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Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

DLS — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:03:04 -0000

Actually, the far Left considered Clinton a traitor for conceding somewhat to reality after the 1994 elections. (The far Left also hated those election results.)

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

ChrisWWW — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:13:27 -0000

That's the typical entitlement-addicted mentality. Reducing spending is criminal.

Increasing spending or redirecting the current levels is gospel. Remember that famous phrase after the Cold War ended, the "peace dividend" (to be spent, of course).

So you're a closet Bill Clinton fan. Good to know.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

DLS — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:35:09 -0000

"Cut the budget...........HOW DARE US. Balance the BUDGET.........HOW DARE WE."

That's the typical entitlement-addicted mentality. Reducing spending is criminal.

Increasing spending or redirecting the current levels is gospel. Remember that famous phrase after the Cold War ended, the "peace dividend" (to be spent, of course).

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

ChrisWWW — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:58:19 -0000

Corn is filler. It might be your favorite vegetable, but it's very low in actual nutrition.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Neocon — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:09:48 -0000

Well I think runasim's response is the one the democrats AND republicans rely upon to keep from ever balancing the budget.

Balancing budgets in normal times is fine and dandy.

Year after year and decade after decade their is always an exceptional event that prevents us from balancing the budget. There always will be. They depend on this type of thinking to convince the ordinary tax payer that THIS year is no exception.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

runasim — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:39:21 -0000

McCain is definitely in over his head when it comes to the economy.
On the last video I saw, he was even pretending his summer gas tax relief proposal wasn't meant seriously.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

runasim — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:41:43 -0000

jchem,
I've balanced my budget pretty successfully, with dramatic exceptions.
When a serious, long lasting health condition beset my husband, I had to go into serious debt, despite the excellent insurance coverage we had, I'm still trying to work myself out ot it, because I couldn't put my children up for adoption while I dealt with bills,

Balancing budgets in normal times is fine and dandy.
These are not normal times. On top of everything else, we are financing our wars by not paying for them.

Then, too we have this:
BALANCE THE BUDGET, BUT DON'T ASK ME TO CONTRIBUTE BY PAYING TAXES. Let someone else pay, especially those most heavily affected by stagnated wages and rising prices.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Neocon — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:59:50 -0000

Well I think Jim Hit upon it.

We dont want to lower the peoples standard of living.

The people have come to rely upon the government too much.

The government is too big. It employs too many people to cut the budget.

The government is a self perpetuating entity that feeds upon your paychecks.

So to sum up Jims positon and oppose a balanced budget:

The government has established itself as a germ.........a virus in our lives and it is constantly growing and growing. It is a leech upon society. A once useful tool for the advancement of a society has become an entity unto itself.....ever voracious, ever starving to be fed.

And feed it we do. With more and more tax dollars so it can become larger and larger until it absorbs us.

Cut the budget...........HOW DARE US. Balance the BUDGET.........HOW DARE WE.

The government must be fed. It must LIVE. Tax the people more............drain them more and more to feed the beast.....For the beast must be fed.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

jchem — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:28:22 -0000

Balancing the budget, eh? I think I have heard this line before. Every presidential candidate says they will do it, yet every one succeeding them always tries to make it part of the platform...I sense a problem here.

I think we could tame our spending habits quite a bit by limiting the pork barrel spending. I mean, if you look at some of the earmarks on any bill that gets passed, you have to wonder why the country has to pay for it (think about the "bridge to nowhere").

Like Neocon said, we all individually have a budget to balance. Why can't we expect the same thing from our government? I mean, if my household was spending in the red as much as our government likes to do, then I would be declaring bankruptcy here pretty soon. How long can this continue? We can't spend money that we don't have. Probably the wisest advice I ever received. Why can't the government take this to heart?

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Jim_Satterfield — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:19:31 -0000

Let's see, the economy is currently (In spite of what the old definition says.) in a recession. If you're going to cut government spending by 10% across the board you're going to fire a lot of people. Bringing our servicemen home from bases in peaceful countries won't save that much money unless you're going to discharge them from the military. Increase unemployment, reduce consumer spending. You're going to cut benefits in social programs as well. That means less money for the poorest people to spend. It means more stress on already strained private charities. None of these factors will do wonders for consumer confidence, something our economy counts on. Yeah, I'd say it could just be enough to kick us over into a Depression. Or at the very least a deeper recession.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Neocon — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:44:13 -0000

Im curious. Why is cutting the budget by 10 percent a depression?

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

roro80 — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:26:46 -0000

Wow...McCain really isn't the next Bush -- he knows what Belarus is. I think that makes him an elistist, don't you?

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Jim_Satterfield — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:16:25 -0000

Can you say Depression instead of Recession? That's the Neocon solution.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Neocon — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:56:02 -0000

I really dont know whats so hard about balancing the budget. If were 400 billion in the hole then cut spending by 400 billion.

We do it. You cant spend what you dont have. How hard can balancing the budget be?

Once we have balanced the budget then how about a 10 percent national sales tax devoted directly to paying down the debt. Any surplus would be mandated to pay down the debt.

Solved. Every agency has to cut 10 percent from their budget. Gee that was easy.

Or mabey we could just come home from all those foreign countries, stop spending money on their economies and save another 200 billion per year and then each agency would only have to cut 5 percent.

Balancing the budget is done in homes all across the nation. Most states have a balanced budget............ITS TIME AMERICA. Demand a balanced budget. Or demand your congressmans job.

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

GeorgeSorwell — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:53:08 -0000

Obama wants to banish corn.

There you go again: typical neoconservative hysteria!!

;)

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

DLS — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:36:00 -0000

(or Iran)

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

DLS — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:35:50 -0000

He said Belarus instead of Iraq?

Re: Shut Up Whining About the Imaginary Recession, You Whiners! (Part 2)

Neocon — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:23:22 -0000

Obama wants to banish corn. I like corn its my favorite vegetable. McCain wants to bring back the corn and do something else.

So there you have it. A vote for Obama is a vote to destroy corn. A vote for McCain is a vote for destroying something else.

I know who Im voting for.