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Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

jeanLorelle — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:48:36 -0000

...a bit like George W&#39s awall.

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jeanLorelle — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:41:58 -0000

What about redemption? I continually marvel at how many Christians today ignore the actual teachings of Jesus. As I recall, you could sin and redeem yourself...The one thing I know about Ted Kennedy is that he was a staunch supporter of the poor and disenfranchised - the core of Jesus&#39 teachings. He upheld this as a goal steadfastly even though he didn&#39t have to...he was able to do so because he was rich enough to fund his own campaigns and guaranteed re-election year after year - enabling him to vote his conscience rather than the will of corporate America. So, ask yourselves, what have you done for the poor? Are you, like most Americans, happy to have your foot in the face of your fellow man, just to get ahead? Our empire is ending because Americans today no longer work towards common goals to better one another..but instead only work toward ends that benefit themselves. No empire can support itself with this philosophy. Farewell to one politician who felt that the whole was more important than the "me,me, me".

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jeanLorelle — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:40:55 -0000

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lutherdavis — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:27:03 -0000

don&#39t forget about JFK, BOBBY, and Schrivers visit to Marilyn Monroe very shortly before her death !!!!

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

jeanLorelle — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:48:36 -0000

...a bit like George W's awall.

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

jeanLorelle — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:40:55 -0000

What about redemption? I continually marvel at how many Christians today ignore the actual teachings of Jesus. As I recall, you could sin and redeem yourself...The one thing I know about Ted Kennedy is that he was a staunch supporter of the poor and disenfranchised - the core of Jesus' teachings. He upheld this as a goal steadfastly even though he didn't have to...he was able to do so because he was rich enough to fund his own campaigns and guaranteed re-election year after year - enabling him to vote his conscience rather than the will of corporate America. So, ask yourselves, what have you done for the poor? Are you, like most Americans, happy to have your foot in the face of your fellow man, just to get ahead? Our empire is ending because Americans today no longer work towards common goals to better one another..but instead only work toward ends that benefit themselves. No empire can support itself with this philosophy. Farewell to one politician who felt that the whole was more important than the "me,me, me".

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lutherdavis — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:27:03 -0000

don't forget about JFK, BOBBY, and Schrivers visit to Marilyn Monroe very shortly before her death !!!!

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ragzamuffin — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:10:24 -0000

One thing of note about JFK and Senator Kennedy is that despite their wealth and despite being raised by a power monger father they were both Democrats and championed the disadvantaged. This is not the same as a yearly donation to a charity but a lifetime of work at least in the Senator&#39s case. Perhaps they both were driven to ameliorate the sins of the father at least in business. As for their treatment of women it&#39s strange that they did somehow avenge the treatment of their sister Rosemary. Or did they and I don&#39t know what it was. Like "Rachel" said about burning in hell..I think that is best left to the divine. San

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skepticgriggsy — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:47:18 -0000

Sen. Kennedy&#39s justified position as a moral leader will forever exhume his role in the Senate. Pres. Obama with V.P. Biden and Sec&#39y. Sebellius will attain the health plan named after him.His self-admitted shame hangs over his legacy. As Dr. Albert Ellis observes in " The Myth of Self-Esteem," most of us are none great heroes or great villains.. Read this book and also Dr. Robert Price&#39s " The Reason- Driven Life," to fathom how to be a better you! The senator was no hater as Ellis would so commend and he followed reason in his politics and sometimes in his personal life. He, on the whole , was a worthy role model. May his detractors practice perspective!

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

ragzamuffin — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:10:24 -0000

One thing of note about JFK and Senator Kennedy is that despite their wealth and despite being raised by a power monger father they were both Democrats and championed the disadvantaged. This is not the same as a yearly donation to a charity but a lifetime of work at least in the Senator's case. Perhaps they both were driven to ameliorate the sins of the father at least in business. As for their treatment of women it's strange that they did somehow avenge the treatment of their sister Rosemary. Or did they and I don't know what it was. Like "Rachel" said about burning in hell..I think that is best left to the divine. San

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

skepticgriggsy — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:47:18 -0000

Sen. Kennedy's justified position as a moral leader will forever exhume his role in the Senate. Pres. Obama with V.P. Biden and Sec'y. Sebellius will attain the health plan named after him. His self-admitted shame hangs over his legacy. As Dr. Albert Ellis observes in " The Myth of Self-Esteem," most of us are not great heroes nor great villains.. Read this book and also Dr. Robert Price's " The Reason- Driven Life," to fathom how to be a better you! The senator was no hater as Ellis would so commend and he followed reason in his politics and sometimes in his personal life. He, on the whole , was a worthy role model. May his detractors practice perspective!

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Rachel_Snyder — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:17:30 -0000

I can understand why many of the people posting on here have such a negative view of the late Senator. Personally, I feel that he did a lot of good in his life, but am not convinced that that "makes up" for the death of a young woman, or if anything ever could. I guess I take the view that he did some things that were better, and at least one thing that was far worse, than anything most of us will ever do, but I can understand why others may not share that view. What I cannot understand is how anyone with an ounce of decency (or for that matter, sanity) can declare definitively that someone had no soul, or that they hope another human being is "burning in hell."

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Rachel_Snyder — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:17:30 -0000

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ragzamuffin — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:59:21 -0000

Rest in Peace Mary Jo and Senator Kennedy, inextricably linked for eternity. You leave behind us mere mortals to judge your tragedy and reassure ourselves that we will continue our lives of exemplary behavior, continued prayers for your souls and activism that will solve this injustice for future generations. San

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jbrown2009 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:33:08 -0000

Good?

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ragzamuffin — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:59:21 -0000

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jbrown2009 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:33:08 -0000

Good?

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mariaycorazon — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:09:18 -0000

I find this whole conversation here very disturbing. I guess many of the people commenting on this stream are qualified to be the judge and jury of other people&#39s transgressions. Not only are some expert in our judicial system and its failings they are also qualified to play God and to condemn others to hell. I think the comments posted here say more about the people making the comments than they do about Senator Kennedy. May he rest in peace and God bless him for a lifetime devoted to the redemption of his human frailties, sins, crimes, and everything else he may have committed.

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fitzy06 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:18:07 -0000

"I did not respect him and was never fooled into thinking he was some kind of grand statesman. He wasn&#39t. I am happy to finally be rid of the far left and poisonous influence of the Kennedy family in national politics. This was one dysfunctional family and simply not worthy of the adulation from the American public. In fact, there are plenty of examples of odious Kennedy&#39s romping across the scene - just Google the family and you&#39ll find all kinds of bad behavior."

I&#39ve quoted the meat and potatoes of what I agree with most in your post. VERY well said sir, and may vigilant Americans now focus their eyes on the likes of the horrid, leftist surrenderist appeasing cowards, with the same effite, elitist arrogance that the afforementioned Kennedy person had: To wit: Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Disgusting disgraces and shit stains on the white briefs of politics and public policy.

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

mariaycorazon — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:09:18 -0000

I find this whole conversation here very disturbing. I guess many of the people commenting on this stream are qualified to be the judge and jury of other people's transgressions. Not only are some expert in our judicial system and its failings they are also qualified to play God and to condemn others to hell. I think the comments posted here say more about the people making the comments than they do about Senator Kennedy. May he rest in peace and God bless him for a lifetime devoted to the redemption of his human frailties, sins, crimes, and everything else he may have committed.

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

fitzy06 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:18:07 -0000

"I did not respect him and was never fooled into thinking he was some kind of grand statesman. He wasn't. I am happy to finally be rid of the far left and poisonous influence of the Kennedy family in national politics. This was one dysfunctional family and simply not worthy of the adulation from the American public. In fact, there are plenty of examples of odious Kennedy's romping across the scene - just Google the family and you'll find all kinds of bad behavior."

I've quoted the meat and potatoes of what I agree with most in your post. VERY well said sir, and may vigilant Americans now focus their eyes on the likes of the horrid, leftist surrenderist appeasing cowards, with the same effite, elitist arrogance that the afforementioned Kennedy person had: To wit: Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Disgusting disgraces and ...of politics and public policy.

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ztownric — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:45:30 -0000

couldn&#39t agree more...bravo!

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ztownric — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:43:44 -0000

I can relate to conflicting reports, and in this case...it appears all the parties involved with the incident are intentionally making it so. It is sad that a young woman in her prime had to lose her life in the ordeal, and no matter what the actual facts are...that will not change. btw...I do have a tendency to be a little heated (and some humor with sarcasm) with my thoughts, so hope no offense was taken...none was meant.

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ztownric — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:22:22 -0000

Makers Mark...fine selection indeed...wish I had been there to enjoy the toast.

Re: Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne

fitzy06 — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:59:59 -0000

Ok, after reflection and cooler headed thinking, I agree....I allowed my political views, which are a complete 180 from Ted&#39s to interfere with my thinking.....plus, I think, a wee nip or two too much of Makers Mark last night......I hereby back off and stand corrected.....

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