The Moderate Voice - Latest Comments in "We Do Not Torture."

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

Rudi — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:20:30 -0000

Back in mid December I noticed the "past contributor" in about the authors. SM said that he just wanted to spend more time at his own blog. But in politics "spending time with family" is a skeptical reason for leaving.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

kritt11 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:37:45 -0000

Bush knew- he just looks and sounds stupid.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

rudi — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:20:30 -0000

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

kritt11 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:37:45 -0000

Bush knew- he just looks and sounds stupid.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

Manchester2 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:22:31 -0000

Shaun is listed as a "past contributor" when you click on the "About TMV&#39s Authors" link. I don&#39t remember him giving his swan song.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

ChrisWWW — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:43:08 -0000

DLS,
Shaun is still blogging at http://kikoshouse.blogspot.com and I suppose that&#39s what makes his disappearance so mysterious...

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

EEllis — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:06:15 -0000

"Bush, who was ultimately responsible, whether he knew it or not, lied."

You must know you are telling an untruth for it to be a lie. By adding the "whether he knew it or not" , which many if not most of the critics of the administration would disagree, you are no longer able to state with factual certainty that Bush lied. I also note the person making that determination did not conclude that any of the tactics by themselves or even in conjunction automatically constitute torture.

Personally I don&#39t have strong feelings about the issue. I do note the scarcity of authorized use of "torture" leading me to believe that even if it works the US doesn&#39t use it enough to consider it even close to vital.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

DLS — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:59:50 -0000

It&#39s no surprise that someone would admit that people were tortured. This is not news.

What&#39s news would be where Shaun Mullen currently is. (On a pilgrimage to Washington, DC, for the Inauguration? To the extent the crowd may be now much less than originally expected, blame the economy, not lack of interest; the interest and the hype remain very strong.) Shaun knows his performers -- if you&#39re out there, Shaun, No More Rich Corinthian Leather (that&#39s a hint for the rest of y&#39all).

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

Manchester2 — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:22:31 -0000

Shaun is listed as a "past contributor" when you click on the "About TMV's Authors" link. I don't remember him giving his swan song.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

ChrisWWW — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:43:08 -0000

DLS,
Shaun is still blogging at http://kikoshouse.blogspot.com and I suppose that's what makes his disappearance so mysterious...

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

EEllis — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:06:15 -0000

"Bush, who was ultimately responsible, whether he knew it or not, lied."

You must know you are telling an untruth for it to be a lie. By adding the "whether he knew it or not" , which many if not most of the critics of the administration would disagree, you are no longer able to state with factual certainty that Bush lied. I also note the person making that determination did not conclude that any of the tactics by themselves or even in conjunction automatically constitute torture.

Personally I don't have strong feelings about the issue. I do note the scarcity of authorized use of "torture" leading me to believe that even if it works the US doesn't use it enough to consider it even close to vital.

Re: "We Do Not Torture."

DLS — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:59:50 -0000

It's no surprise that someone would admit that people were tortured. This is not news.

What's news would be where Shaun Mullen currently is. (On a pilgrimage to Washington, DC, for the Inauguration? To the extent the crowd may be now much less than originally expected, blame the economy, not lack of interest; the interest and the hype remain very strong.) Shaun knows his performers -- if you're out there, Shaun, No More Rich Corinthian Leather (that's a hint for the rest of y'all).