The Moderate Voice - Latest Comments in Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

jwest — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:14:24 -0000

As long as democrats listen to Bob Schrum, I sleep well at night.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

kritt11 — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:00:55 -0000

We'll see if the Democrats are smart enough to counteract the RNC's spin. If the GOP can get all of its surrogates to defend Palin and attack the process as tainted-- it may not really help. So far, a lot of negative information has surfaced about Palin-( I personally think she has some of the worst qualities of both Bush and Cheney--- )but a lot of what Obama has focused on has backfired.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

Ricorun — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:10:30 -0000

kritt, I would agree with you with considerable certainty if it were an isolated incident. But as part of a broader, "Just Like Bush" narrative it could have more legs. Obviously dedicated supporters won't be swayed no matter what. But others, well I guess we'll see.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

kritt11 — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:58:52 -0000

Ricorun-- It SHOULD be the gift that keeps on giving-- but the RNC will put it out that she is cooperating, but doesn't want to participate in a "tainted" proceeding, that is obviously politically motivated. (the investigative board is split 8R-4D! so this is disingenuous)

Their voters will buy it, because on Fox they won't report the damaging nuance----- that she will only appear before a state commission full of her own toadies, who were appointed mostly on the basis of their loyalty to her. Hmmmm, who is that sounding like?

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

admiral.naismith — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:38:03 -0000

Right, elrod, and the flipside is that where Obama had Clinton to sharpen him, McCain competed with the Great Plastic Romney and "Noun, Verb, 9/11" Giuliani (not the best debaters) for the spotlight.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

greenschemes — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:34:07 -0000

I rather suspect both sides partake of wishful thinking. The polls before Palin's selection used to read 49 Obama 41 McCain. 47 Obama, 43 McCain. 48 Obama 41 Mccain.

Get the picture here? 10 percent uncommitted. Now the polls are 49/48 McCain to 4748 Obama with 2 percent going to Barr and Nader. In other words roughly the entire electorate has now committed. Its a done deal.

Debates are wishful thinking. The only thing that could work for either candidates favor is a huge blunder by either side. McCain has been doing this for 27 years. Hes most likely not going to mess up. Biden will not mess up. Palin is the only wild card and she could mess up. However. I believe that as with Hillary and now with Palin this country So desperately wants change. They wanted a woman in the White House and with McCain and his age and a committment to 1 term, they just might be getting their wish with Palin.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

JSpencer — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:48:04 -0000

Well, I imagine it is wishful thinking, but it's also grounded in good sense. I think the initial euphoric reaction to Palin may once again become a worry - at least for those republicans who were initially aghast at the choice, and while this may not be reflected in polls so much now, I wouldn't be surprised to see the numbers move either by or after the debates. I know both sides will be as prepared as possible for those debates, there may be some surprises, and I don't expect particularly brilliant moderation, either... but it's hard for me to believe either McCain or Palin is looking forward to those debates with lots of enthusiasm. Of course the hope (among dems) is that the debates will peel back the layers of facade and reveal what is important. We shall see...

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

Ricorun — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:45:42 -0000

kritt: Today her campaign announced that she would not appear at the Alaskan ethics investigation of the firing of her brother-in-law unless it was passed on to a state board whose members she appointed. That's chutzpah, and it was hardly mentioned on cable news.

I suspect it is also one gift that keeps on giving, at least for another month. Add to that Ted Steven's trial. And, unfortunately, add to that the difficulties the economy is likely to experience between now and election time. That makes some pretty hard sledding for the GOP. But here's a wild card: what's going to happen with the energy debates? Those could be a very, very big deal.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

kritt11 — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:17:25 -0000

While I am not a fan of McCain-Palin, I think Shrum is engaging in some wishful thinking. Palin seems to be like Ronald Reagan -- coated in teflon.

Today her campaign announced that she would not appear at the Alaskan ethics investigation of the firing of her brother-in-law unless it was passed on to a state board whose members she appointed. That's chutzpah, and it was hardly mentioned on cable news.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

elrod — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:53:15 -0000

Neither candidate is very good in debates. Hillary Clinton is one of the best in the business and Obama improved a lot by sparring with her.

Re: Quote of The Day: Have McCain And Palin Peaked?

pacatrue — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:30:15 -0000

Well, I give Shrum a "does not mince words" award. While I look forward to the debates, I would be surprised if Obama runs away with it. He's good in debates, but not great. I just hope, since I think he's better for our country, that he can run away with 1 more electoral vote than McCain....