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Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Silhouette — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:05:43 -0000

DLS...I agree with Father Time. Wanting gays to be under the umbrella of marriage is extreme. Wanting to extort people for insurance premiums is extreme. Just because each end of the polarity spectrum is desensitized to the radical nature of their agendas doesn&#39t mean they are any more palitible to those of us pragmatists in the center.

If you&#39re raised to see gay sex [and therefore marraige?} as normal, then you are aghast at anyone who would differ with your outlook. If you&#39re raised to believe people&#39s health is a profit commodity then anyone who is against your views is seen as bizarre...

There is something in the center that is lacking on either end of the spectrum. That is self control, moderation and a basic morality that transcends buzzwords, hype and political-correctness. It is a sober and mature position instead of an indulgent and childish set of demands from a perverse minority having a tantrum that the majority won&#39t let them have their way!!!

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Father_Time — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:02:54 -0000

DLS--

You are absolutely delusional.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

DLS — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:24:21 -0000

Neither party is truly extreme, despite the hype and related junk the Left hurls about the GOP, US conservatism, and the ever-hyped "Religious Right," "extreme right" [sic] and "far right" [sic], the latter of which actually has no clout at all -- even those who aren&#39t that way but are populist Right and paleo-con like Patrick Buchanan don&#39t peg the real-world meter. You have to view the rest of the public, most of whom are center-right, which point or just to the left (well right of this Web site) defines true moderation.

The Dems are farther left than the GOP is rightward, and the left Dems are starting to gain in Washington at our expense and more and more to our concern lately, but the truly farthest-left Dems still aren&#39t much in force, and many on the farther left are disenchanted with the Dems, anyway; some have been Greens.

The most noteworthy thing to watch for is something we&#39re starting to see already -- an effort by the Dems to shove Washiongton leftward on several issues rapidly. The nature of the effort concerns us as much as the nature of the bad legislation they are trying to pass, and we&#39re still trying to learn why they are doing what they are doing, because it is well to left of so much of what the public wants or expects.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Father_Time — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:21:52 -0000

DEATH TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Silhouette — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:50:34 -0000

I motion that the left drop gay marriage and the right drop resistance to universal health care..

BTW, we middle-grounders want the rainbow and the caduceus. back as symbols that the general population can use again without extreme and perverse agendas automatically being assigned to their display.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Father_Time — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:37:38 -0000

YES!

Trim a few issues on each and they BOTH AGREE! We can actually get something done on core issues.

May I suggest that they start by each dumping one fringe group issue.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Silhouette — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:05:43 -0000

If you're raised to see gay sex [and therefore marraige?} as normal, then you are aghast at anyone who would differ with your outlook. If you're raised to believe people's health is a profit commodity then anyone who is against your views is seen as bizarre...

There is something in the center that is lacking on either end of the spectrum. That is self control, moderation and a basic morality that transcends buzzwords, hype and political-correctness. It is a sober and mature position instead of an indulgent and childish set of demands from a perverse minority having a tantrum that the majority won't let them have their way!!!

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

tidbits — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:44:31 -0000

The more pertinent examination would be how Independents and unaffiliated voters view the parties.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Father_Time — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:02:54 -0000

DLS--

You are absolutely delusional.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

DLS — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:24:21 -0000

The Dems are farther left than the GOP is rightward, and the left Dems are starting to gain in Washington at our expense and more and more to our concern lately, but the truly farthest-left Dems still aren't much in force, and many on the farther left are disenchanted with the Dems, anyway; some have been Greens.

The most noteworthy thing to watch for is something we're starting to see already -- an effort by the Dems to shove Washiongton leftward on several issues rapidly. The nature of the effort concerns us as much as the nature of the bad legislation they are trying to pass, and we're still trying to learn why they are doing what they are doing, because it is well to left of so much of what the public wants or expects.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Father_Time — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:21:52 -0000

DEATH TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Silhouette — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:50:34 -0000

I motion that the left drop gay marriage and the right drop resistance to universal health care..

BTW, we middle-grounders want the rainbow and the caduceus back as symbols that the general population can use again without extreme and perverse agendas automatically being assigned to their display.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

Father_Time — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:37:38 -0000

YES!

Trim a few issues on each and they BOTH AGREE! We can actually get something done on core issues.

May I suggest that they start by each dumping one fringe group issue.

Re: Sabato’s Crystal Ball: Do Americans View Both Parties as Too Extreme?

tidbits — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:44:31 -0000

The more pertinent examination would be how Independents and unaffiliated voters view the parties.