissions because they were black is ridiculous, especially considering both are intelligent and both graduated with honors).
As one final thought… I actually see a lot of potential for Palin being a good politician, there are lots of things I find intriguing about her… but as VP right now? No way.
I think this just changes the game until the end of the GOP convention.
For me, Ms. Palin is one step too far down the pandering path that Mr. McCain has chosen to tread.
Not that my vote will count in the general election for President. Alaska is reliably in the McCain column. All the more reason for Mr. McCain to choose someone other than Ms. Palin, in my opinion.
Let’s see how the MSM handles telling the public that a woman is a bad pick.
If you think the republicans had a rough time dancing around Barak and racism (with the only downside being the risk of offending the black vote – which they wouldn’t get anyway), wait until it sinks in how carefully the words need to be picked so as not to offend 53% of the voting public.
This is not a good pick, politically. She does not make the ticket stronger, it smacks of a cheap stunt, and will backfire.
I truly thought Obama was becoming vulnerable, but not now.
However, the real comparison is between Palin and Obama. Palin brings to the table executive experience, and actual concrete achievement in the area of ethics reform and anti-corruption, not just speeches. She trumps the Obama message of Change by being the embodiment of positive change from outside the beltway that has stood up to and won against the "establishment". Obama can point to his speeches, Palin can point to her resume and real achievement.
The quicker that the Palin as a substitute to Hilliary is dismissed (after all Palin is running against Hilliary is as irrelevent as Obama running against Bush) the better. This election needs to be about the folks running, and a comparison of their experience, achievements, and policies for the future, not meaningless comparisons with folks who aren't running. To do otherwise is to do an injustice to Palin and her remarkable achievements and the vison she brings for America.
Palin will give them the opportunity to offend the largest group.
This is going to be fun.
Palin is a strategic choice. She is NO Hillary. She is not even close. However she is a woman. As Obama is a first for his party, Palin is a first for hers.
This election seems to have slid once again into emotion and now roughly 51 percent of Americans have something new to think about. Voting for a woman. Palin pulls in the conservative base and might just add some of those disaffected Hillary voters even more then Mccain did.
Additonally what are we talking about today? Obama? His speech? The Democrats? NOPE.........were talking about the GOP and Palin and McCain.
The best thing that the blogs could have done for Obama is to totally ignore this selection for about 3 days while they basked in Obama's glow. Nope. They had to go out and give Palin and McCAin all the press coverage.
The majority if voters vote their gut. Thought I'd just remind folks of that.
And Palin comes across as intelligent, gutsy, and no-nonsense. Her nickname "Sarah-Barricuda" will serve her well in time of war. Her stance on abortion is worrying, yet when you consider that BigOil calls the shots in the GOP camp, you can rest assured that they won't let that issue interfere with the GOP popularity in four years should these two rock the boat too much with middle-ground voters..
They will use it now of course to rope in conservatives, but in PRACTICE it won't be an issue. BigOil will make sure of that..
Palin also is extremely appealing to women because if McCain's advanced age makes him unfit to lead, guess what? The first woman president could be a reality in less than four years! She could be satan personified, but like Obama, everyone will be willing to look past even the worst of flaws in order to see that skin color [substitute "gender" in Palin's case] make history...
People think with their guts and vote the same way. If that reality didn't hit home with democrats lining up so heartily behind the worst of two choices strategically, then it never will.
Obama was a fundamentally unserious choice for president.
Didn’t you listen to any of Hillary’s speeches?
Let’s hope that someone on Obama’s staff or the media says that Palin is a “fundamentally unserious choice”. That will play real well.
I'm telling you this race isnt' about issues because if it was, it would be a very different race indeed. People are swept up in "making history" and are delusional when it comes to weighing what really matters. Clinton would've turned this country around on its heels and brought new prosperity where debt now chokes us nearly to death.
Nobody wanted to look at that. Obama's glowing brown skin had them mesmerized so much that even their empty wallets didn't feel so thin anymore...filled with "hope" instead.
Clinton would've put some Benjamin Franklins in there...but...noooooooooo.....
People aren't sane this time around. I think they're acting like a panicky herd of wildebeasts....and look for gut-voting when that happens..
What do you think of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as John McCain's running mate? * 348935 responses
Sarah Palin is the best choice for the job.
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McCain should have picked someone else.
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"The myopocy of the left tilt here..."
what's "myopocy"? is that a real word?
Huh?
In the US Senate Obama was on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs. He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs. Obama is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He co-sponsored legislation on nuclear safety, conventional arms (among others).
Palin, on the other hand, has a bachelors in Journalism from the University of IDaho, was mayor of a small town and has been governor of Alaska (with fewer people than Austin TX) for less than two years. Her legislation is good ethics reform, promoting oil drilling, and doing away with many pork-barrel projects, as well as lowering taxes.
So for those of you who believe that Obama does not have any experience or that Palin's experience is better than his, I ask you to look at their records. I'll take Obama's vast and far broader experience over Palin's thin experience (and she might be a new governor but there are many cities in the US with larger populations than her state) any day.
Whether these appealing characteristics grab more people than a Romney or other pick would have, I have no idea. It should be noted that both of her previous significant political victories came against people who had many years of experience, so she should not be discounted as obviously naive.
One thing the Dems could seize on pretty quickly to hamper the folksy, I'm-like-you image, is to highlight her apparent opposition to putting polar bears on the endangered species list as well as her strong ties to oil. Are her ties to oil the way to go when we are supposed to be seriously seeking alternatives? And those polar bears are pretty popular. Most people couldn't care less if you wipe out the snail darter, but polar bears get a reaction.
If McCain loses as many expect him to do, the GOP did not want to take down their best and brightest in a blaze of glory.
This pick by McCain was a sure sign to me that they understand they are going to lose the election in November.
If so then why bring down the future with them???
"The myopocy of the left tilt here..."
what's "myopocy"? is that a real word?"
No, the real word is myopia....
But, in a posting forum of people who have a proven track record of NOT knowing how uncommitted voters will break, why confine yourself to reality?
Bottom line: She said during her speech today that she supports McCain's policies (and McCain supports Bush's) so what does she really bring, other than a woman who toes the GOP line?
Not at all. I've done some rejiggering to potentially defer 50% of my 2009 wages into a non-qualified tax-deferred plan to weather out the possible foray into 4 years of socialism. It can only be upside potential from here on out.
The difference is that this selection blows up McCain's bid for the undecided middle. For the rational person in the middle, if they were looking for a reason to go with Obama vs. McCain , this selection sealed the deal for Obama. If someone was really UNDECIDED there is no way that person would go with McCain in light of this selection. This selection also seals the deal with any undecided voter who thought that McCain was actually a moderate on choice.
And the debates--what a disaster. Palin vs. Biden--you have got to be kidding me. And those people that think that Biden will overplay his hand and be too aggressive like Rick Lazio vs. Hillary, don't worry about it. All Biden needs to do is attack McCain and ignore Palin. Be nice, be polite but slice and dice McCain like a ginsu. And what will Palin be able to do.
Mayor of a 6,000 person town followed by the governor for 1 1/2 years of a state with less population than your standard suburban county. My county executive has more experience running a government operation.
except I also think its about showing women that the GOP can be more progressive--- and not just nominate white males.