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Re: No Do-Over in Florida

DLS — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:26:23 -0000

For the Florida delegates to deserve to be seated, Florida must vote again, too.

Re: No Do-Over in Florida

StockBoySF — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:12:46 -0000

I just don't get this statement in the posting by Ben Smith, “This is a real setback for Hillary, who could have gotten both delegates, momentum, and — crucially — a stronger chance to claim a popular vote lead out of the revote.”

Hillary already got 50% of the vote to O's 33%. The FL vote occurred early during the primary season. I think if it were re-done, then O would pick up more delegates. Unless Ben Smith believes that H has a lot of momentum now....

I don't think the FL delegates should be seated. Didn't FL voters know what they were risking when FL changed their primary date? But we can't have states change voting dates just because they think the change puts them in a more prominent position. We've seen how all the primaries/caucuses have been important to date, from Iowa to WY. The irony is that FL may have changed there primary date so they would have a bigger say, when it turns out that they have no say at all. Serves them right.

On MI: same thoughts as FL, really.

But if the Dems are able to do a revote in MI (which seems more likely than FL, because the GOP controlled politics in FL won't let a revote go forward) then the FL delegates will need to be seated, too.

Re: No Do-Over in Florida

DLS — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:08:12 -0000

"You owe the rest of us contrition, merely as a beginning..."

In case anyone has questions, the "you" here means those who want the delegates seated.

Re: No Do-Over in Florida

DLS — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:51:00 -0000

It was illegitimate. Remove the quotes for honesty.

It's likely something will be done with these two states but they have no right to see their delegates seated at all, and should approach this issue bearing this in mind -- along with others who want them to be seated. You owe the rest of us contrition, merely as a beginning...

Re: No Do-Over in Florida

PaulSilver — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:04:09 -0000

I am a fan seating Florida and Michigan delegates in proportion to the number of delegates Obama and Clinton now have nationally. This is because without a full campaign there is no other fair way to allocation delegates between them. And disenfranchising so many voters is just bad democratic form.