The Moderate Voice - Latest Comments in Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

Chauncy — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:32:58 -0000

From the comments (of jjmont1 and Grandma_Patches) it is evident that everyone from either side will not be pleased. This IS democracy at its best...or worst for that matter for some. But folks, we have to support the President-Elect, likeit or not. And for jjmont1 to be considering changing affiliations is a good example of "fair weather" friendship. And the man has not even been sworn in. Grandma, you seem to feel that she was entitled to at least the VP slot. Oh well, another bites the VP dust.

Mr. President-Elect, you do have my prayers and support.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

Grandma_Patches — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:10:18 -0000

Crumbs... he disses her then offers her crumbs. After pushing his way into Hillary's predestined role as president, then overlooking her for at least VP, now he offers her Secretary of State!!! Of course she would make a great one... she would have made a great president too... the best solution for our country at this time. Unbelievable!!!!!

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

jjmont1 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:06:56 -0000

Wow, Restating the obvious seems a little boring. Its correct. I didn't like her when she was first lady either.Whether anyone wants to admit it or not there are just too many questions. She tried to do the same thing that Cheney did with the enregy policies (Nee healthcare) but no one ever called her on it. If she thihnks its in her best interest she would throw Obama ANd the American people under the bus for her own agenda. I don't like her, I don't trust her and I think that anyone who does is just deluding themselves. It seems that people forget things in the aftermath of an election. As a former history teacher I have always tried to keep an open mind about what transpires but in this case, as with the Patriot Act, everyone is trying to figure out how to get a little security while at the same time trying to seem inclusive. Ben Franklin said that those who would give up some of their freedom for security deserve neither freedom OR security. Leave her in the Senate where she her views and votes can be modated. Putting her as Sec Of State makes her a loose cannon and hehas a problem with telling lies and engaging her mouth before she does her brain.
People misunderstand something about the Clinton Presidency. World leaders liked and respected Pres Clinton but almost all could neither stand nor did they trust Hillary. As a matter of fact, most Dems didn't either. The 8 years of Bill Clintons Presidency was a high mark the problem I see is that there are a lot of people that think Hillary was the cause and that just isn't the case. You NEVER give someone who is your stated rival a forum from which to speak. Obama would give Hillary a WORLD STAGE and can't be guarenteed just What she will say OR do with it.
Murphy's LAws will out. Never ask a question if you don't know what the answer will be and anything that can go wrong will go wrong and at the most inopportune moment!

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

AustinRoth — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:29:59 -0000

jj - so, it isn't completely clear from your post, but it seems you are leaning against Hillary as SoS? And I think I might have picked up on you not really liking her. Did I get that correct?

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

JSpencer — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:13:30 -0000

So... it won't be possible to please everyone then? ;-)

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

jjmont1 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:05:06 -0000

OMG YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!! I wouldn't put this shark in charge of a cottenball factory. You want to totally ruin what is left of America's rep in the world? You want to watch a backlash the likes of which you have never seen? Go ahead and make this back stabbing, self centered, america hateingf bitch Sec Of State. If you think Bush for 8 years was bad then you should hide and watch what is going to happen if she is the Sec of State. It'll make Bush's 8 years seem like never never land. You'll be BEGGING for the return of the Republicans. Much to my chagrin I voted for Obama because McCain was NOT the person he was in 2000. He cahnged too much for me to feel comfortable voting for him. Now, as an appeasement to the rabid faction of the democratic party, Obama is going to let this vilified and hated woman into one of the most impoortant posts in the world. Well when he does it will be a lame duck Presidency cause it will totally galvenize the opposition. Obama will be a ONE TERM WONDER. and Unfortunately most of those who voted for him will vote Republican in 2012. I'm already changing my affiliation and I've voted Democratic my whole life!!

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

grizzlyfish — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:10:21 -0000

Hillary is so over Secretary of State, and after a new position: Commissioner of the Bureau of Mutant Affairs.

http://www.weeklyworldnews....

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

AustinRoth — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:05:40 -0000

I read an interesting analysis that points out that because Hillary was a member of Congress when the pay and compensation for SoS was raised, that it may make her ineligible for the post. I don't know if this is just another 'Obama faked his Selective Service registration', or something with real traction, but on the surface it seems there may be some problems.

http://stubbornfacts.us/law...

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

kritt11 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:56:59 -0000

I think its a great idea. She obviously went all out for him, and has a lot more stature and experience on the world stage than Condi did when she became Sec State. Plus, Hillary won't have the disadvantage of a stealth VP. There was nowhere to go for her in the Senate.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

StockBoySF — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:41:01 -0000

The whole "meeting without preconditions" attack on Obama was purely political. Obama's opponents, both Dems and Republicans who throw out that attack were hoping to cast Obama as a naive capitulator to terrorist regimes....

But in as much as Obama's and Clintons foreign relations ideas differ it will be interesting to see how this plays out (assuming that Hillary accepts).

I take it from Sil's comment about the Sec. of State position being more prestigious than the prez's position that Sil is finally satisfied with how things turned out (assuming Hill is Sec. of State) and there won't be any more nasty comments about Obama, stolen elections (or whatever), etc. coming from Sil. That's worth Hillary getting the Sec. of State position right there. I can't think of a better reason. :)

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

pacatrue — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:49:07 -0000

I actually just realized why this is such a good political move. During the primaries, Sen. Clinton's biggest foreign policy knock on Obama was the "meeting without preconditions" idea. Guess who will get to implement that now? Sen. Clinton. Similarly, at least some Dems, such as I believe our Holly in Cincinatti, distrusted Obama's positions on Israel and thus were strong supporters of Sen. Clinton. Guess who now gets to be the prime negotiator for a Isreali/Palistinian peace deal? Sen. Clinton.

Assuming that she actually accepts.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

pacatrue — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:26:32 -0000

I've never thought of Clinton as a stupendous diplomat, but all her colleagues on both sides of the aisle describe her as extraordinarily competent. I imagine she will run the state department well and she seems to have a good combination of diplomacy and "ruthlessness" (for lack of a better word) so it could be a good match.

Is anyone getting the impression that the White House is about to be exponentially better run than the Senate?

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

JSpencer — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:54:13 -0000

Well, I know some people think this is a bad choice (Christopher Hitchens for one) and some questionable sources think it's a good choice (Henry Kissinger for one) but to me it represents forward thinking. All that stuff about keeping your enemies close may contain a grain of truth, but overall it seems a case of simply getting the best person for the job, namely Senator Clinton.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

AustinRoth — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:49:26 -0000

An interesting and good choice.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

GeorgeSorwell — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:46:59 -0000

Like Silhouette, I think this is a good idea.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

Lolis — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:29:52 -0000

I really hope Obama goes big. We need a lot of change to get America on the right track again.

Re: Report: Hillary Clinton Will Accept Obama Secretary Of State Job

Silhouette — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:20:40 -0000

You know...

The position of Secretary Of State is actually a more prestigious one than President if you think about it. Especially now. Our country will be made or broken on our ability to forge strong partnerships abroad. The person who sits as Secretary of State is more akin to what a monarch does in another country, or their Prime Minister. VERY important position. And of course it is tailor-made for the Clinton name. They already have the world's respect.

Kudos!!