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Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

CStanley — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:38:22 -0000

Very well said, elrod.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

CStanley — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:38:22 -0000

Very well said, elrod.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

GeorgeBruce — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:14:31 -0000

lurxst said:

"When some fringe wacko, filled full ...gibberish; encouraged by...elected Republican(s)...calling the President a "liar" .....or the "anti-christ"; ..... inundated with radio blowhards questioning the ... the president&#39s citizenship and equating him as some marxist dictator, when this wacko finally blows and does something to ... kill the president or some member of congress, it will be really great to look back at all this and say, "Wow, we never saw it coming."

Well, we have been there and done that. In 1963 the President of the US was killed by a communist. Oswald had clear ties to the Soviet Union and communism in general. That he was a communist, whether he had a card on him at the time, or not, was undisputed. In fact, the Soviets rejected Oswald as a nut case, exactly as the Michigan Militia rejected McVeigh. World War III was adverted because sane people realized that the Oswald murder of a US President was not the opening act of a nuclear war that would have killed hundreds of millions, but rather the lone act of a madman who hoped to influence history beyond his weight, just as McVeigh hoped.

Did some "saw it coming?" Maybe, but sanity prevailed.

I hope that Obama serves out his full term and is soundly rejected by the voters in 2012.

I trust that you will join with me in hoping that, should anything happen to the President in the meantime, whoever may be responsible, (including the not unlikely possibility that another communist might do it), sanity will again prevail and the country will deal with our tragedy in a constitutional manner and that democracy will be preserved.

For one thing, I shudder to think what race riots may occur if anything happens to the President, and my first suspicions, should that happen, will be cast to the left and not to the right.

After all, as the Romans asked, “who benefits?” Just as the left tried to take advantage of Teddy Kennedy’s death to press forward with nationalized health care, I am sure that the untimely death of President Obama would result in calls for the full implementation of his agenda, ( and the carving of his visage on Mount Rushmore.) Any attempt to overthrow Obama is the worst possible thing that could happen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, and the best possible thing for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

ordinarysparrow — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:44:09 -0000

poor soul. . .living with such terrorism of the mind. . .

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

Dr J — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:05:31 -0000

If I can&#39t actually convince the public that socialism is great, then I&#39ll do it through the schools.

Unfortunately, our state-run schools aren&#39t up to the job.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

JeffersonDavis — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:41:31 -0000

"The basic rule of conservatism:..."

And here&#39s the basic rule of liberalism:
1. If I am a vegetarian - then YOU must be vegetarian.
2. If I don&#39t want to work - then YOU must pay me.
3. If I don&#39t want to earn - then YOU must feed me.
4. If I don&#39t want to take responsibility for my own actions - blame someone else and sue them.
5. If I can&#39t actually convince the public that socialism is great, then I&#39ll do it through the schools and through the courts.

:)
LOL

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

GeorgeBruce — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:14:31 -0000

lurxst said:

"When some fringe wacko, filled full ...gibberish; encouraged by...elected Republican(s)...calling the President a "liar" .....or the "anti-christ"; ..... inundated with radio blowhards questioning the ... the president's citizenship and equating him as some marxist dictator, when this wacko finally blows and does something to ... kill the president or some member of congress, it will be really great to look back at all this and say, "Wow, we never saw it coming."

Well, we have been there and done that. In 1963 the President of the US was killed by a communist. Oswald had clear ties to the Soviet Union and communism in general. That he was a communist, whether he had a card on him at the time, or not, was undisputed. In fact, the Soviets rejected Oswald as a nut case, exactly as the Michigan Militia rejected McVeigh. World War III was adverted because sane people realized that the Oswald murder of a US President was not the opening act of a nuclear war that would have killed hundreds of millions, but rather the lone act of a madman who hoped to influence history beyond his weight, just as McVeigh hoped.

Did some "saw it coming?" Maybe, but sanity prevailed.

I hope that Obama serves out his full term and is soundly rejected by the voters in 2012.

I trust that you will join with me in hoping that, should anything happen to the President in the meantime, whoever may be responsible, (including the not unlikely possibility that another communist might do it), sanity will again prevail and the country will deal with our tragedy in a constitutional manner and that democracy will be preserved.

For one thing, I shudder to think what race riots may occur if anything happens to the President, and my first suspicions, should that happen, will be cast to the left and not to the right.

After all, as the Romans asked, “who benefits?” Just as the left tried to take advantage of Teddy Kennedy’s death to press forward with nationalized health care, I am sure that the untimely death of President Obama would result in calls for the full implementation of his agenda, ( and the carving of his visage on Mount Rushmore.) Any attempt to overthrow Obama is the worst possible thing that could happen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, and the best possible thing for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

lurxst — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:51:34 -0000

When some fringe wacko, filled full of Fox Propaganda Network gibberish; encouraged by his elected Republican lawmakers calling the President a "liar" or "enemy of humanity" or the "anti-christ"; having been inundated with radio blowhards questioning the validity of the president&#39s citizenship and equating him as some marxist dictator, when this wacko finally blows and does something to try and kill the president or some member of congress, it will be really great to look back at all this and say, "Wow, we never saw it coming."

Fairness doctrine returns.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

Leonidas — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:12:10 -0000

Of course they’re advocating

Ummm...no.

They are being silly, no not advocating. I have no problem with denonucing them for silliness, but you will have to forgive me for not wearing a tinfoil cap.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

GeorgeBruce — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:46:42 -0000

Now, now. You all are getting yourselves all worked up for nothing. There is no monster in the closet, no boogieman under the bed and no military plot to overthrow Obama. Now, drink your warm milk and try to go back to sleep.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

ordinarysparrow — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:44:09 -0000

poor soul. . .this kind of extremism is terrorism of the mind. . .

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

elrod — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:15:29 -0000

Let me go contrarian here knowing that my pro-Obama cred is golden... This kook who posted this column may be channeling some far right fantasy stuff out there. But to say that it represents anything beyond that is just opportunism. One of the problems in politics is that we discredit even moderate opponents by linking them with extremist loons. It&#39s like when the Right goes after some liberal because he once worked for an organization that had a board member that once worked at an organization that got some money from ACORN. These markers of extremism are useful for the other side to exploit and discredit. But if they don&#39t turn into action they are just the random rantings of side lunatics.

If something violent does come of all this rhetoric then the story changes. I firmly believe that Timothy McVeigh did as much to re-elect Bill Clinton as anybody - simply by discrediting much of the hard core anti-government Right and by setting the country up to blame the GOP for the famous October 1995 government shutdown.

Americans tolerate radical speech. American do not tolerate radical action. That&#39s why marches and protests on both sides end up doing very little to influence people. But when those events become genuinely destructive or violent the backlash is something fierce.

So I won&#39t get worked up over this idiot - as long as nobody decides to carry out his fantasy.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

Gootmud — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:05:31 -0000

If I can't actually convince the public that socialism is great, then I'll do it through the schools.

Unfortunately, our state-run schools aren't up to the job.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

DLS — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:00:17 -0000

"Newsmax [...] just reading the tea [bag & party] leaves"

(Completed)

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

kathykattenburg — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:49:35 -0000

Thank you, nj! I updated to give you a shout-out. :-)

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

JeffersonDavis — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:31 -0000

"The basic rule of conservatism:..."

And here's the basic rule of liberalism:
1. If I am a vegetarian - then YOU must be vegetarian.
2. If I don't want to work - then YOU must pay me.
3. If I don't want to earn - then YOU must feed me.
4. If I don't want to take responsibility for my own actions - blame someone else and sue them.
5. If I can't actually convince the public that socialism is great, then I'll do it through the schools and through the courts.

:)
LOL

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

kathykattenburg — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:40:57 -0000

Which is precisely why I wrote, "Newsmax claims they are not advocating, just reading the tea leaves. That’s horse manure. Of course they’re advocating." So telling me what the article clearly states does not really work as an expression of disagreement, y&#39now?

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

GeorgeSorwell — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:11:04 -0000

CStanley--

Earlier this year, a group of Republican Congressmen introduced legislation about birth certificates.

The fringe of the Right actually gets elected officials to do that sort of thing.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

Stogie — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:08:48 -0000

"The Moderate Voice" is another way of "Sitting on the Fence."

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

Father_Time — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:58:25 -0000

"Obama has slow walked gay rights issues and remains on record as opposing gay marriage"-

Yeah this needs to be dropped off a bridge and forgotten. It&#39s one of those no substance feel good issues and does way more harm than good.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

T-Steel — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:24:47 -0000

I get what you are saying SteveK. But Lee Harvey Oswald didn&#39t cause the dissolution of the United States even though he assassinated a President. You need groups to cause that (coups, etc). Like Joe, I&#39m completely turned off to rhetoric like this.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

lurxst — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:51:34 -0000

When some fringe wacko, filled full of Fox Propaganda Network gibberish; encouraged by his elected Republican lawmakers calling the President a "liar" or "enemy of humanity" or the "anti-christ"; having been inundated with radio blowhards questioning the validity of the president's citizenship and equating him as some marxist dictator, when this wacko finally blows and does something to try and kill the president or some member of congress, it will be really great to look back at all this and say, "Wow, we never saw it coming."

Fairness doctrine returns.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

Leonidas — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:12:10 -0000

Of course they’re advocating

Ummm...no.

They are being silly, no not advocating. I have no problem with denonucing them for silliness, but you will have to forgive me for not wearing a tinfoil cap.

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

DLS — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:56:16 -0000

A) Grow up about this; B) Be more productive by watching "Seven Days in May."

Re: Newsmax Calls for a Military Coup in U.S.

GeorgeBruce — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:46:42 -0000