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Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

iDEA — Sat, 23 May 2009 11:48:49 -0000

"The press is the only tocsin of a nation. When it is completely silenced... all means of a general effort are taken away." - Thomas Jefferson. It seems the Obama Administration is trying to silience the freedom of the press. It is using its own production facilities to flood every channel on the Internet with its own highly produced version of the news. Take a look at how Obama wrapped his speech with the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. http://pfx.me/eX

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

KevinA — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:04:07 -0000

I must, in part, agree with others here. Sklar's original HuffPo piece was speculative. She just ASSUMED the denial was nefarious. Now, maybe it was. Some in the campaign surely have way too thin skins. BUT Sklar, nor Mike Allen, actually provide evidence.

Given that 200 journalists applied for 40 spots, evidence is needed here. After all, the other 158 who were denied could claim similar motives. Are we to assume that everyone denied was done so for pol. reasons?

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

TheSkepticalCynic — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:53:50 -0000

It just goes to prove the adage
Just One
AW, Shit!

wipes out at ten ATTA BOYs..

Even as a hardcore skeptical cynic, given to acerbic and vituperative prose in satirical sarcasm or sarcastic satire I think The New Yorker went waaaay over the line,

In assuming that its reader were so sophisticated and perspicacious as to recognize the cover as satirical , it is quite possible that they assumed a fact for which there is or was no evidence or at least so very little that the immediate reaction to it would be shock and disbelief not the laughter they were seeking. Add to this, was the comment that those for whom the caricatures might confirm their biases and prejudices "don't read The New Yorker" is just so much elitist clap trap.

Continuum and jdledell are both right on point.

This is just "entertainment "snewz" " attempting to create a story where none exists. This is The New Yorker attempting to distract the focus from their factual screw up, to a MUS non-existent one. Think of WMD, .

Debrezza you had completely right before the last sentence.
And as for Silhouette? Reminds me of a harbor tug boat - it too makes it loudest noise when in the deepest fog!

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

AustinRoth — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:38:08 -0000

Chris - spoken like a true Fascist, or Leftist, but I repeat myself.

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

runasim — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:09:50 -0000

The MUST READ at Huhuffington Post is typical of its shallow headline grabbing, no clear thinking articles. Arianne is a media personality and her Post is competing in the media world for attention. It's the Internet version of Cable News channels competing for ratings with faux outrages and irresponsible allegations.

Besides, Obama didn't take Arianne's' advice about veering left, so there is a lot of her resentment being channeled through opinion pieces chosen for inlcusion.

Some MUST READS are better left unread, or at least taken for what they are, headline grabbers as marketing ploys.

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

ChrisWWW — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:47:21 -0000

Sil,
If your history at Talkleft is anything like your history here, then I can understand perfectly why they'd ban you.

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

Silhouette — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:15:44 -0000

Being a moderate and not a leftist or neocon (a true neocon, not a reverse psychologist..lol) I am becoming increasingly alarmed at the similarities between the two seemingly different radical camps. They are more like bookends, each a reflection of the other..

For instance, like this "oopsies, you can't come along" manuever by the Obama camp, over at Talkleft all it took for me to get banned there, without warning, was to speak critically of Obama's lack of experience to qualify him as a president...no name calling on my behalf, no harshness, no bullying...just laying out the facts.

WHAM, without warning or even comment, I was banned. Banned, mind you, simply for exercising my opinion about Barack Obama.

It's this "untouchable" air that follows him that worries me. It is very reminiscent of George W. Bush in fact. And many people who spoke out against him within the ranks of his own party were systematically "banned" from the administration.

Beware of extremes....not of differing ideas... Extremes breed the same type of fascist phenomenon, no matter what the color of the uniform...

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

timr — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:59:53 -0000

but st john McCain does the very same thing on a daily basis, yet what do we hear about this story................................crickets.

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

jdledell — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:49:50 -0000

With only 20% of the seats being able to be filled there is bound to be some favortism involved. It would be interesting to see a full roster of the lucky 40 winners to see if favortism or vindictiveness was more of the deciding factor. .

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

continuum — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:43:15 -0000

You've written this column as satire, right???? Only 40 seats available, yet over 200 reporters apply. Are you now going to write an expose about why the other 160 didn't get a seat, too? Use your common sense. The New Yorker is not a daily reporting venue. The New Yorker deals with long range in depth coverage. Many of the stories require heavy research and background study. It would seem reasonable that the Obama campaign would desire more up-to-the-minute coverage at this stage in the elections.

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

MaryL — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:08:14 -0000

So Obama had to bend over backwards to give Lizza a hotly contested seat or else he would look weak and vindictive? Better that he look weak and whipped instead?

Tempest and teapot time, Joe.

Re: New Yorker Reporter Denied Seat On Obama Overseas Trip Plane

Ricorun — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:31:26 -0000

So let's see... there were 40 slots and more than 200 applicants. That means more than four out of every five had to be turned down. So why is it necessary to conclude retribution was involved in Lizza not being selected?

Retribution for unfavorable coverage is indeed a chilling thing to contemplate. Then again, special treatment for unfavorable coverage doesn't make much sense, either.