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Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

runasim — Thu, 15 May 2008 23:10:20 -0000

Thank heavens progressives and feminists fight. At least that shows they're still capable of individual thought,

Some others wait for a memo from HQ to find out how to vote, how to act, how to be. They might be more comfortable with robots instead of a human membership.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

AustinRoth — Thu, 15 May 2008 20:20:29 -0000

George -

It isn't like he called her sweetie.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

roro80 — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:44:43 -0000

Um...yes, like pretty much every progressive group in the country, including the entire Dem party, feminists also have disagreement about the Dem candidate. How come it's only the feminists who get told to "chill out" about it? When you say "these groups" have been trying to get "one particular woman" elected, who exactly is "these groups"? The fact is that Hillary Clinton does have a long, long history of being excellent on women's rights. Barack Obama has also been extremely solid in causes close to the feminist heart.

Again, every progressive group in the whole country has concerns and infighting about this primary, and none of the others are relegated to the "sandbox", just us uppity women-folk.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

DLS — Thu, 15 May 2008 16:01:25 -0000

"The feminist sandbox?"

IF YOU'RE NOT WITH US (OBAMA ANTI-WAR CROWD), YOU'RE AGAINST US.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

DLS — Thu, 15 May 2008 15:59:39 -0000

"The feminist sandbox?"

No matter how loyally left-to-far-left they've been, they're expendable and lose all respect among the anti-war crowd now that there's an anti-war placeholder named Obama competing with Clinton and her feminiist support base this year for the Dem nomination. The Obama crowd is not merely pro-Obama but worse than any GOP crowd when it comes to being anti-Clinton so long as Clinton is in Obama's way.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

DLS — Thu, 15 May 2008 15:57:53 -0000

"As idiotic as this spat is, this is what 'feminism' has been like from the day the term was coined"

Of coruse, because it has gone beyond legitimate feminism -- the surprising concept that was made reality forty years ago that women, gasp, are PEOPLE -- beyind that for over forty years into extremist lunatic fringe left-wing politics (including bizarre positions held on abortion, which the lunatic groups idolize with even more craziness than the typical cultist Obama camp followers this year).

Related to that in this campaign season are the lunatic attacks on Clinton because she wasn't blindly bound even before the war ever was considered to the extreme anti-war-and-US-success-at-all-costs far left PC fad of the past several years.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

DLS — Thu, 15 May 2008 15:53:00 -0000

NARAL has aborted support for Clinton in favor of Obama because Obama is the one to keep NARAL's fringey politics more viable. Heh.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

MaryL — Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:46 -0000

And some feminist blogs, like Pandagon, are fine with NARAL's endorsement.

There’s a scent of sour grapes in the air around the Clinton campaign, and from a feminist perspective, I’m boggled. Sure, I understand that it’s disappointing if “electing a female President” was a major priority for you and that’s getting thwarted. But if you support women’s rights, you need to put your support behind the Democratic nominee, even if it’s Obama and it’s likely to be. McCain can’t even support equal pay for women! He’s going to continue the assault on reproductive rights that the Bush administration started. If you support women, have some pity on us in our fertile years living in red states who sorely need a political break in our direction right now, namely a pro-choice Democrat in the White House. Which Obama is, in case there’s a whiff of doubt created by this needlessly contentious primary season.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

Amanda — Thu, 15 May 2008 15:10:24 -0000

Wow! Thanks Shaun :)

Yes George?

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

runasim — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:24:59 -0000

As idiotic as this spat is, this is what 'feminism' has been like from the day the term was coined: a lot of different groups, with different outlooks and different strategies., even different goals.

It's simply too broad a term. Since feminists are also people, it's ridiculous to expect any more agreement among them than among other people groups,
Think about how people behave in groups from political parties to the UN.

Women's groups have political fights just like all people do.
That's all there is to see here..

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

shaun — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:24:41 -0000

Mr. Sorwell:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

GeorgeSorwell — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:18:45 -0000

Yo Amanda?

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

shaun — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:28:44 -0000

Yo Amanda:

'Twas you who inspired me to do this post in the first place.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

Amanda — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:11:25 -0000

And this is how some women earn the moniker "feminazi." Nevermind that Obama has already won the nomination in every way that actually, you know, counts. Nevermind that he has essentially the same exact views as Senator Clinton when it comes to reproductive rights. He has boy parts so clearly he's not worthy to carry a pro-choice banner. Geez, my eyes would fall out if I were rolling them any more.

Re: When Expedience Trumps The Sisterhood

GeorgeSorwell — Thu, 15 May 2008 11:42:47 -0000

The feminist sandbox?